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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Scoob wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm
ti-amie wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:59 pm
Scoob wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:53 pm
Now it looks like she has started the 2nd set the same way she started the 2nd set in a 0-2 hole.
And has just broken back.
It would be a real shock if she rolls off another 6 games and mirrors the 1st set.
I was just going to say that if Kovinic doesn't hold here this match is pretty much done. She didn't and Raducanu is up 3-2.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ti-amie wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:08 pm
Scoob wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:01 pm
ti-amie wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 9:59 pm

And has just broken back.
It would be a real shock if she rolls off another 6 games and mirrors the 1st set.
I was just going to say that if Kovinic doesn't hold here this match is pretty much done. She didn't and Raducanu is up 3-2.
Raducanu is up 4-2 now. It does look like Kovinic holds to get to 4-3 and only a break down.
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Uh don't look at Marino's match Canadians. Vondrousova is romping right now.
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ti-amie wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:30 pm Uh don't look at Marino's match Canadians. Vondrousova is romping right now.
Marino won't win if she keeps serving her 1st serve at 43%.
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We have been a bit on the down side with Emma for a while now, and we can't be blamed. She has done very little as of late.
But she is still a USO Champ, and we saw her game in 2021. She can play. So, maybe after the mother of all sophomore jinxes is over, she may be ready to re-enter the conversation.
I hope so. And Kovinic is not an easy out, so that is a good win. Linette, next in line, is a winnable match.
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Until the situation improves, it looks like 2021 USO will be a fluke for Raducanu
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Sure. But, as I said when she won. NO player has ever won a slam before turning 20 that did not win at least another one, in the WTA. For the men, only Chang.
She has a long career ahead of her. I can wait.
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ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:28 pm Sure. But, as I said when she won. NO player has ever won a slam before turning 20 that did not win at least another one, in the WTA. For the men, only Chang.
She has a long career ahead of her. I can wait.
Plus wasn't she also either a Wild card or a Qualifier when she won the US Open?
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I don't think it's completely over for Raducanu, but she does need to grow up and leave her helicopter parents on the sidelines.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Scoob wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:43 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:28 pm Sure. But, as I said when she won. NO player has ever won a slam before turning 20 that did not win at least another one, in the WTA. For the men, only Chang.
She has a long career ahead of her. I can wait.
Plus wasn't she also either a Wild card or a Qualifier when she won the US Open?
Qualifier. And, she didn't drop a set in any of her matches.
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nelslus wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:53 pm
Scoob wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:43 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:28 pm Sure. But, as I said when she won. NO player has ever won a slam before turning 20 that did not win at least another one, in the WTA. For the men, only Chang.
She has a long career ahead of her. I can wait.
Plus wasn't she also either a Wild card or a Qualifier when she won the US Open?
Qualifier. And, she didn't drop a set in any of her matches.
That is having to play a lot of matches in a two week period and she was 18 years old at the time. That feat was completely unexpected. I think if she just had a normal US Open that year and went onto play out her career to where she is right now, I think we all would have a totally different perspective on her game and outlook on her game.

She is only 20 years old and has a lot more time for improvement in her game.It is totally up to her and the people she surrounds herself with if she does improve and moves up.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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JTContinental wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:52 pm I don't think it's completely over for Raducanu, but she does need to grow up and leave her helicopter parents on the sidelines.
I said it before. She MUST talk to Caro Garcia (for whom it might have been too late).
Actually, Caroline could make a killing talking to a lot of players. But I digress.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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ponchi101 wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:01 pm We have been a bit on the down side with Emma for a while now, and we can't be blamed. She has done very little as of late.
But she is still a USO Champ, and we saw her game in 2021. She can play. So, maybe after the mother of all sophomore jinxes is over, she may be ready to re-enter the conversation.
I hope so. And Kovinic is not an easy out, so that is a good win. Linette, next in line, is a winnable match.
I'm down on her because she has been relentlessly shoved down my throat even after she did jacksh!t after that USO win. I didn't have any true dislike for her and still don't, but I became very annoyed with the way they were force feeding her to me and it became entirely too much. And really, if people will remember, it started at Wimbledon, not at the US Open. I think it was Mubadala Open in CA where they gave her a wild card and there were a healthy number of replies that were like, it's fine to give her a wild card, but don't announce it like some HOF just said yes, which they indeed had done. It was a lot. And it got appreciably worse after the US Open. Had she kept winning, a la Bianca, then so be it. But she didn't. And it's not like she torched thru some murderer's row to get her US Open title either. It made it worse especially because it was like they weren't watching her matches as they kept acting like she was looking amazing out there and she didn't. She wasn't just losing after the USO, she couldn't rack up a win against a player in the top 50 I believe. I think it took her well into 2022 before that occurred. She had an epic two weeks in NYC for sure, but that's it. Others who have won titles haven't gotten even a tenth of this kind of PR from the various organizations.

Let her quietly get back into the conversation on her own, don't overstate her wins when she does get them, and if she does something actually noteworthy, then let me know. People, me included, will be more open to her if they just let her win over fans on her own, without the aggressive assist from the organizations desperate for her to take off.
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Re: ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

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Galfi win the USO junior title in 2015...usually,junior champions start making their mark about 3 years later...she is a bit late, but maybe covid and lockdown can be blamed .2 years grace...
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