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Re: Tennis Random, Random
This sort of thing happens too often for my liking. I believe it's the result of the players feeling very entitled and completely immune to any sort of real punishment (the players are so financially rich that any fine for them amounts to pocket change).
The behaviour I'm referring to is players absolutely ridiculing the chair umpire. Not getting angry while disputing a call - but instead trying their best to let the world know that the umpire is a moron. They know they are on a huge stage, and that their antics will be spread far and wide.
This is not right. Argue if you want - present your case in a rational, thoughtful manner - you can even yell. But maintain a decent degree of respect. To do the sort of thing that Medvedev did (see video link below), and that Kyrgios does regularly, and that I've seen others do - is just wrong. It's not 'funny', it's not 'clever' - it's just bad.
Kyrgios did it again on Monday night. Medvedev did it yesterday.
(This isn't even to mention that both Kyrgios and Medvedev have obvious problems identifying gender, with both of them addressing female umpires as 'Bro'...)
Take a look...
Medvedev Ridicules Umpire
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The behaviour I'm referring to is players absolutely ridiculing the chair umpire. Not getting angry while disputing a call - but instead trying their best to let the world know that the umpire is a moron. They know they are on a huge stage, and that their antics will be spread far and wide.
This is not right. Argue if you want - present your case in a rational, thoughtful manner - you can even yell. But maintain a decent degree of respect. To do the sort of thing that Medvedev did (see video link below), and that Kyrgios does regularly, and that I've seen others do - is just wrong. It's not 'funny', it's not 'clever' - it's just bad.
Kyrgios did it again on Monday night. Medvedev did it yesterday.
(This isn't even to mention that both Kyrgios and Medvedev have obvious problems identifying gender, with both of them addressing female umpires as 'Bro'...)
Take a look...
Medvedev Ridicules Umpire
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Okay TATeurs. What say you?
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As a Spanish speaker... it is a bad word. It is not terrible, terrible, but it is bad. By the way, if you go to the bathroom, in Spanish, you don't say "I am going to s***". There is a verb for that.
Reminds me of another incident, also at the Canadian Open. Gaston Gaudio was having a bad day against Rusedski. Basically, he could not return his serve. So he goes over to the back of the court, flips his cap over his eyes (so he can't see where he is), reaches the back stop and says "Que dia de la re- M*****! (What a really s***** day!)
Right over the ambient microphone. Everybody on TV heard it.
Javier Frana, a compatriot of him, saved the day. He just said, after an embarrassing silence: "There are others that are worse".
BTW. In Spanish, we have the REAL ACADEMIA ESPAÑOLA DE LA LENGUA (The Royal Academy of the Language). They have a dictionary, which is the official one. M***** is listed as a profanity.
Sorry, Karen.
Reminds me of another incident, also at the Canadian Open. Gaston Gaudio was having a bad day against Rusedski. Basically, he could not return his serve. So he goes over to the back of the court, flips his cap over his eyes (so he can't see where he is), reaches the back stop and says "Que dia de la re- M*****! (What a really s***** day!)
Right over the ambient microphone. Everybody on TV heard it.
Javier Frana, a compatriot of him, saved the day. He just said, after an embarrassing silence: "There are others that are worse".
BTW. In Spanish, we have the REAL ACADEMIA ESPAÑOLA DE LA LENGUA (The Royal Academy of the Language). They have a dictionary, which is the official one. M***** is listed as a profanity.
Sorry, Karen.
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Oh, it is. I was being my usual IATA and just saying that rules are rules.
But a Russian swearing in Spanish and being caught, the jokes are endless
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So I guess the lesson is to learn some swear words in a language that the chair umpire doesn't know.
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I recall Rublev recently getting a warning or fine for loudly yelling a word in Russian that was not really a profanity (something equivalent to "darn"), so not sure that solves it!
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I agree. There is no real way to police it totally correctly in real time. Someone could say "you're frickin' crazy" instead of we all know what and if the chair umpire were not a native English speaker, or there were crowd noise, the umpire might penalize that player. And as you say, it also depends on the fluency of the chair umpire in a variety of languages. Or what about a word that a non-native speaker doesn't know? If I say "dagnabbit" would a chair umpire know if it's swearing or not, like with your Russian example? And then what about "you suck". I know people who think that's swearing, and others who don't. There is a lot of %&%$@ gray area
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I thought this was pretty funny. They did too. Medvedev was too nice
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Isn't that a direct offense to the umpire? He basically called her stupid.
There was no need for that (Medvedev's comment).
There was no need for that (Medvedev's comment).
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For me there is a difference between saying "That's a stupid call" and "You're stupid." But maybe that's just me.
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Mostly I can handle all insults. But that one I hate the most. So, maybe it is just you, but also, maybe it is just me.
I have actually gone to blows over it.
I have actually gone to blows over it.
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Re: Tennis Random, Random
I know for sure that Tsisipas is going to the locker after every set, regardless of score or result, for a full clothing change. Other players are doing it too, mostly after the second set (if going to a third, of course).
Should the tour regulate this? Just make it five minutes in between sets, and you use them as you want? Maybe fans will like it too, as you have a bit more time to go fetch that beer.
Should the tour regulate this? Just make it five minutes in between sets, and you use them as you want? Maybe fans will like it too, as you have a bit more time to go fetch that beer.
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