ATP Finals Turin 11/12 - 11/19 2023

[ashkor87]

Who'll win the final now? I think it's pretty close, but small edge to the old guy. He just knows how to bring these things home.

I would still bet on Sinner..the court is fast, the crowd will support him and he seems to have made the improvement needed...

[ashkor87]

Meanwhile I really need to figure out why Alcaraz doesn't play well on fast courts...

[dryrunguy]

Meanwhile I really need to figure out why Alcaraz doesn't play well on fast courts...

I thought his match against Medvedev was probably the best match he played in a really long time. He plays extremely well on fast courts.

What bothered me today was the degree to which he just... quit. After he didn't break back in Novak's 3-2 service game in the second, he just quit, which was probably cumulative from not breaking in the opening game of the match--not to mention getting broken a few more times. On a few occasions late in the match, when Novak his first serves that were called out, Carlitos was already walking to the other side of his court to receive and had to go back to where he was to receive a second serve. And his barking to his box late in the second was downright Murray-esque. He was more out of sorts than I have ever seen him be. It was hard to watch. And disappointing.

But Novak does that to people. Today, Novak was just plain surgical. And euthanizistic. (Yes, I just created a word.)

[ashkor87]

Yes, Djokovic breaks your spirit, not just your serve..apparently Kyrgios said Djoko is the greatest player to ever walk the earth ..surprising, ..considering he was not a fan..in fact owns a 2-1 head to head record against him.

[meganfernandez]

Yes, Djokovic breaks your spirit, not just your serve..apparently Kyrgios said Djoko is the greatest player to ever walk the earth ..surprising, ..considering he was not a fan..in fact owns a 2-1 head to head record against him.

Kyrgios seemed to become a fan at Wimbledon, joking about how they would go partying together after the final (to which Djokovic laughed and said, "in your dreams.") I guess he changed his tune.

[meganfernandez]

Meanwhile I really need to figure out why Alcaraz doesn't play well on fast courts...

I thought his match against Medvedev was probably the best match he played in a really long time. He plays extremely well on fast courts.

What bothered me today was the degree to which he just... quit. After he didn't break back in Novak's 3-2 service game in the second, he just quit, which was probably cumulative from not breaking in the opening game of the match--not to mention getting broken a few more times. On a few occasions late in the match, when Novak his first serves that were called out, Carlitos was already walking to the other side of his court to receive and had to go back to where he was to receive a second serve. And his barking to his box late in the second was downright Murray-esque. He was more out of sorts than I have ever seen him be. It was hard to watch. And disappointing.

But Novak does that to people. Today, Novak was just plain surgical. And euthanizistic. (Yes, I just created a word.)

If you're going to keep making up great words, you'll have to start popping up more in the threads I read. I never see you anymore!

Great analysis, makes me want to watch the replay and notice these things. I didn't see the match.

[ashkor87]

Ram and Salisbury have won the doubles,!! I wonder how Sock is making out with pickle ball..

[meganfernandez]

Ram and Salisbury have won the doubles,!! I wonder how Sock is making out with pickle ball..

You're the only one thinking about Jack Sock. Ram and Salisbury are 10-0 in Turin in the past two years. The winning team gets $350,000 but $940,000 if they go undefeated. That's a huge increase.

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[ti-amie]

[Suliso]

I was right about Djokovic and it wasn't even close...

[ti-amie]

[ashkor87]

I was right about Djokovic and it wasn't even close...

Yes, you were. Djokovic can adapt to any surface, he stands alone in that respect...

[ashkor87]

Ram and Salisbury have won the doubles,!! I wonder how Sock is making out with pickle ball..

You're the only one thinking about Jack Sock. Ram and Salisbury are 10-0 in Turin in the past two years.


Yes probably because Ram is of Indian origin. I have been tracking him since his heroics at the Orange Bowl as a junior

[meganfernandez]

Ram and Salisbury have won the doubles,!! I wonder how Sock is making out with pickle ball..

You're the only one thinking about Jack Sock. Ram and Salisbury are 10-0 in Turin in the past two years.


Yes probably because Ram is of Indian origin. I have been tracking him since his heroics at the Orange Bowl as a junior

I didn't know about these Orange Bowl heroics! What happened?

[ashkor87]

He won the Easter Bowl, actually, the under18 title- also was under 14 national champ.. very promising as a junior, didn't do as well in pro singles, probably because he is a bit slow on his feet?