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ti-amie wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:38 pm

Now that one I did know. Some disturbing ownerships in soccer for sure.


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JazzNU wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:45 pm I'm shocked by this one if no one else is.


Equally shocked, but even more so by Kazakhstan's reply. Especially the bluntness about Kazakhstan being Russia's #1 target.
About Chelsea: so, go bankrupt. You sold yourself to Russia, there are consequences.
Next: How about the Brooklyn Nets?
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ti-amie wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:47 pm
I've called him an asshole many times over the years including last month so it would be disingenuous to pretend I like him, but this is very noble and I hope he's able to help his country and remain safe while doing it.
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ponchi101 wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:54 pm

Equally shocked, but even more so by Kazakhstan's reply. Especially the bluntness about Kazakhstan being Russia's #1 target.
About Chelsea: so, go bankrupt. You sold yourself to Russia, there are consequences.
Next: How about the Brooklyn Nets?
If I'm understanding this, you're saying how about the Brooklyn Nets because of ownership? If so, there's nothing to sell. Tsai owns the Nets, he's one of the Alibaba billionaires. The Russian billionaire sold his remaining stake in the team a few years ago to Tsai, after previously selling a minority stake to him a few years prior.
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JazzNU wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 8:22 pm ...]

If I'm understanding this, you're saying how about the Brooklyn Nets because of ownership? If so, there's nothing to sell. Tsai owns the Nets, he's one of the Alibaba billionaires. The Russian billionaire sold his remaining stake in the team a few years ago to Tsai, after previously selling a minority stake to him a few years prior.
I stand corrected, and thanks for updating me.
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JazzNU wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:45 pm I'm shocked by this one if no one else is.


Maybe he remembers stories of 1956
It seems like time is going backwards towards 1984 . . . :freaking:
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A deliberate ploy by Russia to be able to point to deaths of innocent of Russian soldiers in the early days in the hands of Nazi Ukraine?
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This documentary from the CBC's Fifth Estate looks at how Putin came to power in Russia.

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MJ2004 wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:57 am A deliberate ploy by Russia to be able to point to deaths of innocent of Russian soldiers in the early days in the hands of Nazi Ukraine?
Spot on.
With them now being kicked out of SWIFT, things change. Now the economic sanctions may work. May.
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At this point, I'm the lone optimistic one in the poll above. I do think that Russia will retreat - but not only due to the economic sanctions. I think a greater motivation for their retreat will be the realization that 90% of the world is strongly condemning the invasion - along with seemingly the large majority of the Russian population itself.
You can't win when the odds are stacked against you to that degree - and I think even the Russian government are capable of realizing this.
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Deuce wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 4:16 am At this point, I'm the lone optimistic one in the poll above.
I think part of the problem in the poll was the wording. Since the statement was "The economic sanctions will work" I had to vote No. Because I don't think Putin cared about the initial sanctions. But I didn't necessarily agree that "No. Russia will annex Ukraine completely." Not to mention the situation changes with more sanctions.
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