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Osaka was. No longer. The endorsements tell you so.
Coco is not yet a superstar. To be that, you need to be a star outside of tennis. The same for Carlitos.
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You also need to be a star outside your home market.
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Shelton has the makings... some day he may be. Berrettini's face is plastered on the London tube, even in India, so he may be on the way too
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ashkor87 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 5:01 am Shelton has the makings... some day he may be. Berrettini's face is plastered on the London tube, even in India, so he may be on the way too
Berrettini's claim to stardom is based on other factors, not the quality of his tennis.
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Model looks will only get you so far.
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ponchi101 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:57 am Osaka was. No longer. The endorsements tell you so.
Coco is not yet a superstar. To be that, you need to be a star outside of tennis. The same for Carlitos.
You don't think Osaka still has the same or similar Q rating, with her connections to huge markets? She lit the Olympics flame 3.5 years ago.


ponchi101 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:49 am Is there anybody that can really be called a tennis superstar nowadays?
Not globally. Osaka, Serena and Federer still carry the torch.
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meganfernandez wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:57 am Osaka was. No longer. The endorsements tell you so.
Coco is not yet a superstar. To be that, you need to be a star outside of tennis. The same for Carlitos.
You don't think Osaka still has the same or similar Q rating, with her connections to huge markets? She lit the Olympics flame 3.5 years ago.


ponchi101 wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2025 3:49 am Is there anybody that can really be called a tennis superstar nowadays?
Not globally. Osaka, Serena and Federer still carry the torch.
Exactly. 3.5 years ago. She has been off too long, and has not been a factor at a slam in a long time.
Stardom is usually a "what have you done for me lately" thing.
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I still think Naomi has a huge fan base who still believes in her return to grand slam glory. I personally think her relationship ending with Cordae will likely help her. I don't think she's designed to carry a lot of baggage.
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Halep has announced her retirement...
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Owendonovan wrote: Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:50 am I still think Naomi has a huge fan base who still believes in her return to grand slam glory. I personally think her relationship ending with Cordae will likely help her. I don't think she's designed to carry a lot of baggage.
The best measurement of how big a star you are is the amount of endorsements, and how much you get paid. That was how we always knew Roger was more popular than anybody. And the fact that he lost almost no endorsements after retirement was a sign of his stardom.
Osaka has lost a lot in that department. Ergo my appraisal that she is no longer a big star, outside of tennis.
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