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US import price index data came out today—and showed that the pre-tariff price for imports from China actually rose, not fell, after the US imposed 10% tariffs in February

It implies Americans, not Chinese producers, are currently paying the vast majority of tariff costs

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Dow futures tumble 1,000 points on fear Trump’s tariffs will spark trade war: Live updates
Updated Wed, Apr 2 2025 7:46 PM EDT
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U.S. stock futures cratered as President Donald Trump unveiled sweeping tariffs of at least 10% and even higher for some countries, raising the risks of a global trade war that hits the already sputtering U.S. economy.

Futures tied to the Dow Jones Industrial Average
lost 1,069 points, or 2.5%. S&P 500 futures
dropped 3.6%. Nasdaq-100 futures
lost 4.5%.

Shares of multinational companies tumbled in extended trading. Nike
and Apple
each dropped about 7%. Shares of big sellers of imported goods were among the hardest hit. Five Below
lost 14%, Dollar Tree
tumbled 11% and Gap
plunged 8.5%. Tech shares dropped in an overall risk-off mood, with Nvidia
off 5% and Tesla
down 7%.

The White House unveiled a baseline tariff rate of 10% on all countries that goes into effect April 5. Even bigger duties against countries that levy higher rates on the U.S. will be charged in coming days, according to the administration.

“We will charge them approximately half of what they are and have been charging us,” said Trump in a press conference from the White House Rose Garden. “So, the tariffs will be not a full reciprocal.”

That halved figure includes “the combined rate of all their tariffs, non-monetary barriers and other forms of cheating,” he said.

What’s likely spooking traders is that these rates will end up being much higher than expected for many nations. For example, the effective tariff rate for China will now be 54% when accounting for the new reciprocal rate and duties already levied against the country, the White House clarified to CNBC. Traders had hoped a 10%-to-20% rate would be a universally applied cap, not a minimum starting point.

“What was delivered was as haphazard as anything this administration has done to date, and the level of complication on top of the ultimate level of new tariffs is worse than had been feared and not yet priced into the market,” said Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Wealth Management.

The S&P 500 rose for a third day Wednesday on hopes Trump would not announce a severe tariff plan on the risk it would tip the economy into a slowdown and raise already sticky inflation.

The benchmark has been hit hard since late February with it falling into correction territory — or 10% down from its record — because of the heightened uncertainty caused by Trump’s ongoing tariff announcements. This uncertainty has started to show up in some sluggish economic data, which further pressured stocks by heightening recession fears.

“If he would have come in with just the 10%, I think the markets would probably be up quite a bit right now,” said Larry Tentarelli, chief technical strategist at the Blue Chip Trend Report. “But because the tariffs came in bigger than many expected, I think what that does is it creates more downside volatility right now.”

Extrapolating the losses in after hours Wednesday trading, the S&P 500 is on course to fall back into a correction during regular hours trading Thursday.

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President Trump’s ‘haphazard’ tariff delivery has shaken markets, says chief market strategist
The market’s after-hours decline can be attributed to a divergence between what investors were expecting versus President Donald Trump’s tariff policy announcement earlier this afternoon, according to Art Hogan, chief market strategist at B. Riley Wealth Management.

“I think that the market had a modicum of belief that we would have an announcement on tariff and trade that was universally applied and less worse than feared. And I think that was what manifested in markets over the course of the last couple of days,” Hogan told CNBC in an interview.

But instead, it seems like the markets weren’t expecting for President Donald Trump to not only issue a blanket 10% tariff, but additional higher duties for select nations.

“What was delivered was as haphazard as anything this administration has done to date, and the level of complication on top of the ultimate level of new tariffs is worse than had been feared and not yet priced into the market,” Hogan added. “That’s exactly where I think we are right now.”

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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/02/stock-m ... riffs.html
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The level of delusion is breathtaking.

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‘Reciprocal’ Tariffs: See Which Countries Have the Highest Rates
President Trump unveiled sweeping tariffs that included so-called reciprocal actions on dozens of other countries at very high levels.

Trump unveiled sweeping tariffs on Wednesday afternoon, announcing a minimum 10 percent tariff on all trading partners as well as so-called reciprocal actions on dozens of other countries, including some of America’s biggest trading partners.

In announcing the new tariffs, his most expansive to date, Mr. Trump said that the global tariffs would help correct decades of unfair relationships and stop other countries from ripping off the United States.

China, for example, will see its tariff rate rise to 34 percent, which includes a previous blanket import tax imposed on the country’s goods earlier this year. Vietnam’s imports will be taxed at nearly 50 percent.

“If you want your tariff rate to be zero,” Mr. Trump said outside the White House on Wednesday, “then you build your product right here in America.”

Notably absent from Wednesday’s announcement were Mexico and Canada, with whom the United States has long had a free-trade pact. But that does not mean they are immune from the trade actions, a sign of how, combined, all-encompassing Mr. Trump’s policies have become.

Many of the products that come from the two countries have been affected by previously announced tariffs, including those on foreign-made automobiles that go into effect at midnight Eastern time Thursday. Canada, for example, is a huge producer of cars and auto products that are exported to the United States. All finished vehicles from those countries will now be subject to a 25 percent tariff.

By Lazaro Gamio
Lazaro is a graphics editor who has covered tariffs and their effects for years.

April 2, 2025
Updated 6:54 p.m. ET

Full chart at the link.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/02/busi ... chart.html
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Trump announces 10 percent tariffs on all imports, additional taxes for some 60 countries
The nation could see average import taxes reach 1930s levels.

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April 2, 2025 at 4:44 p.m. EDT today at 4:44 p.m. EDT

The announcement is the culmination of weeks of internal discussions among senior Trump officials, who have tried resolving numerous conflicting purposes of the president’s tariff agenda.

Initially, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent pitched the April 2 announcement as creating “reciprocal” tariffs, in which countries could negotiate to have their duties lowered in deals with the White House. But last week, Trump asked advisers why the administration could not impose a simple single flat tariff rate on all countries, perhaps as high as 20 percent, The Washington Post previously reported.

Having one flat tariff rate was also meant to provide an incentive for companies to invest in the United States that would not be later rescinded as part of a deal, an idea Trump had run on during his 2024 presidential campaign. Through this week, Trump officials sought to reconcile their push for a “reciprocal” tariff agenda with the president’s desire for a universal tariff, which could bring in hundreds of billions of revenue to federal coffers.

Meetings late Tuesday involved Bessent, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, Chief of Staff Susie Wiles and senior advisers Peter Navarro and Stephen Miller, according to two people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to reflect private deliberations. White House aides had grown concerned about the potential stock market reaction, said Wilbur Ross, who served as commerce secretary during Trump’s first term. That may explain why the administration did not pursue a 20 percent rate.

“There are some people who want it to be one rate for everywhere, on everything. Others want it everywhere, but by product. And others want it by product and by country. So there’s different ways of trying to accomplish it,” Ross said Wednesday before the official tariff announcement. “They’ve been scurrying around a lot at the last minute.”

In recent days, the administration dismissed increasing concern among investors, economists and some members of the Republican Party about the course Trump has chosen.

“They’re not going to be wrong. It is going to work. And the president has a brilliant team of advisers who have been studying these issues for decades,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters.

Americans are not convinced. In a CBS News-YouGov poll released Monday, 56 percent of adults surveyed opposed new taxes on foreign goods while 44 percent approved of them; 72 percent said they expected that tariffs would mean higher prices in the short term.

The president’s allies, meanwhile, see his economic overhaul in historic terms.

Trump’s goal is to “create an environment where we’re back to where we were before World War I,” said Newt Gingrich, former GOP House speaker. Trump believes the late 19th century was when “we were the strongest economy in the world, largely built around a high tariff, high wage, high manufacturing economy," Gingrich said.

“The current moment represents the “fifth great change in American history,” after the presidencies of Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Gingrich said.

“There’s going to be turmoil; that’s a fact,” he said.


On Tuesday, meanwhile, a gauge of manufacturing activity showed erosion in the nation’s factory sector. The Institute for Supply Management’s closely watched monthly manufacturing index fell from 50.3 in February to 49 in March.

Companies responding to the survey said they were reducing their workforce through layoffs, attrition and hiring freezes, he added.

Los Angeles-based Xos is worried about potential new tariffs that could add $5,000 to $20,000 to the cost of components for the electric commercial vehicles it produces for customers such as FedEx. The company buys battery packs from China, electronics from Europe and motors and inverters from India and China, according to its filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

In little more than 10 weeks, Trump has imposed new import taxes on steel, aluminum, Chinese goods and some products from Canada and Mexico. Taken together, the tariffs already have lifted the nation’s average tariff from around 2.2 percent to about 8 percent, the highest figure in decades.

Depending on the specifics of Trump’s action Wednesday, the United States could soon have tariffs rivaling those enacted by the Tariff Act of 1930, also known as the Smoot-Hawley legislation, which most economists say made the Great Depression worse, according to Neil Shearing, chief economist for Capital Economics in London.

Relative to the size of the U.S. economy, trade is about five times as important as it was at that time, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis and the World Bank.

“The world’s more trade-intensive now. The costs of trade friction are greater,” Shearing said.

On Wall Street, the S&P 500 index has lost 8 percent of its value since mid-February, when the president’s trade offensive intensified. Numerous companies have warned investors that Trump’s tariffs are costing them.

Babcock & Wilcox Enterprises in Akron, Ohio, for example, is seeing tariff bills of $10,000 to $7 million on the equipment it imports for energy and environmental projects, CEO Kenneth Young told investors Monday. The company is in discussions with its customers about how to handle the charges, which are unpredictable given the pace of administration policymaking.

“It changes daily, so who knows?” Young said. “And hopefully, some of these tariffs get removed or get reversed and business goes back to normal. But it’s just a little too early to know.”

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America is not needed as much as this administration thinks it is.
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Owendonovan wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 1:43 am America is not needed as much as this administration thinks it is.
If they want to go back to the pre World War One world view the world will move on.
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Tough language from JPMorgan tonight:

“.. we view the full implementation of these policies as a substantial macro economic shock not currently incorporated in our forecasts. .. these policies, if sustained, would likely push the US and global economy into recession this year.”

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And Scott Bessent continues to openly admit he does not give a (expletive) that the market is rejecting trump 2.0's economic plans at every turn. He gives zero justification why we must endure this financial pain, except to use the tired old maga trope of just wait and see and it'll all be clear someday
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About a quarter of world trade today is services..probably not affected..India is hit with 26% but given that our major competition is China, Vietnam etc .who have been hit with even bigger tariffs, India may actually benefit..at the cost of US consumers..clearly the world has changed since 1930..trade is much more important today than then.
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james surowiecki has discovered where the completely fabricated trump tariff rate has come from for each country

"...for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country's exports to us."

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ashkor87 wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:21 am Most world trade today is services..probably not affected
The manufacturing base is nonexistent in the US. Almost all clothing sold in the US is made overseas.The parts in cars come from overseas. Services may not be directly affected but if the the US economy crashes, and the folks overseas feel that our "services" are unreliable then what? Returning to the pre WWI world is a fantasy.

I read that Japan, China and South Korea are starting their own union of sorts. When traditional enemies start working together despite on going cultural and political differences you know things are serious. That they've just made up numbers makes this even worse.
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This won't make it through the House but it's significant.
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ti-amie wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:24 am hi, no thanks
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"...for every country, they just took our trade deficit with that country and divided it by the country's exports to us."

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Very very interesting..i did wonder...
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Works for india too..deficit was 45 6, imports from India was 87.4......45.6 divided by 87.4 is 52%
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