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[ponchi101]

Fertility cliff is coming to India too and very soon.

Hypothetical question: will there be a country that will wipe itself out by this crisis? For example, Denmark. Tiny population, and a fertility rate of 1.1.
Could Denmark be empty (at last of Danish people) in, let's say, 40 years?

[Suliso]

Actually Denmark is a rather high 1.77. But hypothetically yes, albeit it would take more like 2-3 centuries even at 1.1. I think South Korea will be among the first to test it.

[skatingfan]

Actually Denmark is a rather high 1.77. But hypothetically yes, albeit it would take more like 2-3 centuries even at 1.1. I think South Korea will be among the first to test it.

North Korea probably wipes out South Korea before they could wipe themselves out.

[Suliso]

Maybe, but North Korea is hardly a "baby paradise".

[ponchi101]

Actually Denmark is a rather high 1.77. But hypothetically yes, albeit it would take more like 2-3 centuries even at 1.1. I think South Korea will be among the first to test it.

Txs. I had read that Denmark was at 1.1.
S. Korea at 0.68. I did not know. That is insane.
So, by the end of the century they will be only half of the current population.

[ti-amie]

[Owendonovan]

Can I get $47 and balk?

[ashkor87]

Fertility cliff is coming to India too and very soon.

What is the relevance? Am I missing something,? I was talking about the pressure, hankering for things you cannot yet afford, then tying yourself with debt, and then saying you can't move.

[Suliso]

Fertility cliff is coming to India too and very soon.

What is the relevance? Am I missing something,? I was talking about the pressure, hankering for things you cannot yet afford, then tying yourself with debt, and then saying you can't move.

It was about having kids. Hence my comment that it's a global phenomena, not particularly connected to any country or region. I don't think it has anything to do with debt.

[ashkor87]

Fertility cliff is coming to India too and very soon.

What is the relevance? Am I missing something,? I was talking about the pressure, hankering for things you cannot yet afford, then tying yourself with debt, and then saying you can't move.

It was about having kids. Hence my comment that it's a global phenomena, not particularly connected to any country or region. I don't think it has anything to do with debt.

the argument they were making is that people cant afford to have kids any more.

[Suliso]

Yes and I disagree with that.

[ponchi101]

I agree with that in some countries.
Having a kid in Venezuela or Argentina is financial madness. In Colombia too, to a lesser degree.
I would not know anything about that in India, or China.

[Suliso]

Realistically 90% of people will never be able to afford 2+ kids with sky high criteria common these days. Our parents or grandparents 40 years ago couldn't either, but the culture was different.

[ponchi101]

My dad could afford 5. My uncle 4. My sister's godfather (very close family) 4, as did the families of both my brothers' wives (4 & 4).
Different times. It was normal for all families to be around that figure. But that was the time in which Venezuela was the land of golden opportunities.

[ashkor87]

It is about what matters to you, at the end of the day...I think the joy kids can bring you is beyond all price...