ATP M1000 WTA 1000 BNP Paribas Open 3/8 - 3/19 2023

[Deuce]

Shapovalov is out in straight sets to Humbert.
Denis continues to waste his natural talent.

[Scoob]

I have no idea what needs to be done with Shapo. He certainly has the game to beat the players he is losing to and to challenge even the top players and go far into these types of tournaments and here we are again he is out right away. I shake my head because he has the talent to put it all together. Yet it never seems to get done.

[Deuce]

Bucsa is playing really well in the 2nd set vs. Gauff.

Kalinskaya up 4-2 over Pliskova, 1st set...

[JazzNU]

I wouldn't even call Rogers over sakkari an upset...I am not surprised at Tsitsi losing, either...except for the AO, where he did well, hard courts are not his best surface...his topspin makes the ball sit up and beg to be hit...

Just to elaborate...Rogers is probably the best of the second tier of US players, powerful (which helps on this slooow surface) and is a big match player, afraid of noone.

Rogers over Sakkari is an upset if it had happened, which it didn't. The way people view Rogers continues to be wildly out of whack. She's like Ajla Tomljanovic in many ways. She's well known name by most tennis fans, but has done very little in the grand scheme of things and has never been ranked as highly as people perceive her to have been. A big match player is a good way to think of her, but also one with little to show for those big match wins except for apparently making fans believe she's going to follow up those wins and making them forget she rarely ever does.

[Scoob]

I wouldn't even call Rogers over sakkari an upset...I am not surprised at Tsitsi losing, either...except for the AO, where he did well, hard courts are not his best surface...his topspin makes the ball sit up and beg to be hit...

Just to elaborate...Rogers is probably the best of the second tier of US players, powerful (which helps on this slooow surface) and is a big match player, afraid of noone.

Rogers over Sakkari is an upset if it had happened, which it didn't. The way people view Rogers continues to be wildly out of whack. She's like Ajla Tomljanovic in many ways. She's well known name by most tennis fans, but has done very little in the grand scheme of things and has never been ranked as highly as people perceive her to have been. A big match player is a good way to think of her, but also one with little to show for those big match wins except for apparently making fans believe she's going to follow up those wins and making them forget she rarely ever does.

I really think all the stop and starts with the rain delays hurt her tonight and she lost her rhythm. Just before the 3rd delay she had just broken Sakkari early in the 2nd set after winning the 1st set. Once they came back from that rain delay she could not get it together.

[Deuce]

Kalinskaya won the 1st set 6-2 over Pliskova, who didn't hold serve once.
Kalinskaya's face bears a striking resemblance to the face of Genie Bouchard, who I believe also played tennis at one time...

Alexandrova out in straight sets to Xinyu Wang...

[JazzNU]

It's raining.

wow! in a desert? Was Alexander the Great passing through?

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/10/weather/ ... index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/06/weather/ ... index.html
San Bernardino area isn't that far from Indian Wells...

Yes, California weather has been crazy lately, rapidly reversing extreme drought conditions. But, San Bernardino is not near Indian Wells fwiw. Completely different areas.

[Scoob]

M. Berrettini out in 3 sets to T. Daniel.

[nelslus]

I wouldn't even call Rogers over sakkari an upset...I am not surprised at Tsitsi losing, either...except for the AO, where he did well, hard courts are not his best surface...his topspin makes the ball sit up and beg to be hit...

Just to elaborate...Rogers is probably the best of the second tier of US players, powerful (which helps on this slooow surface) and is a big match player, afraid of noone.

Rogers over Sakkari is an upset if it had happened, which it didn't. The way people view Rogers continues to be wildly out of whack. She's like Ajla Tomljanovic in many ways. She's well known name by most tennis fans, but has done very little in the grand scheme of things and has never been ranked as highly as people perceive her to have been. A big match player is a good way to think of her, but also one with little to show for those big match wins except for apparently making fans believe she's going to follow up those wins and making them forget she rarely ever does.

LOL, now, don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

I mean, to be perfectly fair- Shelby has made two Slam singles QF's- AND, of all things, two Slam doubles QF's- Australian Open and French Open. But, I actually did not realize the highest Shelby has ever gotten in the rankings is #30. There you go. Plus, in their two matches, Shelby has beaten Petra in two Slam matches (but then again, who hasn't??). So, any Shelby snark is appreciated.

And, sure, Tomljanovic's peak was at #33 (bragging rights, Shelby!!!!), and she has two Slam QF singles and one Slam QF result. But, Alja banged Matteo. If THAT doesn't get you in the HOF, I don't know what would.

[Deuce]

Berrettini very deliberately did not shake the umpire's hand after the match.
He stared down the umpire after he shook Daniel's hand, then walked right past him. I don't know the reason, as I didn't see the match.

This refusing to shake hands thing is apparently going 'viral'!

[texasniteowl]

Yes, California weather has been crazy lately, rapidly reversing extreme drought conditions. But, San Bernardino is not near Indian Wells fwiw. Completely different areas.

I'm not saying they are directly next door, but unless I'm doing something wrong in google maps, it's only 76 miles from Indian Wells to San Bernardino? So snow in the mountains above SB and rain in the other seems related with the craziness they are getting? Indian Wells is just south east of Palm Springs, right? On I-10?

[Deuce]

The WTA's answer to Fognini - Camila Giorgi - took the 1st set from Pegula 6-3.
But Pegula easily took the 2nd, 6-1.
Like Fabio, Camila is capable of great tennis and terrible tennis - and anything in between - it depends on how much effort she wants to give at any particular time.
Starting the 3rd now...

Noskova won the 1st set tiebreak over Anisimova... Starting the 2nd now.

Pliskova ran over Kalinskaya 6-0 in the 2nd, and finished it off 6-4 in the 3rd.

Nakashima played well, but, unsurprisingly, it wasn't good enough - Medvedev in straight sets...
Tiafoe over Giron easily...
And Rublev in straight sets over Lehecka.

[Deuce]

Anisimova's struggles continue - out to Noskova in straight sets (6-3 in the 2nd).
Many people (still) talk about Amanda's talent - that's been going on for a few years now, without any significant results on her part. At what point will people start to give up on her? I think that time draws nearer and nearer with each passing tournament these days.
To my eye, she simply doesn't have the commitment or dedication to tennis to rise to the level of what people say her talent is and to be a top player. She is also prone to not be emotionally strong during matches and to be very emotional and allow her negative emotions to affect her play.

Like her Italian compatriot Fabio, Giorgi produced some flashes of brilliance throughout the match... but, again like Fabio, there were too many lulls, and Pegula won - 6-2 in the 3rd.

[mick1303]

Until the situation improves, it looks like 2021 USO will be a fluke for Raducanu

Or maybe she'll still have more success in the tournaments that utilize lighter balls for WTA than for ATP (like US Open). And I reckon it is not a majority of tournaments.

[mick1303]

Would that disrespect/non- handshake/non-acknowledgement have occurred if Kostyuk's nonsense had not been accepted by the WTA?

Hmmmm...

Other players see that Kostyuk is getting away with totally disrespecting selected opponents without any punishment - so what's to stop players from deciding that they, too, have a 'justifiable reason' to show no respect for their opponent, as well?
If they are threatened with punishment, they need only point to Kostyuk's behaviour being accepted.

The WTA better be very, very careful with this - because Kostyuk's behaviour, apart from being bush-league, sets an ugly and unwanted precedent.

It is debatable what is an "ugly and unwanted precedent" - Kostyuk not shaking hands with Russians, or WTA/ATP permitting Russians to play and then pay taxes to their government from prize money, financing the terror Russia conducts. Just 2 days ago they launched another missile attack, destroying 4 power grid nodes in Kharkov only and damaging the fossil power plant. I was 44 hours straight without electricity, which is merely an inconvenience. But some people were killed.