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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:52 pm People get fired in the real world for stuff like this. In the industry, triggering a false alarm is basically a request for termination.
People get arrested in the real world for this stuff.
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I wonder who the two no votes were for the Dems?
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A good reminder. These are almost never new strategies.


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ti-amie wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:17 pm

I wonder who the two no votes were for the Dems?
I couldn't find them in a quick search, but my bet is that Jared Golden (ME-2) is one of them. He's the Democrat from the most Trunp-leaning district and has been voting no on a number of Democratic sponsored bills.
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From where I sit Washington DC as a state doesn't make much sense. It ought to be distributed between Virginia and Maryland so people there get proper representation in congress.
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Suliso wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 9:19 pm From where I sit Washington DC as a state doesn't make much sense. It ought to be distributed between Virginia and Maryland so people there get proper representation in congress.
1) Why doesn't it make sense?

2) Why is your solution for them to get representation in places they don't live?

3) Why doesn't DC as a state make sense but Wyoming as a state does?
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Of course they can do what they want, that's not the point. They would all live in Maryland (or Virginia) if Washington DC was dissolved and added to those states. Washington DC is tiny, then just as well NYC could be a state without all the upstate territories. Wyoming is a huge territory even if people not so many.

I see it as a clear power grab from Democrats and Republicans having done the same 120 years ago in not an argument.
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DC as a state makes way more sense than Wyoming, but in reality what the US should do is get rid of some states. WY should simply be Northern Colorado (and part of it, not a new state). Two Dakotas make no sense, in the same fashion of two Virginias (and two Carolinas, although of course one was confederate, the other Yankee). Why is Idaho there, and what for?
But of course, that will never happen. So might as well give DC its statehood and its two Senators.
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Clearly I don't need to have this conversation with you @suliso. A dismissive reply, bordering on offensive.
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ti-amie wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 5:17 pm

I wonder who the two no votes were for the Dems?
NV stands for "Not Voting". There actually are no "NO" votes by Democrats.
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Washington D.C's current status is written into the Constitution. I suspect that if this does pass the Senate, it will get challenged in the courts and get struck down by the Supreme Court. Then they will have to start over with a Constitutional Amendment, which is where I think they should be starting.
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Why not Puerto Rico, too?
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MJ2004 wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:05 pm Why not Puerto Rico, too?
Because Puerto Ricans aren't sure they want this whereas DC have been trying to get representation for such a long time.
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mmmm8 wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:17 pm
MJ2004 wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:05 pm Why not Puerto Rico, too?
Because Puerto Ricans aren't sure they want this whereas DC have been trying to get representation for such a long time.
Puerto Rico voted for statehood this past November: https://ballotpedia.org/Puerto_Rico_Sta ... dum_(2020). Granted, the margin wasn't great and the turnout was below 50%, but they did vote for it.
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dave g wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 10:15 pm Washington D.C's current status is written into the Constitution. I suspect that if this does pass the Senate, it will get challenged in the courts and get struck down by the Supreme Court. Then they will have to start over with a Constitutional Amendment, which is where I think they should be starting.
Yep, this is why I think Puerto Rico becomes a state first if the filibuster is gutted.
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