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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
To be fair, Raducanu has been out with injuries a lot more than Fernandez has..
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
Being fit is a part of being good. If you lag behind because of injuries, it does not induce any asterisks on your competitors.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
Unless your fan stabs your opponent with a knife. This kind of "injury" definitely warrants an asterisk.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
The 2nd set of the women's final has been interesting.
Dasha won the first set. Up a break early in 2nd. Midway through Leylah broke back to get on serve. Then immediately broke again. She didn't consolidate by losing a game on her serve at love. Still on serve at 5-4.
(And Dasha promptly broke her at love again to seal the deal. There are few can count on more in the week before a slam. Knew I should have laid some quid on her. )
Dasha won the first set. Up a break early in 2nd. Midway through Leylah broke back to get on serve. Then immediately broke again. She didn't consolidate by losing a game on her serve at love. Still on serve at 5-4.
(And Dasha promptly broke her at love again to seal the deal. There are few can count on more in the week before a slam. Knew I should have laid some quid on her. )
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
Fritz played a heck of a lot better this week than in any of his grass court tournaments last year or this. He did not beat anyone of consequence and went two straight matches without breaking his opponent, but he was serving huge and controlling the baseline rallies, the latter of which he did not do at all a year ago. He will make the second week of Wimbledon this year and will have a shot against Draper or Zverev in the fourth round, although I would not pick him.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
If it hadn't been because of injuries, Richard Krajicek would have won at least 4 slams. He was that good. But he also got injured that frequently.
Part of the game.
About asterisks: Maureen Connolly. The greatest "what could have been".
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
You still will not put Krajicek ahead of someone who won more (i.e. Kafelnikov) because of "what if". What happened beats what could've happened each and every time.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
Completely agree. I noticed I missed a HADN'T in my post.
"What if such and such" never counts, when talking about the past.
"What if such and such" never counts, when talking about the past.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
I'm a little late to the party, and not a particular Schiavone fan, but in fairness to her, she did make the final at the FO the year following her title run. And she did make the quarters of every other slam. Not, perhaps, a great player, but slightly better than a 1 hit wonder who completely disappeared after her title run in 2010.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:00 pmAt their best result. If you go by that process of selection, Goran is/was better than Ferrer, Tsonga and every other player that never won a slam.ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:49 pm Class is to be seen by how good the player is at her best..on average, all players are around 50% probably ...Raducanu winning the USO was not a fluke, neither was Osaka, nor Andreescu nor Sloane...all of them won by playing extraordinarily well over 7 rounds .
As for Pegula, she is a very good player but never a great player..on the whole, a bit over-rated, specially by the American media ..
Goran was damn good, but to grant him such status just because one slam favored his huge serve (at the time) is a bit extreme, for me.
And the definition of a fluke is precisely that you won 7 matches in a row during two weeks (Emma won 10 in three). Majoli was a fluke, Schiavone was a fluke, Penetta was a fluke, Tommy Johansson was a fluke and Gaston Gaudio was a fluke. They never did anything of relevance other than their specific two weeks.
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Re: WTA 500 ATP 250 Eastbourne 6/24 - 6/29 2024
Schiavone is one of those players who took advantage of an open draw to make a final, and ended up winning, and instead of shying away from their new status as a Grand Slam Champion she embraced the situation, and took advantage of better draws, and other perks that higher ranked players received.Jeff from TX wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:03 pm I'm a little late to the party, and not a particular Schiavone fan, but in fairness to her, she did make the final at the FO the year following her title run. And she did make the quarters of every other slam. Not, perhaps, a great player, but slightly better than a 1 hit wonder who completely disappeared after her title run in 2010.
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