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Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:16 pm
by ponchi101
I, on the other hand, did not know they got so much they ahd to give it away.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 4:37 pm
by skatingfan
I think this happened a while ago, but this thread has really moved away from it's intended purpose. :lol:

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:57 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote:https://www.tennis.com/news/articles/wh ... ill-stores
Lovely article by @meganfernandez
I have often wondered..but the range of solutions is interesting
Thanks! So I wasn’t the only one who was curious! Another journalist actually gave me (expletive) for this idea, thinking it was dull. But I have always wanted to know.

I have to add some info that came in later from Nicole Melichar-Martinez. She says Slams have had donation boxes in the past I’ve only been able to confirm that the U.S. Open has had shoe drops. That’s it. Takes a lot of time to track down those details and it’s infeasible to find out from other Slams.

Thanks for reading and sharing!


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Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:58 pm
by meganfernandez
skatingfan wrote:I think this happened a while ago, but this thread has really moved away from it's intended purpose. :lol:
Good, because I always hated the original intention. ;)

We need a thread for not-terrible journalism. Or does that go in Tennis Random, Random.


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Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:21 pm
by ponchi101
I hated the fact that the original intention was there because there were so many suchc articles. Articles about Serena with pictures of Venus, or about a given player with a picture of another, improper stats, poorly researched and such.
I know you are a journalist but your articles are clearly well researched and written. But when, for example, somebody writes an article and quotes "Jimmy CONNERS", it made my head hurt.
And remember. This is not a dictatorship. You can post articles in any topic; even if it is a bit confusing at times.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:33 pm
by ponchi101
Here's an example.
This is the article's headline:
Article.jpg
Sounds like Rafa called somebody stupid.

This is the actual statement, from within the same article:
Meanwhile, Nadal was irked by Tsitsipas ahead of his second-round match against De Minaur in Barcelona after the Greek star said he wouldn’t be surprised to see the ‘King of Clay’ reach the final of the ATP 500 event.

‘It’s stupid, let’s face it, he knows that’s not the case,’ Nadal said, according to Spanish outlet Punto de Break.

‘I suppose there is a lot of respect for what I have [done] in this tournament, but everyone knows that I am no longer a favourite to aspire to win a tournament.

Neither was Nadal irked, nor was he calling anybody stupid.
But I guess the headline draws more clicks than "Nadal calls Tsitsipas opinion stupid".

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:32 am
by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:58 pm
skatingfan wrote:I think this happened a while ago, but this thread has really moved away from it's intended purpose. :lol:
Good, because I always hated the original intention. ;)

We need a thread for not-terrible journalism. Or does that go in Tennis Random, Random.


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This is your fault ! If you didn't write so many good articles, we could have continued the old way!

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:32 am
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:58 pm
skatingfan wrote:I think this happened a while ago, but this thread has really moved away from it's intended purpose. :lol:
Good, because I always hated the original intention. ;)

We need a thread for not-terrible journalism. Or does that go in Tennis Random, Random.


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This is your fault ! If you didn't write so many good articles, we could have continued the old way!
Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:48 am
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 8:33 pm Here's an example.
This is the article's headline:
Article.jpg

Sounds like Rafa called somebody stupid.

This is the actual statement, from within the same article:
Meanwhile, Nadal was irked by Tsitsipas ahead of his second-round match against De Minaur in Barcelona after the Greek star said he wouldn’t be surprised to see the ‘King of Clay’ reach the final of the ATP 500 event.

‘It’s stupid, let’s face it, he knows that’s not the case,’ Nadal said, according to Spanish outlet Punto de Break.

‘I suppose there is a lot of respect for what I have [done] in this tournament, but everyone knows that I am no longer a favourite to aspire to win a tournament.

Neither was Nadal irked, nor was he calling anybody stupid.
But I guess the headline draws more clicks than "Nadal calls Tsitsipas opinion stupid".
You are spot-on but that's actually a much more sophisticated criticism than what this thread usually traffics in. :) That's more substance editing than a silly mistake or a bot pulling the wrong photo because the metadata was wrong.

It is very clickbaity. I don't love "crashes out," either. "Nadal out of Barcelona Open, calls Tsitsipas opinion 'stupid'" would have been much better.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 am
by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:32 am
meganfernandez wrote: Wed Apr 17, 2024 7:58 pm
Good, because I always hated the original intention. ;)

We need a thread for not-terrible journalism. Or does that go in Tennis Random, Random.


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This is your fault ! If you didn't write so many good articles, we could have continued the old way!
Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.
Ha! Some of your Tennis.com colleagues are pretty uninformed too..let us not name them .

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:34 pm
by ponchi101
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am ...

Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.
But then you are on our side! ;)

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:15 pm
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 am
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 12:32 am

This is your fault ! If you didn't write so many good articles, we could have continued the old way!
Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.
Ha! Some of your Tennis.com colleagues are pretty uninformed too..let us not name them .
Let's do, actually! I won't rat you out. :) I doubt anyone is uninformed, but I'm curious what gives off that impression.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:16 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 2:34 pm
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am ...

Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.
But then you are on our side! ;)
Sometimes, yes. :) There are sloppy mistakes. It's just that I make them, too. We all make mistakes in our jobs.

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:24 am
by ashkor87
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:15 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 am
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:43 am

Burying this thread has been my primary career motivation. :)

Sorry to ruin the party. Back to trashing sloppy Yahoo Sports editors.
Ha! Some of your Tennis.com colleagues are pretty uninformed too..let us not name them .
Let's do, actually! I won't rat you out. :) I doubt anyone is uninformed, but I'm curious what gives off that impression.
I certainly think Steve Tignor doesn't understand tennis much..makes some really crazy predictions, which are always wrong. Just to grab the headline perhaps

Re: Great Tennis Journalism 2.0

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:07 am
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:24 am
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:15 pm
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:35 am

Ha! Some of your Tennis.com colleagues are pretty uninformed too..let us not name them .
Let's do, actually! I won't rat you out. :) I doubt anyone is uninformed, but I'm curious what gives off that impression.
I certainly think Steve Tignor doesn't understand tennis much..makes some really crazy predictions, which are always wrong. Just to grab the headline perhaps
I don't know him personally but I believe he knows tennis very well. He's just working off different information than you are. And he doesn't strike me as provocative. I think he has integrity. Certainly has a good reputation among journalists I admire.