by ti-amie DAY 9: TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6
COMPLETE
ARTHUR ASHE STADIUM 12:00 PM
MEN'S SINGLES QF
ITA M. Berrettini [13] vs NOR C. Ruud [5]
WOMEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
TUN O. Jabeur [5] vs AUS A. Tomljanovic
7:00 PM
WOMEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
USA C. Gauff [12] vs FRA C. Garcia [17]
MEN'S SINGLES QF
Upcoming
AUS N. Kyrgios [23] vs K. Khachanov [27]
LOUIS ARMSTRONG STADIUM 11A
MEN'S DOUBLES QF
Upcoming
Louis Armstrong Stadium
USA R. Ram [1]/GBR J. Salisbury [1] vs MON H. Nys/POL J. Zielinski
MEN'S DOUBLES QF
BRA M. Demoliner/POR J. Sousa vs NED W. Koolhof [2]/GBR N. Skupski [2]
WOMEN'S DOUBLES QF
Upcoming
BEL K. Flipkens/ESP S. Sorribes Tormo vs USA N. Melichar-Martinez [10]/AUS E. Perez [10]
MEN'S DOUBLES QF
Upcoming
CRO N. Mektic [6]/CRO M. Pavic [6] vs ESA M. Arevalo [3]/NED J. Rojer [3]
GRANDSTAND 11:00 AM
WOMEN'S DOUBLES QF
CZE B. Krejcikova [3]/CZE K. Siniakova [3]
CAN G. Dabrowski [5]/MEX G. Olmos [5]
MIXED DOUBLES QF
Upcoming
USA C. McNally/USA W. Blumberg vs LAT J. Ostapenko/ESP D. Vega Hernandez
MIXED DOUBLES QF
Upcoming
AUS S. Sanders [4]/AUS J. Peers [4] vs CAN L. Fernandez/USA J. Sock
MEN'S DOUBLES QF
Not before 3:00 PM
COL J. Cabal [13]/COL R. Farah [13] vs GBR L. Glasspool [11]/FIN H. Heliovaara [11]
COURT 17 11:00 AM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
USA C. Ngounoue vs USA T. Evans
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
Not before 12:00 PM
GBR R. Stoiber vs USA L. Hovde [3]
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
SVK R. Jamrichova/SVK N. Vargova vs USA T. Evans/USA K. Quevedo
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
USA L. Hovde [3]/AUS T. Preston [3] vs UKR A. Lopata/USA M. Slama
COURT 5 11:00 AM
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
POL M. Pawelski [10] vs USA A. Michelsen
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 1:30 PM
USA L. Boika/Y. Demin vs USA K. Kang/USA A. Michelsen
COURT 10 11:00 AM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
Upcoming
POL W. Ewald vs HUN L. Udvardy [11]
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 1:30 PM
ARG L. Moyano/PER L. Perez Alarcon vs BEL S. Costoulas/[2] HUN L. Udvardy [2]
COURT 13 12:00 PM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
D. Shnaider [7] vs BEL A. Van Impe
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 1:00 PM
USA I. Jovic/USA S. Lam vs M. Andreeva [4]/PHI A. Eala [4]
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
SUI C. Naef [8]/BEL A. Van Impe [8] vs A. Gureva/JPN H. Kinoshita
COURT 4 11:00 AM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
CAN M. Kupres vs USA A. Anazagasty-Pursoo
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
Not before 12:30 PM
SVK P. Privara vs NAM C. Van Schalkwyk
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
MAR M. El Allami/GBR E. McDonald vs CAN K. Cross [6]/CAN V. Mboko [6]
COURT 6 11:00 AM
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
ARG J. La Serna vs FRA A. Gea
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
Not before 12:30 PM
JPN R. Sakamoto vs KOR G. Campana Lee [13]
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
ARG J. La Serna/ARG L. Midon vs BEL G. Bailly [5]/BEL A. Blockx [5]
COURT 7 11:00 AM
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
USA N. Basavareddy [4] vs BEL A. Blockx
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
Not before 12:00 PM
FRA S. Iliev vs CZE L. Havlickova [2]
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
USA O. Baris [8]/USA N. Basavareddy [8] vs PER G. Ballotta/USA J. Braswell
COURT 8 11:00 AM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
DEN J. Svendsen [13] vs CAN K. Cross
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 1:30 PM
NED R. Nijkamp/KEN A. Okutoyi vs USA Q. Lopez [5]/DEN J. Svendsen [5]
COURT 9 12:00 PM
JUNIOR GIRLS' SINGLES R2
GER E. Seidel vs E. Khayrutdinova
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 1:30 PM
FRA A. Gea/POL B. Zgola vs USA D. Blanch/USA S. Brockett
COURT 11 11:00 AM
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
PAR D. Vallejo [1] vs FRA P. Inchauspe
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
Not before 12:00 PM
CZE H. Barton vs LTU E. Butvilas [8]
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
PAR D. Vallejo [6]/PAR M. Vergara del Puerto [6] vs THA T. Nirundorn/USA M. Zheng
COURT 12 11:00 AM
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
USA S. Daryabeigi/USA J. Sarr vs USA N. Godsick [7]/CAN J. Weekes [7]
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
SUI K. Feldbausch/POL O. Pieczkowski vs FRA P. Barbier Gazeu/BEL A. Basile
JUNIOR GIRLS' DOUBLES R1
Upcoming
USA K. Hui/USA E. Yu vs POL W. Ewald/DEN R. Munk Mortensen
COURT 14 12:00 PM
JUNIOR BOYS' SINGLES R2
GBR P. Brady vs ESP M. Landaluce [5]
JUNIOR BOYS' DOUBLES R1
Not before 2:30 PM
GBR P. Brady/GBR W. Jansen vs TUR T. Tokac/AUS E. Winter
by Suliso Doesn't look promising for Berrettini...17% (!!!) 2nd serve win rate early in the 2nd set.
by patrick This match will be over before 2 PM at this pace. Ruud is playing lights out and Berrettini been awful therefore, 6-1,4-1 with Ruud to serve
by Suliso I remember reading somewhere that Ruud said last week that he's going after the #1 ranking. It really seems like he is...
by ponchi101 Does he have many points to defend this fall? Even if he does not get the #1, Rafa will play sparsely, and Daniil does have a lot of points to defend.
Sure, it would spark the inevitable "#1 with no Slams" critique, but that would be expected.
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Suliso ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:16 pm
Does he have many points to defend this fall? Even if he does not get the #1, Rafa will play sparsely, and Daniil does have a lot of points to defend.
Sure, it would spark the inevitable "#1 with no Slams" critique, but that would be expected.
First of all Alcaraz is also in the running for #1 and second Ruud only gets there with a final as long as Alcaraz is not his opponent.
by Suliso Plus of course he hasn't yet won today either.
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meganfernandez Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:18 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:16 pm
Does he have many points to defend this fall? Even if he does not get the #1, Rafa will play sparsely, and Daniil does have a lot of points to defend.
Sure, it would spark the inevitable "#1 with no Slams" critique, but that would be expected.
First of all Alcaraz is also in the running for #1 and second Ruud only gets there with a final as long as Alcaraz is not his opponent.
Imagine Ruud being #1 without winning a Slam. Thanks, Wimbledon. Weakest #1 in decades on the men's side. Who was the last Slamless ATP #1?
by ponchi101 Rios. But he had reached the Aussie open a few weeks before that.
Of course, Ruud reached the RG final a little while ago.
And he is the exception. The other major player to reach #1 with no slams ever was Lendl, and he was roasted. What people did not realize was that the rankings were telling us what would happen. Lendl then became a very solid #1, as we all know.
by Suliso How about Alcaraz being #1 without a Slam title? That is also possible.
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ponchi101 Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:32 pm
How about Alcaraz being #1 without a Slam title? That is also possible.
Is it? ESPN was talking about it, and showed a graph that Ruud or Alcaraz can only be #1 if they win the title. Any other result and it will be Nadal.
by Suliso What is the difference in points between F and SF?
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meganfernandez Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:42 pm
What is the difference in points between F and SF?
Finalist 1200
Semfinalist 720
480
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:32 pm
How about Alcaraz being #1 without a Slam title? That is also possible.
This would be more accepted because he's expected to be #1 at some point, won a couple 1000s this year, and is seen as a worthy heir to Nadal and Djokovic. All of Ruud's titles are 250s.
by Suliso Ruud could also win Slams. Why not? He's only 23 and already in the top 5.
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meganfernandez Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:52 pm
Ruud could also win Slams. Why not? He's only 23 and already in the top 5.
Sure he could and might get a couple, but Alcaraz is already annoited. He has more hype and more potential, and better results so far - higher ranking, bigger titles. Hence my feeling that he'd be accepted as a Slamless #1 more readily than Ruud would.
by ponchi101 I say the next few RG's will see a combination of Ruud/Alcaraz winning, reaching finals ar being very much in the mix. And Ruud has a very good chance of winning it.
So sure, why not?
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nelslus I mean, blah-blah-blah-blah with these terrible tours ranking systems. I mean, unless Alcaraz or Ruud win the US Open and pretty much everything after the Open- Rafa has to be considered as the #1 for the year. Two Slam victories, and a Wimbledon SF....as sick as it makes me to say this (
)*- I'm pretty well set that Rafa is the #1 for this year.
*WHERE is that TAT vomit emoji when I need one?
by nelslus Also a distinct possibility that Ruud doesn't maintain this very high current standard with his career.
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nelslus ....I would BTW love living in a world where Zverev, Tsitsipas and The Other Deplorables never win a Slam title. Bad enough that Zverev has a Gold medal. Otherwise- let these mugs have the careers of Berdych, Tsonga, Gasquet, etc., etc.
by ponchi101 The unofficial #1. Sure. Lendl was #1 in 89, by rankings. Everybody gave it to Becker, with his W and USO wins.
Bets year is Rafa's. The rest is up for debate.
by Suliso Nadal will get his player of the year trophy. 50/50 whether he stays #1 as well. More likely not if he doesn't play after USO.
by Woody Does anybody know when was the last time the men's draw had no slam winners playing in the QFs?
by nelslus OHHHHH, Mateo, you temptress. You had some set points on return, served for the third set....and, back to suckage. Back to doubles for me very soon, I suspect.
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nelslus Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:25 pm
Nadal will get his player of the year trophy. 50/50 whether he stays #1 as well. More likely not if he doesn't play after USO.
Oh, I think it's highly likely that Rafa's computer #1 ranking is going away, regardless. I honestly think it would be foolish for him to play again this year. Heal up for the next year.
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Woody Woody wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:27 pm
Does anybody know when was the last time the men's draw had no slam winners playing in the QFs?
Never mind, I have a short memory. Ok, but before the 2020 USO which was the crazy Covid year...?
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nelslus Woody wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:27 pm
Does anybody know when was the last time the men's draw had no slam winners playing in the QFs?
I know a fair amount of trivial tennis history- but, I don't have a clue.
by ti-amie Matteo woke up in time to force a third set TB but he's already down 1-3...
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Suliso ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:45 pm
Matteo woke up in time to force a third set TB but he's already down 1-3...
Did you miss that he was a break up most of this set?
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ti-amie Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:47 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:45 pm
Matteo woke up in time to force a third set TB but he's already down 1-3...
Did you miss that he was a break up most of this set?
No and yet here we are...
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:47 pm
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:47 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:45 pm
Matteo woke up in time to force a third set TB but he's already down 1-3...
Did you miss that he was a break up most of this set?
No and yet here we are...
AND he had two set points with Ruud serving.
It WAS decently interesting to see how Ruud was able to bully Matteo today. The difference in foot-speed and movement was huge. Hope Matteo can get back to his best level of play soon.
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mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm
The unofficial #1. Sure. Lendl was #1 in 89, by rankings. Everybody gave it to Becker, with his W and USO wins.
Bets year is Rafa's. The rest is up for debate.
I think that was the reference to 1983 rather than 1989. Lendl's first Slam came at 84 RG, but he first took #1 spot in March of 83.
by Suliso Jabeur-Tomljanovic is not bad, but somehow difficult to get excited about it.
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ponchi101 mick1303 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:20 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm
The unofficial #1. Sure. Lendl was #1 in 89, by rankings. Everybody gave it to Becker, with his W and USO wins.
Bets year is Rafa's. The rest is up for debate.
I think that was the reference to 1983 rather than 1989. Lendl's first Slam came at 84 RG, but he first took #1 spot in March of 83.
No. This time I was talking along the lines of Rafa being #1 for the year, regardless of the rankings. In 1989, Lendl finished the year ranked #1 in the official rankings. Of course he had been #1 for a long time before that. But, in 89, Becker won the W/USO double, beating Lendl in the USO final. So, despite of the rankings, everybody agreed that Becker was the #1 for the year.
Remember that Becker was never a Year-End #1.
That was the comparison I was making. Of course, your figures about Lendl becoming #1 first in 1983 is totally correct.
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ponchi101 Woody wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:32 pm
Woody wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:27 pm
Does anybody know when was the last time the men's draw had no slam winners playing in the QFs?
Never mind, I have a short memory. Ok, but before the 2020 USO which was the crazy Covid year...?
I looked back into the 70's and I think the first time was indeed 2020.
by Suliso There are very few active Slam winners on the tour. Only five. One wasn't playing, one is no longer at that level and one more was a bit lucky to get his. Thus just two real upsets is all it took.
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meganfernandez Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:27 pm
There are very few active Slam winners on the tour. Only five. One wasn't playing, one is no longer at that level and one more was a bit lucky to get his. Thus just two real upsets is all it took.
There are 8 active Slam winners on tour (active meaning they haven't retired, even if they haven't played in a while - Federer, mainly). Big 4, Stan, Cilic, Medvedev and Thiem. If you mean in this year's Open, there were 6.
by Suliso Yes, but no reason to take Stan, Thiem or Murray chances seriously anymore. Realistically in this tournament only three strong Slam winners (being generous to Cilic here).
by ti-amie Ons 6-4, 7-6(4) over Ajla. Ajla has nothing to be ashamed of since a lot of people thought she'd crash and burn her next match after defeating Serena.
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meganfernandez ti-amie wrote:Ons 6-4, 7-6(4) over Ajla. Ajla has nothing to be ashamed of since a lot of people thought she'd crash and burn her next match after defeating Serena.
Agree. She had a great tournament. But I thought this was a winnable match for her. Oh well.
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meganfernandez Suliso wrote:Yes, but no reason to take Stan, Thiem or Murray chances seriously anymore. Realistically in this tournament only three strong Slam winners (being generous to Cilic here).
For sure. Thought you meant raw numbers.
by nelslus I think it is QUITE too soon to discount Thiem getting his career, and, yes, even his Slams career back in shape. (*Albeit, LOL, Suliso is probably right.)
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meganfernandez nelslus wrote:I think it is QUITE too soon to discount Thiem getting his career, and, yes, even his Slams career back in shape. (*Albeit, LOL, Suliso is probably right.)
I think Thiem could come all the way back. I was talking about short term.
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nelslus meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:11 pm
nelslus wrote:I think it is QUITE too soon to discount Thiem getting his career, and, yes, even his Slams career back in shape. (*Albeit, LOL, Suliso is probably right.)
I think Thiem could come all the way back. I was talking about short term.
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To be clear, 'Twas Suliso's Thiem Take I was disputing.
by meganfernandez Really hope these two doubles players come in a lot. Caro's coming forward so far.
by meganfernandez Guess Caro didn't peak too soon. I think she'll make the final.
by Owendonovan Caro seemed much more into this moment than Coco. Her play reflected that.
by jazzyg I wrote before the tournament Garcia would win it easily if she kept her level. That is the part we won't know until she does it, but I don't understand how anyone could watch her play and doubt she is playing at least two levels above anyone else on hard courts.
The numbers shows it, but more importantly, the eye test shows it.
I give Jabeur the only non-choke chance of beating her because her eclectic game could throw Garcia out of rhythm, but Garcia will hit a lot more service winners against her than she did against Gauff because of the difference in reach. I don't give any of the four players on the other side of the draw any shot without a serious come-down by Garcia.
by jazzyg If the men's final is Kyrgios-Alcaraz, it will be a beatdown in Kyrgios' favor. Alcaraz's big weakness is his return of serve and he also goes through patches where he donates games. He would not be able to make up for those donations against Kyrgios.
by ti-amie I would love for Alcaraz to win but I picked Kyrgios.
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meganfernandez Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:05 am
Caro seemed much more into this moment than Coco. Her play reflected that.
Experience. Maturity. Caro has 10 years on her.
by Owendonovan Dude getting his hair cut 3 rows back from the court was special.
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meganfernandez Owendonovan wrote:Dude getting his hair cut 3 rows back from the court was special.
What? Srsly? Also friends texting me that Nick might not finish. I’m not watching. Rafa would play in that leg til it falls off if he had a golden chance to win a Slam. Numb it up and keep going, Nick.
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ponchi101 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:21 am
Owendonovan wrote:Dude getting his hair cut 3 rows back from the court was special.
What? Srsly? Also friends texting me that Nick might not finish. I’m not watching. Rafa would play in that leg til it falls off if he had a golden chance to win a Slam. Numb it up and keep going, Nick.
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Can't think of two players more different than Kyrgios and Nadal. Maybe Ferrer and Kyrgios, as David had "limited" talent.
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Owendonovan meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:21 am
Owendonovan wrote:Dude getting his hair cut 3 rows back from the court was special.
What? Srsly? Also friends texting me that Nick might not finish. I’m not watching. Rafa would play in that leg til it falls off if he had a golden chance to win a Slam. Numb it up and keep going, Nick.
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Yes, dude had clippers on his buddy's head.
by Deuce It gets interesting now...
Kyrgios must win 2 more sets to win the match, while Khatchnov need win only 1...
Has Kyrgios matured enough to do what it takes and make the effort to dig himself out of this hole? Or will he decide at one point that it's not worth the effort, as he's decided so many times?
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Deuce meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:27 pm
Imagine Ruud being #1 without winning a Slam. Thanks, Wimbledon. Weakest #1 in decades on the men's side. Who was the last Slamless ATP #1?
^ I don't know why you're always so critical of Ruud - what did he ever do to you?
Just because a player hasn't yet won a Major certainly doesn't mean he is 'weak'. If a player reaches #1, it is deserved - period. It is because he/she is strong enough to merit that position.
Winning Majors gets all the publicity and spotlight and glamour... but tennis is about much more than just the 8 weeks that the Majors are played.
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:54 pm
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:52 pm
Ruud could also win Slams. Why not? He's only 23 and already in the top 5.
Sure he could and might get a couple, but Alcaraz is already annoited. He has more hype and more potential, and better results so far - higher ranking, bigger titles. Hence my feeling that he'd be accepted as a Slamless #1 more readily than Ruud would.
^ 'Potential' and $5 will get you a plate of fries and a coffee...
In practical terms, 'potential' means absolutely nothing.
Suliso wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 5:32 pm
How about Alcaraz being #1 without a Slam title? That is also possible.
^ Yes - and it would be more 'accepted' by some because he is a flashier player.
But, again, flashy and spectacular doesn't mean better overall - although many people are fooled into thinking that way.
It's kind of like how a bright, glossy, shiny red car 'looks' faster than a dull, matte, scratched up green car... But it's the
performance that counts, not the looks.
by texasniteowl well. I am disappointed. I was rooting for Kyrgios. I mean good for Khachanov though. But I was rooting for Nick.
by Suliso So much for Kyrgios the unbeatable. Alcaraz now the favorite, but only by a fraction.
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nelslus jazzyg wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:16 am
If the men's final is Kyrgios-Alcaraz, it will be a beatdown in Kyrgios' favor. Alcaraz's big weakness is his return of serve and he also goes through patches where he donates games. He would not be able to make up for those donations against Kyrgios.
WELL, guess this is no longer a concern for (19 year old) Alcaraz.
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nelslus Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:03 am
So much for Kyrgios the unbeatable. Alcaraz now the favorite, but only by a fraction.
,,,,The fraction now thanks you.
by Deuce At least Nick hung in until the end - that's progress/evolution...
It was even good to see him smashing his racquets after the handshake - it shows that this loss actually meant something to him...
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nelslus texasniteowl wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:01 am
well. I am disappointed. I was rooting for Kyrgios. I mean good for Khachanov though. But I was rooting for Nick.
Putting aside for the moment my prior mental health commentary....IMO, at least in part, Nick lost this due to hubris (yet another apprentice of the Monfils LOOK AT ME I AM SO TALENTED!!!!! university)- incredibly cutie-patootie shots, especially during the 3rd and 5th sets resulting in breaks- when simple put-away shots would have sufficed. He coulda shoulda won this match- but, he kept letting Khachanov off the hook- so, Khachanov never really had to get any ongoing heebie-jeebies at clutch times.
I mean, HEY- Nick does now have a doubles Slam title- which, truly, I fully respect. But, Nick, sweetie- you ain't Carlos-19. The clock is ticking. Get better, get more disciplined, learn when it is not needed to go for the glory shots. Or- just be Monfils, with a better doubles title. IMO, it's just nor worth rooting for me, otherwise, if you care about him winning singles Slam titles.
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Deuce Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:34 am
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:21 am
Owendonovan wrote:Dude getting his hair cut 3 rows back from the court was special.
What? Srsly? Also friends texting me that Nick might not finish. I’m not watching. Rafa would play in that leg til it falls off if he had a golden chance to win a Slam. Numb it up and keep going, Nick.
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Yes, dude had clippers on his buddy's head.
^ Things like this are 100% a product of 'social media' and the desperate craving for attention which is so inherent to 'social media'...
Sigh...
2 Removed For Haircut in Stands...
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by jazzyg I can't recall anyone saying Krygios was unbeatable.
I do think he played well enough to win tonight. He just didn't get it done. The drop shot to break back in the fifth that went into the net probably determined the winner in a highly entertaining last two sets (I did not start watching until the end of the third set).
This was Kyrgios' best chance ever to win a slam, and I doubt he will stay focused enough or work hard enough to get in this position again. I hope to be wrong because even though I can't stand his histrionics, I love his actual game and his versatility.
by Suliso One never knows about Kyrgios, but I would argue that his chances on grass are even better than on hard.
by meganfernandez
Not sure Nick is ever going to win one with his emotional state.
I know he was devastated (he said so) but he said he doesn’t care about any other tournaments now but the Slams. Because those are the only ones people remember. Said a lot of other things, too. Like nothing matters if you don’t win the Slam. You put in so much work and if you lose it means nothing. Talked about disappointing so many people. Not sure he has the emotions for this if he can’t take a hard loss. And I don’t think you can forsake the whole tour and be ready to win a Slam. It’s a shame, and very sad.
But maybe this is the part he improves and comes back more ready in a few years. I always wondered if he would have an Agassi-like metamorphosis and do better when he grows emotionally. And becomes the sage of the sport.
Agree about grass, though. Easier on the body, too.
by ponchi101 Kyrgios still has time. Because of things here and there, he has not played a lot of matches: 199-112, for a bit over 300 matches. For a 27 yo, that is not excessive.
@jazzyg: while I did not voice out "unbeatable", that was my feeling. The level of play Vs Medvedev was very high, and I went by that. I feel now that that told us more about Medvedev's game than Kyrgios, but of course, that is in retrospect. For all his #1 stint, Daniil's sole tournament this year was Los Cabos, a minor one.
I guess I was taken by the flashiness of his game.
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mick1303 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 8:06 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:20 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:17 pm
The unofficial #1. Sure. Lendl was #1 in 89, by rankings. Everybody gave it to Becker, with his W and USO wins.
Bets year is Rafa's. The rest is up for debate.
I think that was the reference to 1983 rather than 1989. Lendl's first Slam came at 84 RG, but he first took #1 spot in March of 83.
No. This time I was talking along the lines of Rafa being #1 for the year, regardless of the rankings. In 1989, Lendl finished the year ranked #1 in the official rankings. Of course he had been #1 for a long time before that. But, in 89, Becker won the W/USO double, beating Lendl in the USO final. So, despite of the rankings, everybody agreed that Becker was the #1 for the year.
Remember that Becker was never a Year-End #1.
That was the comparison I was making. Of course, your figures about Lendl becoming #1 first in 1983 is totally correct.
I probably lost the track of conversation. I thought Lendl was referenced in the talk about slamless #1 before that.
by 3mlm We can hope both Ruud and Alcaraz make the final. That way we're guaranteed to have a slam winner #1 and slam finalist #2.
by ponchi101 It hadn't dawn on me. That's a good point.