Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
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Osaka was. No longer. The endorsements tell you so.
Coco is not yet a superstar. To be that, you need to be a star outside of tennis. The same for Carlitos.
Coco is not yet a superstar. To be that, you need to be a star outside of tennis. The same for Carlitos.
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Shelton has the makings... some day he may be. Berrettini's face is plastered on the London tube, even in India, so he may be on the way too
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Berrettini's claim to stardom is based on other factors, not the quality of his tennis.
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You don't think Osaka still has the same or similar Q rating, with her connections to huge markets? She lit the Olympics flame 3.5 years ago.
Not globally. Osaka, Serena and Federer still carry the torch.
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Exactly. 3.5 years ago. She has been off too long, and has not been a factor at a slam in a long time.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 7:36 pmYou don't think Osaka still has the same or similar Q rating, with her connections to huge markets? She lit the Olympics flame 3.5 years ago.
Not globally. Osaka, Serena and Federer still carry the torch.
Stardom is usually a "what have you done for me lately" thing.
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I still think Naomi has a huge fan base who still believes in her return to grand slam glory. I personally think her relationship ending with Cordae will likely help her. I don't think she's designed to carry a lot of baggage.
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The best measurement of how big a star you are is the amount of endorsements, and how much you get paid. That was how we always knew Roger was more popular than anybody. And the fact that he lost almost no endorsements after retirement was a sign of his stardom.Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 3:50 am I still think Naomi has a huge fan base who still believes in her return to grand slam glory. I personally think her relationship ending with Cordae will likely help her. I don't think she's designed to carry a lot of baggage.
Osaka has lost a lot in that department. Ergo my appraisal that she is no longer a big star, outside of tennis.
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