ATP & WTA rankings

[ashkor87]

I 'pick' on Pegula because her ranking is always too high..that is all.

[ashkor87]

So how come they reached such rankings? If you say that any player is not as good as their ranking says, by definition there must be other players that are better than what their ranking says, because the one you claim is not as good should be ranked lower, and therefore such a player is occupying the spot of a better player that is ranked lower.
Mind you, I don't disagree necessarily with that premise; I don't think anybody in the tennis world will say that right now, Alcaraz is NOT the best player in the world, despite being ranked 3rd.
But you continuously choose Pegula as a worst player than her ranking says. So, how come she reached it?

Well yes, I choose Pegula because she is consistently ranked in the top 5-6. Is she really the 6th best player in the world right now, on any surface?! But I agree 6 is closer to where she should be, the top 4 are clearly better than the rest, who can pretty much be bunched together...

[ashkor87]

Pegula and Sakkari are not equally overrated, as Pegula's much higher ranking has borne out.

Sakkari has only won one 1000 level, but has been to the finals of 3 others and the semis of 6 additional events, so she gets a lot of points from there.

Tautology!

[ashkor87]

For the upcoming hard court season, I would rank players thusly:
Men:
1. Sinner
2. Alcaraz
3. Medvedev
4. Djokovic
One of these will win.
Next group (no order) - Fritz, Hurkacz, Paul,
Musetti
These will do well, but not win the whole thing.
Women:
1. Gauff
2. Rybakina
3. Swiatek
4. Sabalenka
One of these will take the title
Next group (no order) - Jabeur, Pegula, Alexandrova, Krejcikova,Vekic, collins, navarro
These can do well but not win the title

Returning players who (we hope) can do well- Andreescu, Osaka, Raducanu, Muchova
The rest are not likely to be a force.

[ponchi101]

Have you heard anything about Sabalenka's injury? Shoulder injuries take so long to recover.

[ashkor87]

Have you heard anything about Sabalenka's injury? Shoulder injuries take so long to recover.

No but I am expecting her to use the Olympics fortnight to rest, anyway...
Update..her Instagram post says injury is healed and she will resume playing this week .so all good .she will return at the Washington tournament

[skatingfan]

Arthur Fils will supplant Alcaraz as the youngest member of the top 20 with his title run in Hamburg.

[Suliso]

Czech players in WTA top 200 (ages in brackets).

#10 Krejcikova (28)
#18 Vondrousova (25)
#27 Noskova (19)
#30 Muchova (27)
#38 Siniakova (28)
#42 Bouzkova (26)
#44 Pliskova (32)
#87 B. Fruhvirtova (17)
#128 Salkova (20)
#136 Bejlek (18)
#139 L. Fruhvirtova (19)
#178 Knutson (27)
#199 Kvitova (34)

16 year old Laura Samson will be #373 (+261) next Monday. There is also Tereza Valentova, only half a year older, at #274.

Samson changed from Samsonova for playing purposes to avoid confusion with Ludmila Samsonova abreviated identically as L. Samsonova.

[skatingfan]

Samson changed from Samsonova for playing purposes to avoid confusion with Ludmila Samsonova abreviated identically as L. Samsonova.

That was very considerate of her - I'm sure that TAT's contest folks will appreciate that in the very near future.

[Suliso]

Girl's junior GS champions 2010-2020 with highest WTA singles ranking in parentheses

2010: Karolina Pliskova (1), Elina Svitolina (3), Krystina Pliskova (35), Daria Gavrilova (20)
2011: Ann-Sophie Mestach (98), Ons Jabeur (2), Ashleigh Barty (1), Grace Min (97)
2012: Taylor Townsend (57), Annika Beck (37), Eugenie Bouchard (5), Samantha Crawford (98)
2013: Ana Konjuh (20), Belinda Bencic (4)
2014: Elizaveta Kulichkova (87), Daria Kasatkina (8), Jelena Ostapenko (5), Marie Bouzkova (24)
2015: Tereza Mihalikova (349), Paula Badosa (2), Sofya Zhuk (116), Dalma Galfi (79)
2016: Vera Lapko (60), Rebeka Masarova (62), Anastasia Potapova (21), Kayla Day (84)
2017: Marta Kostyuk (16), Whitney Osuigwe (105), Claire Liu (52), Amanda Anisimova (21)
2018: Liang En-shuo (150), Coco Gauff (2), Iga Swiatek (1), Wang Xiyu (49)
2019: Clara Tauson (33), Leylah Fernandez (13), Daria Snigur (105), Camila Osorio (33)
2020: Victoria Jimenez Kasintseva (121), Elsa Jacquemot (143)

Some of the latest ones are still very young and much can change. Nevertheless some statistics from this list:

40 different players in 11 years accounting for Covid and double winners (Konjuh and Bencic)
35 (87.5%) have achieved minimum success defined as career high in the top 100
14 (35%) have reached the top 20
10 (25%) have reached the top 10
3 (7.5%) have been #1

4 (10%) have won GS titles (Barty, Ostapenko, Gauff and Swiatek)

[Suliso]

Junior GS winners (both tours, open era) who have gone on to win GS titles in chronological order:

Men: John McEnroe, Ivan Lendl, Mats Wilander, Pat Cash, Stefan Edberg (Junior calendar year GS winner), Roger Federer, Andy Roddick, Stanislas Wawrinka, Andy Murray, Marin Cilic

Women: Mima Jausovec, Sue Barker, Hana Mandlikova, Tracy Austin, Gabriela Sabatini, Jennifer Capriati, Lindsay Davenport, Martina Hingis, Amelie Mauresmo, Justine Henin, Marion Bartoli, Victoria Azarenka, Caroline Wozniacki, Simona Halep, Ashleigh Barty, Jelena Ostapenko, Coco Gauff, Iga Swiatek

A total of 10 men and 18 women.

[ashkor87]

Awesome list..thanks!!

[ashkor87]

Also interesting to note the time they need to make their mark in the pro circuit,.I had done a computation once..it is between 2 to 7 years I think

[ponchi101]

...

Some of the latest ones are still very young and much can change. Nevertheless some statistics from this list:

40 different players in 11 years accounting for Covid and double winners (Konjuh and Bencic)
35 (87.5%) have achieved minimum success defined as career high in the top 100
14 (35%) have reached the top 20
10 (25%) have reached the top 10
3 (7.5%) have been #1

4 (10%) have won GS titles (Barty, Ostapenko, Gauff and Swiatek)

I don't understand the ACCOUNTING FOR COVID part.

[Suliso]

In 2020 only two junior GS tournaments were held. Otherwise in 11 years max is 44 winners.