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ashkor87 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:02 pm It is about what matters to you, at the end of the day...I think the joy kids can bring you is beyond all price...
That is beyond discussion. Again, Friedman makes it very clear he is talking about the FINANCIAL aspects. The emotional rewards are almost impossible to qualify or quantify.
Then again. I have a friend that once told me that having her daughter was the worst mistake of her life. And another person, an adoring father of two beautiful young girls, also told me once that he adored them and would do anything for them. But, if given the choice, he would not have them. The sense of responsibility was too much.
It is a very complex issue.
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Makes no difference. His people just don't go to rallies, but will cast that vote.
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Since President Biden was forced out of the race due to one bad debate performance it's only fair to show what the media/press is ignoring these days.



I guess he hasn't seen Don Jr in awhile...

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Note where he is speaking.
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I have no idea what "things" he's talking about.

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As you all say here all the time his cult members don't care about things like this. The msm says it's committed to presenting both sides to the public. He babbled like this for an hour and 55m.
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Trump addresses Detroit Economic Club; Harris campaigning in Nevada, Arizona

Former president Donald Trump addressed the Detroit Economic Club in the battleground state of Michigan. Ahead of the speech, he proposed a new set of tax incentives and trade protections aimed at bolstering the U.S. auto industry without explaining how they would be paid for. Vice President Kamala Harris participated in a Nevada event Thursday with another planned later in the day in Arizona, two states where Latino voters play a significant role. Polls have shown a tight race between Harris and Trump in both states.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/election ... ris-trump/
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Let's go, latinos! Let's vote for Trump! Yes, swell idea.
But don't complain too loud when they snatch dad and grandpa and send them to Mexico, even though they may be Venezuelan, Colombian, Salvadorian or any other nationality.
But: let's vote for Trump.

I'll say it, because I am from Venezuela. We sure can be stupid.
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Oct. 10, 2024, 6:19 p.m. ET 49 minutes ago
Michael Gold and Alan RappeportMichael Gold reported from Detroit, and Alan Rappeport from Washington.

In a rambling speech, Trump tells Detroit executives he wants to make car loan interest tax deductible.

Former President Donald J. Trump was roughly an hour and a half into a nearly two-hour speech to the Detroit Economic Club on Thursday afternoon before he got to his main new policy proposal: a call to make car loan interest fully tax deductible.

The proposal, which came late during a circuitous speech to business leaders, merged two of Mr. Trump’s favored efforts to win voters: targeted tax cuts aimed at key voting blocs nationwide and promises to revitalize the auto industry in Michigan, a critical battleground state. Even before this latest tax cut proposal, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget estimated that Mr. Trump’s agenda could add as much as $15 trillion to the nation’s debt over a decade.

Mr. Trump claimed his plan would “stimulate massive domestic auto production and make car ownership dramatically more affordable” for families.

But before he got to his new proposal, Mr. Trump often rambled, reviving his false claims about the 2020 election, mocking President Biden’s 2020 campaign crowds, praising Elon Musk’s rockets. At one point, as he criticized Vice President Kamala Harris, Mr. Trump did something that politicians rarely do: He took a pointed dig at the city that was hosting him.

“Our whole country will end up being like Detroit if she’s your president,” he said. “You’re going to have a mess on your hands.”

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, a Democrat, blasted Mr. Trump’s comments in a social media post, saying that “you better believe Detroiters won’t forget this in November.”

As Mr. Trump spoke about his proposals to revive the auto industry, he used some of the same kind of violent, cataclysmic language he often uses to vilify immigrants.

“After our victory in 2016, the Michigan auto industry was on its knees, begging for help, gasping,” he said at one point. Later, he claimed that international corporations had been allowed to “come in and raid and rape” the nation, a word choice he underscored. “That’s right, I used the word,” he said. “They raped our country.”

Mr. Trump’s proposals were the latest example of his dangling new, and expensive, tax benefits to groups of voters that he sees as key to his election chances next month. The former president has already called for eliminating taxes on tips, overtime and Social Security benefits. On Wednesday night, he released a statement calling for a tax cut for Americans who live abroad, who must still file a tax return with the Internal Revenue Service.

It is not clear how much it would cost the federal government in lost tax revenue if car loan interest were fully deductible.

Mr. Trump’s proposal to make interest on car loans tax deductible could be likened to the mortgage interest deduction, which Mr. Trump limited in the 2017 tax cuts that he enacted as president. Mr. Trump expanded the standard deduction, which has pushed far fewer Americans to itemize deductions on their tax returns. In 2017, before the law went into effect, 31 percent of Americans itemized their deductions on their tax returns, according to the Tax Policy Center. In 2020, just 10 percent of Americans itemized, the center found.

Higher-income Americans are much more likely to still itemize deductions on their tax bills — and therefore would be the main beneficiaries of Mr. Trump’s idea. (The mortgage interest deduction encourages people to buy homes, which tend to gain value over time; the merits of a federal tax policy that encourages people to borrow to buy automobiles, which lose value quickly, could be more questionable.)

During his speech Mr. Trump also promised to keep “Chinese-produced autonomous vehicles” off American streets, an effort already being undertaken by the Biden administration, which last month proposed banning Chinese-developed software from internet-connected vehicles in the United States. Though few Chinese vehicles are on U.S. roads, federal officials called the move a proactive effort to address potential national security issues.

Mr. Trump also reiterated many of his manufacturing proposals, including his call for tariffs and his plan to offer companies tax breaks and other benefits if they move their manufacturing to the United States or keep it there.

The former president also signaled that he was prepared to take more aggressive protectionist measures to shield the automobile sector from foreign competition in a second term, saying he would take steps to prevent China and other countries from passing products through other countries to avoid U.S. tariffs.

And Mr. Trump said he would formally notify Mexico and Canada that he planned to renegotiate the trade deal that he reached with them in 2018. He warned them again that he would seek to impose 100 percent tariffs on Chinese cars that are manufactured in Mexico and imported to the United States.

It had been expected that parts of the trade deal would be revisited in 2026. Mr. Harris said two weeks ago that she would open the review process. She was one of 10 senators to vote against the agreement.

Mr. Trump’s remarks, held at the Sound Board Theater inside the MotorCity Casino and Hotel, were given to an audience atypical for a Trump event. Unlike a raucous rally, the business leaders in the room were more muted in their response.

And the Economic Club’s president, Steve Grigorian, noted that a number of Democratic officials were in attendance, including Michigan’s secretary of state, Jocelyn Benson, who in 2020 faced armed protesters at her house chanting that they refused to accept that Mr. Trump had lost that election.

Mr. Trump acknowledged her attendance while complaining about Democrats’ stance on voter identification laws.

Before Mr. Trump’s speech, the Harris campaign held a call with Shawn Fain, the president of the United Automobile Workers, which endorsed Ms. Harris. Mr. Fain — who Mr. Trump attacked repeatedly during Thursday’s speech — criticized the former president’s economic record, saying his time in office was marked by “plant closings, job loss and union busting.”

Voters in the Detroit metropolitan area will be crucial if Mr. Trump hopes to win Michigan, a battleground state that helped deliver his victory in 2016 but that he lost in 2020. His speech on Thursday was his fourth event in the state in the last two weeks.

Polls have shown Mr. Trump and Ms. Harris locked in a tight contest in the state. According to a recent survey from The New York Times and Siena College, Mr. Trump’s perceived strength on economic issues has cut into an advantage that Ms. Harris held in early August, shortly after she replaced Mr. Biden on the Democratic ticket.

After speaking for nearly two hours, Mr. Trump sat down with John Rakolta, one of his former ambassadors to the United Arab Emirates, to take questions. As some people left the room, Mr. Rakolta acknowledged the lengthy remarks.

“That was a tremendous amount of information that you’ve given to us,” he said.

Andrew Duehren and Ana Swanson contributed reporting.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/10/10 ... p-election
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ponchi101 wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 11:31 pm Let's go, latinos! Let's vote for Trump! Yes, swell idea.
But don't complain too loud when they snatch dad and grandpa and send them to Mexico, even though they may be Venezuelan, Colombian, Salvadorian or any other nationality.
But: let's vote for Trump.

I'll say it, because I am from Venezuela. We sure can be stupid.
Don't forget that they have no idea about the cultural and social differences among the people you mention. In their minds they all speak Spanish so they're all "Latino", the same as the Cubans and we'll approach them the same way is their mindset. I'll never forget Reagan going to South America and saying "they're all different down there" (paraphrasing).
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unfortunately, most Latinos tend to be catholic, and conservative about issues like a woman's place in the world, the Church, and abortion - all positions that align with Republicans
I personally think organized religions are the most stupid and mind-fogging things in the world. (yes, including Hinduism, but I think the Judaeo-Christian ones are the worst, including Islam).
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No, no, no. What you mean is: most Latinos tend to be hypocrites. Just like the republicans, who disapprove of abortion until it is their daughter that needs one.
And most latinos tend to be hypocrites, who do not want any more ilegal aliens in the country, now that THEY made it in.
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Known to the rest of the world as OCCUPIED AMERICA.
You have to admit, his level of delusion is off the scale. I am in a boat with 17 nationalities on board. You are known as: The USA.
Nothing more.
But that is what he is selling, and 70 million people will buy it.
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