But if they become 96 players draws, don't you now have 32 1R byes?skatingfan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:26 pmIt's now only for this year, and next year because in 2025 this tournament, and Cincinnati will be 10 events with 96 player draws.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:18 pm Exactly. It's so the top 8 seeds can have a bye and only play 5 rounds to win. But most players don't reach the finals and would only play 2-4 rounds anyway, so the byes seem silly to me.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Yup, but it will be something different for people to complain about for many years to come.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
It can also help on the front end of the tournament, as the top 8 seeds are also those most likely to be playing deep into the draw at the previous week's tournament(s), so it give them a day or two to fly to the new city and get comfortable with the courts.skatingfan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:26 pmmeganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:18 pm Exactly. It's so the top 8 seeds can have a bye and only play 5 rounds to win. But most players don't reach the finals and would only play 2-4 rounds anyway, so the byes seem silly to me.
It's now only for this year, and next year because in 2025 this tournament, and Cincinnati will be 10 events with 96 player draws.
Yes, it will be the same as Indian Wells and Miami have been for years. Madrid and Rome have also already switched over to a 96-player draw format.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Badosa pulled out already..gossip mill says she is headed for Toronto!
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Day 4 Order of Play
Court Central Starts at 12:30 PM
DEN C. WOZNIACKI vs AUS K. BIRRELL
FOLLOWED BY
CAN L. FERNANDEZ vs USA P. STEARNS
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM
ITA C. GIORGI vs CAN B. ANDREESCU
FOLLOWED BY
USA J. BRADY vs KAZ E. RYBAKINA (3)
Court Rogers Starts at 11:00 AM
USA D. COLLINS vs UKR E. SVITOLINA
SUSPENDED
Round of 64
BEL E. MERTENS vs RUS D. KASATKINA (10)
4 - -
4 - -
FOLLOWED BY
BRA B. HADDAD MAIA (11) vs POL M. FRECH
NOT BEFORE 4:30 PM
CZE M. VONDROUSOVA (9) vs EGY M. SHERIF
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM
FRA C. GARCIA (5) vs CZE M. BOUZKOVA
FOLLOWED BY
BLR V. AZARENKA (16) vs USA S. STEPHENS
Court 9 Starts at 11:00 AM
RUS L. SAMSONOVA (15) vs CZE K. SINIAKOVA
FOLLOWED BY
RUS A. POTAPOVA vs CZE K. MUCHOVA (14)
FOLLOWED BY
UKR M. KOSTYUK vs CHN Q. ZHENG
FOLLOWED BY
CRO P. MARTIC vs UKR L. TSURENKO
FOLLOWED BY
UKR L. KICHENOK/LAT J. OSTAPENKO (6) vs CAN E. BOUCHARD/CAN R. MARINO
Court 5 Starts at 11:00 AM
USA A. PARKS vs USA L. DAVIS
FOLLOWED BY
USA B. PERA vs KAZ Y. PUTINTSEVA
FOLLOWED BY
RUS A. BLINKOVA vs CHN S. ZHANG
FOLLOWED BY
USA C. GAUFF/USA J. PEGULA (1) vs JPN M. KATO/INA A. SUTJIADI
FOLLOWED BY
CZE K. PLISKOVA/CRO D. VEKIC vs CAN G. DABROWSKI/NZL E. ROUTLIFFE
Court 6 Starts at 11:00 AM
TPE L. CHAN/CHN Z. YANG vs TPE H. CHAN/MEX G. OLMOS (8)
FOLLOWED BY
NOR U. EIKERI/EST I. NEEL vs CHI A. GUARACHI/ROU M. NICULESCU
Court Central Starts at 12:30 PM
DEN C. WOZNIACKI vs AUS K. BIRRELL
FOLLOWED BY
CAN L. FERNANDEZ vs USA P. STEARNS
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM
ITA C. GIORGI vs CAN B. ANDREESCU
FOLLOWED BY
USA J. BRADY vs KAZ E. RYBAKINA (3)
Court Rogers Starts at 11:00 AM
USA D. COLLINS vs UKR E. SVITOLINA
SUSPENDED
Round of 64
BEL E. MERTENS vs RUS D. KASATKINA (10)
4 - -
4 - -
FOLLOWED BY
BRA B. HADDAD MAIA (11) vs POL M. FRECH
NOT BEFORE 4:30 PM
CZE M. VONDROUSOVA (9) vs EGY M. SHERIF
NOT BEFORE 7:00 PM
FRA C. GARCIA (5) vs CZE M. BOUZKOVA
FOLLOWED BY
BLR V. AZARENKA (16) vs USA S. STEPHENS
Court 9 Starts at 11:00 AM
RUS L. SAMSONOVA (15) vs CZE K. SINIAKOVA
FOLLOWED BY
RUS A. POTAPOVA vs CZE K. MUCHOVA (14)
FOLLOWED BY
UKR M. KOSTYUK vs CHN Q. ZHENG
FOLLOWED BY
CRO P. MARTIC vs UKR L. TSURENKO
FOLLOWED BY
UKR L. KICHENOK/LAT J. OSTAPENKO (6) vs CAN E. BOUCHARD/CAN R. MARINO
Court 5 Starts at 11:00 AM
USA A. PARKS vs USA L. DAVIS
FOLLOWED BY
USA B. PERA vs KAZ Y. PUTINTSEVA
FOLLOWED BY
RUS A. BLINKOVA vs CHN S. ZHANG
FOLLOWED BY
USA C. GAUFF/USA J. PEGULA (1) vs JPN M. KATO/INA A. SUTJIADI
FOLLOWED BY
CZE K. PLISKOVA/CRO D. VEKIC vs CAN G. DABROWSKI/NZL E. ROUTLIFFE
Court 6 Starts at 11:00 AM
TPE L. CHAN/CHN Z. YANG vs TPE H. CHAN/MEX G. OLMOS (8)
FOLLOWED BY
NOR U. EIKERI/EST I. NEEL vs CHI A. GUARACHI/ROU M. NICULESCU
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Byes are a part of the inequities in pay, the top ranked players already get the 2nd round minimum and likely need that money less than the lower ranked players. A bit lame to me.
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Great point. And it's not like the six-match format affects many players. Most won't get to the semis and finals. Only 4 players are going to have to play 5 or 6 matches, so the workload factor doesn't seem significant.Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:54 pm Byes are a part of the inequities in pay, the top ranked players already get the 2nd round minimum and likely need that money less than the lower ranked players. A bit lame to me.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Common sense says it, too. She probably thinks practicing with Tsitispas is a decent substitute for playing a tournament. They'll be together in Cincy and New York, but they have to go separate ways at some point.
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When the top player in the world decided to skip the whole hard court circuit because of "fatigue", when he has only played 14 matches in over 2 months, you can see that the concept of "excessive workload" has changed considerably.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:34 pmGreat point. And it's not like the six-match format affects many players. Most won't get to the semis and finals. Only 4 players are going to have to play 5 or 6 matches, so the workload factor doesn't seem significant.Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:54 pm Byes are a part of the inequities in pay, the top ranked players already get the 2nd round minimum and likely need that money less than the lower ranked players. A bit lame to me.
Part of the "prima donna-sation" of the top players.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Novak's also 36 years old - the body doesn't recover as quickly at that age.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:45 pm When the top player in the world decided to skip the whole hard court circuit because of "fatigue", when he has only played 14 matches in over 2 months, you can see that the concept of "excessive workload" has changed considerably.
Part of the "prima donna-sation" of the top players.
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I was only using him as an example. It is a phenomenon in all sports, and one that I do not agree with.skatingfan wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 4:06 pm ...
Novak's also 36 years old - the body doesn't recover as quickly at that age.
I know I am alone in that opinion, but I find it too pampering for the top sports figures.
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Re: WTA 1000 Montréal 8/7 - 8/13 2023
Coco had an interesting comment on her opponents' plans to attack her forehand - now that she is hitting it better, they keep looking at their box because they dont know what to do ! good way to frustrate your oponents! it was all too easy earlier.. wont be any more, we hope.
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Wozniacki is back! She just walked onto court. I was never a huge fan, but it's still a nice moment and great for tennis.
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She won 2&2. Aside from some great shots Elina looked lost out there.
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