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Frightening.
Does anybody know of a survey/poll amongst police officers and gun laws? Are they for, against, don't care? I would gather that, being in a position in which they may encounter fire-power even more powerful than what they carry, they should be for more stringent laws. But, I really have no clue.
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The airline industry, at least in the USA, has to be re-regulated again.
Courtesy of Ronald Reagan, who misread Adam Smith and believed that the "invisible hand" of capitalism was the panacea for all of the world's problems.
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ponchi101 wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 9:36 pm The airline industry, at least in the USA, has to be re-regulated again.
Courtesy of Ronald Reagan, who misread Adam Smith and believed that the "invisible hand" of capitalism was the panacea for all of the world's problems.
You'd probably be paying 70-ties prices for your flights to USA if that were to happen.
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Maybe. And you probably would not go to the airport knowing that the airline can shaft you in any way they want and can, and have basically no rights whatsoever to complain about. In the current model, ALL parties involved in air travel in the USA get shafted, except the airline. Cabin personnel only start cashing a check when the doors are closed, pilots, highly technical personnel that are truly responsible for the safety of 250 people, are underpaid, and airline technical personnel (mechanics and such) are underpaid.
Sure, you can fly across the Atlantic for $99. But the service is basically appalling. Some middle ground could be achieved.
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10-year-old rape victim forced to travel from Ohio to Indiana for abortion
Case places prominent anti-abortion figures in position of balancing rights of women and girls while defending restrictions
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Sun 3 Jul 2022 18.55 BST

The case of a 10-year-old child rape victim in Ohio who was six weeks pregnant, ineligible for an abortion in her own state, and forced to travel to Indiana for the procedure has spotlighted the shocking impact of the US supreme court ruling on abortion.

The story of the girl came to light three days after the court overturned a nationwide right to terminate pregnancy, and Ohio’s six-week “trigger ban” came into effect.

Dr Caitlin Bernard, an Indianapolis obstetrician-gynecologist, said she had received a call from a colleague doctor in Ohio who treats child abuse victims and asked for help. Indiana’s lawmakers have not yet banned or restricted abortion, but they are likely to do so when a special session of the state assembly convenes later this month.

Abortion providers like Bernard say they are receiving a sharp increase in the number of patients coming to their clinics for abortion from the neighboring states where such procedures are now restricted or banned.

“It’s hard to imagine that in just a few short weeks we will have no ability to provide that care,” Bernard told the Columbus Dispatch.

But the case of the 10-year-old girl has placed prominent anti-abortion political figures in the position of balancing the rights of women and girls – including abuse victims – while defending abortion restrictions.

Republican governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota, mentioned as a potential running mate to Donald Trump in 2024, told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday that she found it to be “incredible” that “nobody’s talking about the pervert, horrible and deranged individual that raped a 10-year-old”.

Abortions are now criminal acts in South Dakota “unless there is appropriate and reasonable medical judgment that performance of an abortion is necessary to preserve the life of the pregnant female”. Cases of incest and rape are not an exception under South Dakota’s law as it stands.

On Friday, the state also banned medical abortion by telemedicine and increased the penalty for the unlicensed practice of medicine when performing abortions.

Dana Bash, CNN’S State of the Union host, pressed Noem on whether it was right for a 10-year-old rape victim who was pregnant to have to cross state lines for a legal abortion.

Seeming to try to deflect, Noem said the rape of children is “an issue that the supreme court has weighed … as well”, adding that the public should also be “addressing those sick individuals [who] do this to our children”.

Asked if she would seek to have the law changed if a similar case occurred in her state, Noem replied: “I don’t believe a tragic situation should be perpetuated by another tragedy. There’s more that we have got to do to make sure that we really are living a life that says every life is precious, especially innocent lives that have been shattered, like that 10-year-old girl.”

Asked if the girl should have to have the baby, Noem responded that “every single life – every single life is precious. This tragedy is horrific. But, in South Dakota, the law today is that the abortions are illegal, except to save the life of the mother.”

But asked if allowing an abortion to be be performed on a 10-year-old would be considered as protecting the life of the mother, Noem did not rule out that interpretation.

“Yes, that situation, the doctor, the family, the individuals closest to that will make the decisions there for that family,” she said, returning to the issue that for many Republicans is the central focus of the abortion debate.


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ti-amie wrote: Sun Jul 03, 2022 10:21 pm...
Republican governor Kristi Noem of South Dakota, mentioned as a potential running mate to Donald Trump in 2024, told CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday that she found it to be “incredible” that “nobody’s talking about the pervert, horrible and deranged individual that raped a 10-year-old”...
I thought people had already talked about the "pervert, horrible and deranged individual that raped a 10-yeat-old". What people are also talking about now are the "perverted, horrible and deranged individuals" that have basically banned a procedure that will allow this abused child to start a process to have a normal life. A group that, at the very least, includes two women: ACB and Noem herself.
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Well, this will be an unpopular opinion. But I hope we'll all embrace the complexities involved here.

Obviously, a 10-year-old girl should not be forced to be a mother, regardless of the support system she may, or may not, have available to her.

But at some point--and it should have been long, LONG ago--we really do need to deal with the vast body of males who feel they have uninhibited, full entitlement to the bodies of women and girls. This is an issue that transcends abortion. It also seeps into intimate partner violence, mass murders, and numerous other issues.

Just because the person who said it did so with the intent to deflect or muddy the issue doesn't mean there isn't some merit in the principle.
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My point was: there is no doubt about the consensus that this case is as horrific as it can be. The man that did this to this girl, as far as I am concerned, should not go to prison; he should be sent to some medieval dungeon to rot for life.
But when Noem is using the old fashion tactic of diverting the issue, and she uses this tragedy to do so, she is not being a paragon of virtue.
This is the same thing as when somebody is talking about "rape", and somebody uses the diversionary tactic of start talking about "how about people that are raping the environment". Nobody is denying or even discussing how correct you are about the points you are talking about. But the conversation that was the base at the moment was access to abortion. Where six lunatics have taken women back 50 years, in their fight for their rights.
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https://www.npr.org/2022/07/04/11097005 ... ago-suburb

At least six people are dead and dozens injured following a shooting in Highland Park, Ill., according to a tweeted police statement.

Lake County Sheriff's officials described the suspected shooter as a white male between 18 to 20 years old, long black hair and a small build.

The department said hundreds of law enforcement, including federal partners, remain on the scene searching for the suspect.

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— Lake County Sheriff (@LakeCoILSheriff) July 4, 2022

Witnesses in the area told The Associated Press they saw bloodied bodies covered with blankets.

Lynn Sweet, the Washington bureau chief at the Chicago Sun-Times who was at the parade, captured the chaos that ensued as gunfire erupted in a video.

My video.. I was at #Highland Park parade.. Terrified people fleeing July 4th parade when shooting started. pic.twitter.com/DSe0NJOuem
— Lynn Sweet (@lynnsweet) July 4, 2022

The news outlet reported that a gunman started shooting 10 minutes after the parade started. Several witnesses in the area say they heard multiple shots fired. One told the Sun-Times they counted more than 20 shots fired.

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker told local TV station ABC7 Chicago: "Unfortunately as you may know, we have an active shooter situation in Highland Park at their parade. It's been reported that there have been nine people shot. I'm still getting reports."

In a statement released by the city, officials say the situation is still an "active incident."

This is a developing story.
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Daughter of friends who used to live there is at work, thank goodness; my friends know of one person who has died, when will this end?
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... and a constitution that has a second amendment that starts "A well regulated militia...". The word REGULATED comes before any mentioning of guns or arms.
Sorry to all of you, American friends. What a way to celebrate a 4TH of July.
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There is a video that shows people looking up as they run.
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