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Reads to me that Qinwen didn't treat her as if she is the Queen Dowager (If you watch Asian dramas specifically Chinese dramas you know what I mean ;) )
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I hate Monday's after slams... :cry:
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Wait it's not a marital aid... ;)

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It IS a marital aid.
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saw an interview with Pegula's coach somewhere (cant remember where) - apparently, they have been working with her on depth, even at the risk of overhitting it long - better than a short return the opponent can pounce on. I did think she was hitting the ball very deep at this USO - that is good thinking.. somewhat like Gilbert telling Coco it is better to serve double faults than to serve attackable second serves. It is working for Pegula, perhaps not so much for Coco, but I like the thinking. Hope she keeps up with it.
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I don't mind hitting long as much as I mind hitting short. If I hit a passing shot and it flies long, there is always the possibility that my opponent will try to volley it, and the point is still alive. Hit it into the net, and it was doomed from the beginning.
The same for double faults. Much better to hit them long that short. Short means you did not go for it, especially in DF's. Long meant you put too much sauce, which I can live with.
Agree with Pegula's coach.

Regarding Coco. The problem is that the number is so high that the logic does not work. If you are hitting 19 DF's per two sets, it is better to get a weak serve in because the returner will at least miss a few.
Remember that Lendl was the one that started that logic. But Lendl was talking 3-4 DF's; his second serve was reliable.
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ponchi101 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 7:26 pm I don't mind hitting long as much as I mind hitting short. If I hit a passing shot and it flies long, there is always the possibility that my opponent will try to volley it, and the point is still alive. Hit it into the net, and it was doomed from the beginning.
The same for double faults. Much better to hit them long that short. Short means you did not go for it, especially in DF's. Long meant you put too much sauce, which I can live with.
Agree with Pegula's coach.

Regarding Coco. The problem is that the number is so high that the logic does not work. If you are hitting 19 DF's per two sets, it is better to get a weak serve in because the returner will at least miss a few.
Remember that Lendl was the one that started that logic. But Lendl was talking 3-4 DF's; his second serve was reliable.
I essentially listen to 4 tennis podcasts with regularity. Three of them have touched on this subject.
Roddick says Pegula hits the ball very flat and "through" the court.

Jonathan Stokke (baseline intelligence) was on Doubles Only (ironically) and gave his "Stokke 6" - which are the errors to work out of your game. (His point being the recreational player can gain way more from removing errors first). He mainly talks about never hitting it wide - because the court is so wide. Means your target needs to be shifted more center. He talks about double faults, but spends some time talking about short balls. Hitting long is not one of his errors, for the reasons you said.
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skatingfan wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:48 am

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