Suliso wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:06 pm
Is RNC having a plan post Trump? As for Democrats they'll need to spend the next 3 years or so in substantially remaking their message.
Project 2025 is the plan, which is the same as the GOP funders' plan in the last decades, just MAGAfied. Take over the federal and local judiciary systems and local legislatures.
The country will become more and more federalist with state laws continuing to veer away from each other. At that point, the President matters less and less.
I'd assume the GOP leadership knows there is a good chance he won't go in 2028 and will try to get re-elected.
I wonder how much of a factor the state level abortion protection initiatives were...they mostly did well..it may have acted as a vent that allowed people to vote for Trump even if they were concerned for abortion ..
mmmm8 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:34 pm
The country will become more and more federalist with state laws continuing to veer away from each other. At that point, the President matters less and less.
If that's the only thing coming out of it we'll be very lucky indeed. More federalist is maybe fine anyway.
Palestine will be ethnically cleansed so Kushner et al can build resorts on the coastline.
There's a very good chance there will be a regional war in East Asia with Taiwan in danger of disappearing as an independent state.
And the US legal system is now faced with how to treat a convicted felon as head of government. He has no say over state legal proceedings though.
Also don't forget Aileen Cannon is on his list of possible AG's.
All these women who are saying they "just couldn't vote for Harris" (wink, wink) will see the chickens come home to roost when it's their precious who needs a medical procedure and will have to be drive out of state to get it.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
I told him to be quiet, and he's like "why? that's his biggest policy." And honestly, he's correct. That's what the man ran on and that's why he got elected.
So now comes the rampant bullying, I'm sure, and I'm in a blue area (of a very red state, but still).
I'm not sure how to do today.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
I’m on break in my car, I just broke down. I’m supposed to be back in the room but had to have someone cover until I can pull it together. I teach 5th. Kids were asking why their families have to be deported, saying how they’re scared. A fourth grade class just started collectively crying. I just need to pull myself together and get back inside. I also don’t want them to see me scared for them, I want give reassurance, but I don’t know how right now. I don’t know what to do.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
I do want to say that I think the only "safe" group of Latino's in the US are Cubans and Puerto Ricans. Everyone else is fair game and it may be their kids who are going to make it clear to their parents that they are the "others" who will be deported.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
Sahil Kapur
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Despite all the chatter, Trump didn't really gain with black voters nationwide: 86% Harris, 12% Trump.
Unchanged from 2020 when 87% of black voters went for Biden, 12% went for Trump.
Black men? Static. 78-20% in 2024, 79-19% in 2020.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:24 pm
I do want to say that I think the only "safe" group of Latino's in the US are Cubans and Puerto Ricans. Everyone else is fair game and it may be their kids who are going to make it clear to their parents that they are the "others" who will be deported.
Indeed.
But Tiny won the Hispanic vote. And I know that most Venezuelans in Miami/Ft. Lauderdale thought that Tiny was "the man".
So, I hope to see their sorry a** back in Venezuela soon.
You voted for Chavez in 1998. And you voted for Trump in 2024. I hope you suffer.
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:13 pm
Ukraine is S.O.L.
Palestine will be ethnically cleansed so Kushner et al can build resorts on the coastline.
There's a very good chance there will be a regional war in East Asia with Taiwan in danger of disappearing as an independent state.
And the US legal system is now faced with how to treat a convicted felon as head of government. He has no say over state legal proceedings though.
Also don't forget Aileen Cannon is on his list of possible AG's.
All these women who are saying they "just couldn't vote for Harris" (wink, wink) will see the chickens come home to roost when it's their precious who needs a medical procedure and will have to be drive out of state to get it.
Meanwhile, it's important for us to take stock of precisely what happened.
CNN did extensive exit polling yesterday. One of the earlier exit polls indicated that about 90% of voters across the nation had made their decision about for whom they were going to vote BEFORE SEPTEMBER. That makes sense. That would be true for me as well.
Yes. The MAGA vote was always going to be mostly about whiteness and misogyny. We knew that a long time ago.
But there are good reasons why "It's the economy, stupid" is trending on Twitter.
I saw a few interviews with voters last night that really stuck with me.
The first was with a fairly young white man (I think he was in Michigan) who stated he had voted for Trump. When asked why, his response was pretty simple: He works a lot of overtime, so the message about no taxes on overtime really resonated with him. He also stated the last time he voted in a presidential election, he voted for Obama.
The second was with a young Asian couple--they were clearly immigrants, and they are expecting their first child. I don't remember their location, but it was a swing state. Anyway, they own a small business, and they both stated they had voted for Trump because their business has been significantly hurt in recent years by inflation.
So yes, there's MAGA. No question. But a lot of people in PA, NC, MI, GA, WI, NV, and AZ voted their wallets and pocketbooks. Sure, they're missing some valuable information and context, but they're real. And they vote.
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:40 pm
Meanwhile, it's important for us to take stock of precisely what happened.
CNN did extensive exit polling yesterday. One of the earlier exit polls indicated that about 90% of voters across the nation had made their decision about for whom they were going to vote BEFORE SEPTEMBER. That makes sense. That would be true for me as well.
Yes. The MAGA vote was always going to be mostly about whiteness and misogyny. We knew that a long time ago.
But there are good reasons why "It's the economy, stupid" is trending on Twitter.
I saw a few interviews with voters last night that really stuck with me.
The first was with a fairly young white man (I think he was in Michigan) who stated he had voted for Trump. When asked why, his response was pretty simple: He works a lot of overtime, so the message about no taxes on overtime really resonated with him. He also stated the last time he voted in a presidential election, he voted for Obama.
The second was with a young Asian couple--they were clearly immigrants, and they are expecting their first child. I don't remember their location, but it was a swing state. Anyway, they own a small business, and they both stated they had voted for Trump because their business has been significantly hurt in recent years by inflation.
So yes, there's MAGA. No question. But a lot of people in PA, NC, MI, GA, WI, NV, and AZ voted their wallets and pocketbooks. Sure, they're missing some valuable information and context, but they're real. And they vote.
Wait until the promised tariffs hit...
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:40 pm
Meanwhile, it's important for us to take stock of precisely what happened.
CNN did extensive exit polling yesterday. One of the earlier exit polls indicated that about 90% of voters across the nation had made their decision about for whom they were going to vote BEFORE SEPTEMBER. That makes sense. That would be true for me as well.
Yes. The MAGA vote was always going to be mostly about whiteness and misogyny. We knew that a long time ago.
But there are good reasons why "It's the economy, stupid" is trending on Twitter.
I saw a few interviews with voters last night that really stuck with me.
The first was with a fairly young white man (I think he was in Michigan) who stated he had voted for Trump. When asked why, his response was pretty simple: He works a lot of overtime, so the message about no taxes on overtime really resonated with him. He also stated the last time he voted in a presidential election, he voted for Obama.
The second was with a young Asian couple--they were clearly immigrants, and they are expecting their first child. I don't remember their location, but it was a swing state. Anyway, they own a small business, and they both stated they had voted for Trump because their business has been significantly hurt in recent years by inflation.
So yes, there's MAGA. No question. But a lot of people in PA, NC, MI, GA, WI, NV, and AZ voted their wallets and pocketbooks. Sure, they're missing some valuable information and context, but they're real. And they vote.
Wait until the promised tariffs hit...
And until the younger white guy doesn't get tax-free overtime. Unfortunately, that's not the point. It should be. But it's not.
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