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Here is the full quote from Shatner's interview and a link to the article.
I had thought that going into space would be the ultimate catharsis of that connection I had been looking for between all living things—that being up there would be the next beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. In the film “Contact,” when Jodie Foster’s character goes to space and looks out into the heavens, she lets out an astonished whisper, “They should’ve sent a poet.” I had a different experience, because I discovered that the beauty isn’t out there, it’s down here, with all of us. Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound.

It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands: the extinction of animal species, of flora and fauna . . . things that took five billion years to evolve, and suddenly we will never see them again because of the interference of mankind. It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.

I learned later that I was not alone in this feeling. It is called the “Overview Effect” and is not uncommon among astronauts, including Yuri Gagarin, Michael Collins, Sally Ride, and many others. Essentially, when someone travels to space and views Earth from orbit, a sense of the planet’s fragility takes hold in an ineffable, instinctive manner. Author Frank White first coined the term in 1987: “There are no borders or boundaries on our planet except those that we create in our minds or through human behaviors. All the ideas and concepts that divide us when we are on the surface begin to fade from orbit and the moon. The result is a shift in worldview, and in identity.”

It can change the way we look at the planet but also other things like countries, ethnicities, religions; it can prompt an instant reevaluation of our shared harmony and a shift in focus to all the wonderful things we have in common instead of what makes us different. It reinforced tenfold my own view on the power of our beautiful, mysterious collective human entanglement, and eventually, it returned a feeling of hope to my heart. In this insignificance we share, we have one gift that other species perhaps do not: we are aware—not only of our insignificance, but the grandeur around us that makes us insignificant. That allows us perhaps a chance to rededicate ourselves to our planet, to each other, to life and love all around us. If we seize that chance.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/willia ... 235395113/
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This is an interesting site

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ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 12:51 am Here is the full quote from Shatner's interview and a link to the article.
I had thought that going into space would be the ultimate catharsis of that connection I had been looking for between all living things—that being up there would be the next beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. In the film “Contact,” when Jodie Foster’s character goes to space and looks out into the heavens, she lets out an astonished whisper, “They should’ve sent a poet.” I had a different experience, because I discovered that the beauty isn’t out there, it’s down here, with all of us. Leaving that behind made my connection to our tiny planet even more profound.

It was among the strongest feelings of grief I have ever encountered. The contrast between the vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth below filled me with overwhelming sadness. Every day, we are confronted with the knowledge of further destruction of Earth at our hands: the extinction of animal species, of flora and fauna . . . things that took five billion years to evolve, and suddenly we will never see them again because of the interference of mankind. It filled me with dread. My trip to space was supposed to be a celebration; instead, it felt like a funeral.

I learned later that I was not alone in this feeling. It is called the “Overview Effect” and is not uncommon among astronauts, including Yuri Gagarin, Michael Collins, Sally Ride, and many others. Essentially, when someone travels to space and views Earth from orbit, a sense of the planet’s fragility takes hold in an ineffable, instinctive manner. Author Frank White first coined the term in 1987: “There are no borders or boundaries on our planet except those that we create in our minds or through human behaviors. All the ideas and concepts that divide us when we are on the surface begin to fade from orbit and the moon. The result is a shift in worldview, and in identity.”

It can change the way we look at the planet but also other things like countries, ethnicities, religions; it can prompt an instant reevaluation of our shared harmony and a shift in focus to all the wonderful things we have in common instead of what makes us different. It reinforced tenfold my own view on the power of our beautiful, mysterious collective human entanglement, and eventually, it returned a feeling of hope to my heart. In this insignificance we share, we have one gift that other species perhaps do not: we are aware—not only of our insignificance, but the grandeur around us that makes us insignificant. That allows us perhaps a chance to rededicate ourselves to our planet, to each other, to life and love all around us. If we seize that chance.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/willia ... 235395113/
Perspective is everything.

We should send all of Earth's politicians into space.

Permanently.

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How about... we call them octopus and have this interesting factoid available?
Do we have to rename everything?
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ti-amie wrote: Mon Oct 10, 2022 6:51 pm
I count 3 appendages that this creature is 'walking' on - not just 2.
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Because, of course, this will help to stop Oil and Gas.
Eco-activists throw soup on van Gogh's "Sunflowers" in London

Attempting to destroy a WORLD HERITAGE (I find it hard to think of any artist more beloved universally than Van Gogh) will really help the cause.
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ponchi101 wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:05 pm Because, of course, this will help to stop Oil and Gas.
Eco-activists throw soup on van Gogh's "Sunflowers" in London

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The palace is dripping in diamonds, so why bring out the disputed Koh-i-noor?
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The jewel in the last queen consort’s crown was plundered from India. Camilla doesn’t have to wear it

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The crown of Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother (1937), with the Koh-i-noor diamond. Photograph: Tim Graham/Tim Graham Photo Library/Getty Images

On 3 July 1850, Queen Victoria was visited by two members of the East India Company. They wanted to give her something recently prised off Duleep Singh, the boy maharaja of Lahore. “They delivered up to me,” she recorded, “with a short speech, the celebrated Koh-i-noor, the largest diamond in the world.” She wasn’t mad about it: “Unfortunately it is not set ‘à jour’, & badly cut, which spoils the effect.”

The diamond went off to the Great Exhibition, where visitors also regretted the unsparkliness of a stone that had been described when it was carried off as “the historical emblem of conquest in India”. The Illustrated London News said: “The Koh-i-noor is not cut in the best form for exhibiting its purity and lustre, and will therefore disappoint many, if not all of those who so anxiously press forward to see it.”

If the slighted diamond is now getting its due, as a “fabulous” centrepiece on one of the royal crowns, “one of the grandest and most valuable gemstones in the world”, according to Professor Robert Tombs, then thanks are due in particular to the royal traditionalists currently alerting the public to the potential offensiveness of its appearance at Charles’s coronation. They seem to have been the first – albeit from a protective perspective – to recognise that a stone that might have looked acceptable on the Queen Mother’s head in the Britain of 1937 would look utterly indefensible on Camilla’s, next May. Its return has been sought, after all, since India’s independence; in a climate now more friendly towards cultural restitution, the exhibition of a jewel described by its curators (at the Tower of London) as a “symbol of conquest” could easily be mistaken for crass provocation.

While a claimed threat to its appearance from a museum-purging “motley crew of woke obsessives” appears, at this point, to be a routine, imaginary stage in an attempted culture war, it has certainly spared the “woke mob” (Professor Tombs again) the trouble of alerting the public to the dismal details of the Koh-i-noor’s acquisition. Had it not been for recent extravagant claims for the stone’s contribution to British life, many people could easily have imagined that it was decently obtained, rather than extracted from a coerced child whom the East India Company had separated from his mother.

In fact, it was thanks to Tombs’s romantic account of the young Singh’s determination to personally hand the diamond to Queen Victoria that I learned that it was presented to her, as above, by the East India Company. It was four years before the boy came to England and informally gave her the (re-cut and smaller) stone after being asked if he would like to see it again. Lady Login, an appointed guardian, recorded: “It was to me one of the most excruciatingly uncomfortable quarters-of-an-hour that I ever passed! … seeing him stand there turning and turning the stone about in his hands, as if unable to part with it again, now he had it once more in his possession!”

Camilla, since she’d be wearing it, might want to bear in mind that Singh later called Victoria “Mrs Fagin”, after Dickens’s receiver of stolen goods. The more you discover, prompted by Tombs, about the status of the Koh-i-noor, the more it makes the Parthenon removals look almost legit – and they’d been identified as vandalism by 1811.

Already, in what must be the easiest victory in the history of woke-mobbery, the palace is said to be considering other crowns: disappointing for Charles, who reportedly minds about his consort wearing Singh’s surrendered jewel. But massive old crowns, as testified in every photograph, are hard enough to pull off at the best of times; a faintly less preposterous, pillage-free version could be the ideal way to bring about that oxymoron he is also said to want, a modern coronation. Along with other diadems, many hardly worn, the couple have the option of putting something less embarrassing where the Koh-i-noor now sits, in a crown made for the Queen Mother in 1937.

As with the Queen’s funeral, at which the gun carriage-dragging ritual turned out to have originated in 1901, recent attempts to kindle Koh-i-noor hostilities have underlined the incredible youthfulness of many cherished royal traditions. The traditional royal grandchild vigil (shorter than many a wait for the 43 to Crouch End) seems to date, for instance, all the way back to the Queen Mother’s funeral in 2002.

The Koh-i-noor’s relatively hallowed role in three 20th-century coronations allows its possible absence from the next one – for no better reason than its association with some of the most shaming episodes in British history – to be portrayed as an unconscionable crime against custom, of which only those who hate their country and wish to empty every single one of its museums would be capable.

What next, after “rushing down a slippery slope”, as Koh-i-noor loyalists portray Camilla forced to wear a different crown? Will successful exclusion of this diamond prompt the woke mob to demand the removal of the Cullinan diamond from the sceptre to which it was attached as anciently as 1910? Actually, since no black South Africans were involved in that donation it doesn’t seem like a terrible idea to put the sceptre back to how it was when commissioned for the restoration, its predecessor having been melted down in 1649. Though that might mean forfeiting another pair of clunking “chips” from the original Cullinan stone, which the Queen liked to wear as a brooch.

An enhanced appreciation of the royals’ Smaug-like treasure trove is a further benefit of this attempted cultural skirmish, though not necessarily for champions of the Koh-i-noor. Out of all the available bling, what makes the most obviously objectionable the perfect coronation choice?


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So this is the latest thing I guess on Tik Tok. I hate posting their clips here but since it's filtered through the Twitter servers it's maybe not so bad?

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Haha, she did about 8 things, including going to get celery juice AND a latte, and then "made myself some breakfast." I thought it was nighttime by then. It was only like 9 am. I lost interest before lunchtime. BTW, Tommy Paul is dating a popular influencer, Paige Lorenzo. She appears to leave the house for more than Pilates and celery juice.

ti-amie wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:49 pm So this is the latest thing I guess on Tik Tok. I hate posting their clips here but since it's filtered through the Twitter servers it's maybe not so bad?

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So... get a life is too much of cliche?
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Yesterday, I heard that a survey done revealed that 'social media influencer' was the 4th most popular aspiration among elementary (primary) school children.
The future looks very bleak.

20 years ago, after the internet had infiltrated people's homes, I saw that children need to be protected from the harmful effects of this unregulated, anything goes internet thing... but at a time when children need to be most protected from it, they are not being protected because their parents are being completely seduced by the internet - the promise of an open 'stage', the (much more than) '15 minutes of fame', etc.
I saw that parents were too busy trying to get attention on the internet, and were ignoring the very real fact that their children need to be protected from the huge amount of garbage that is so easily accessible to everyone on the internet.
Since then, the situation has only gotten worse, of course.

If I've learned anything in my life, it's that human beings will abuse absolutely everything they lay their hands on - and because of this, potential positives have been turned into negatives. It happened with television, which has the wonderful potential to educate, but has been turned into the 'idiot box'... and, predictably, it's happened with the internet, which also has the wonderful potential to educate, but has instead become a haven for pornography, child pornography, crime, misinformation, and, of course, massive insecurity through millions upon millions of people desperately seeking superficial attention. The negatives of the internet far outweigh the negatives of television because the internet reaches much more people much more rapidly - children are walking around with the internet - and all of its ills - in their pockets.

To see that young children are aspiring to be 'social media influencers' is not surprising today. But it is most definitely tragic.
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Piet Mondrian artwork displayed upside down for 75 years https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63423811

Proving the point I always make about contemporary art. If I can copy it, or if a 4 year can make it (unless that 4 year old is Picasso), it ain’t art.
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