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Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:04 pm
by JazzNU
Even though the US did stick with the 2-dose approach because that's what the clinical trials supported. There were a decent number public health and doctors panicking earlier this year and pushing for a change to this approach, so we potentially could've been in the same tough spot.
This Delta variant may well get us to herd immunity. The more stories come out about the difference between one shot and two, the more likely those one dose people rush back in for their second even though it's a couple of months later than it was originally scheduled.
We're gonna get a boost in the next two months anyway because of students, especially college students getting them as required by their universities to return to campus. But thinking the boost will be higher than I thought. A decent number of schools were trying to punt and wait for full FDA approval to go through, and they may not be able to pretend that's soon enough anymore.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:51 pm
by Deuce
The head coach of the Montreal Canadiens NHL hockey team has tested positive for COVID-19.
Some medical professionals are saying that it is conceivable that he could have contracted the virus during one of the two games played in Las Vegas, as, with 18,000 UNMASKED fans in the indoor arena, and no verification of negative testing or vaccinated status having been done among the fans upon entering the arena, the air inside the arena could have contained enough contaminated particles (aerosols) to infect someone.
The possibility of him having been contaminated during the games was raised because of the timing of the positive test, as well as that the team was restricted to the arena and the hotel while in Vegas.
Of course, it's unlikely that it can ever be determined exactly how he contracted the virus - but several medical professionals are saying that the above is a possible scenario.
This would seem to confirm, then, that parts of the U.S. are completely crazy in lifting essentially all protections and behaving as if the virus no longer exists.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:52 pm
by ti-amie
Deuce wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:51 pm
The head coach of the Montreal Canadiens NHL hockey team has tested positive for COVID-19.
Some medical professionals are saying that it is conceivable that he could have contracted the virus during one of the two games played in Las Vegas, as, with 18,000 UNMASKED fans in the indoor arena, and no verification of negative testing or vaccinated status having been done among the fans upon entering the arena, the air inside the arena could have contained enough contaminated particles (aerosols) to infect someone.
The possibility of him having been contaminated during the games was raised because of the timing of the positive test, as well as that the team was restricted to the arena and the hotel while in Vegas.
Of course, it's unlikely that it can ever be determined exactly how he contracted the virus - but several medical professionals are saying that the above is a possible scenario.
This would seem to confirm, then, that parts of the U.S. are completely crazy in lifting essentially all protections and behaving as if the virus no longer exists.
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Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:55 pm
by Suliso
Is it known whether the coach was fully vaccinated?
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:08 am
by ti-amie
Suliso wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:55 pm
Is it known whether the coach was fully vaccinated?
He got the second shot but he hadn't made it to two weeks after to get out and about.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 12:14 am
by Deuce
Suliso wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:55 pm
Is it known whether the coach was fully vaccinated?
Yes - he was fully vaccinated... BUT he received his 2nd dose of the vaccine only 8 days ago, and it takes 14 to 21 days after vaccination for the vaccine to be fully effective.
I've not seen anywhere where it identifies which 'brand' of vaccine he received.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 1:50 pm
by Suliso
My city is currently the best in Switzerland in vaccination against covid. As of Friday 32% of all population has been fully vaccinated and another 15% (including myself) have received the first dose. For comparison the worst region is 21+18% and Zurich, the most populous district, is 26+19%.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:03 pm
by ponchi101
Even though that is good news, serious question here: isn't Switzerland a pharmaceutical powerhouse? You should be able to produce enough vaccines to cover all your population (quick Google tells me Switzerland is a bit under 9MM). Or do we go back to the fact that the technology needed for this vaccine is very high?
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:15 pm
by Suliso
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:03 pm
Even though that is good news, serious question here: isn't Switzerland a pharmaceutical powerhouse? You should be able to produce enough vaccines to cover all your population (quick Google tells me Switzerland is a bit under 9MM). Or do we go back to the fact that the technology needed for this vaccine is very high?
We'll cover all the population, it just takes some time. We don't have any home developed vaccines, but Moderna is mostly manufactured in Switzerland for the European market. Currently about 60% of doses used is this vaccine the rest being German manufactured Pfizer/BioNTech.
Local authorities are really going by the book here. Only the two most efficient vaccines used and the second dose comes exactly like prescribed (3 weeks for Pfizer, 4 for Moderna). I think in the longer run this will be better than all the experiments UK undertook. The vaccine has been available to all age groups for about six weeks now.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:21 pm
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:15 pm
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We'll cover all the population, it just takes some time. We don't have any home developed vaccines, but Moderna is mostly manufactured in Switzerland for the European market. Currently about 60% of doses used is this vaccine the rest being German manufactured Pfizer/BioNTech.
Local authorities are really going by the book here. Only the two most efficient vaccines used and the second dose comes exactly like prescribed (3 weeks for Pfizer, 4 for Moderna). I think in the longer run this will be better than all the experiments UK undertook. The vaccine has been available to all age groups for about six weeks now.
The Swiss going by the book?
Get out of here!!!
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:18 pm
by Togtdyalttai
I went to a grocery store today for the first time since CA's restrictions loosened. The percentage of people wearing masks has declined noticeably, from nearly 100 to just above 50 by my estimation. Probably not a big deal because cases are at around 2/100,000/day and there's 84% with at least one shot, 67% fully vaccinated, but it was different to see.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:24 pm
by Suliso
Below is the current vaccination situation in Switzerland by age groups. Dark green is two doses and light green only one.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:29 pm
by ponchi101
Meanwhile, at the other end of efficiency and proper management of this pandemic, Brasil has hit 500K deaths.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:36 pm
by Suliso
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:29 pm
Meanwhile, at the other end of efficiency and proper management of this pandemic, Brasil has hit 500K deaths.
Is that including estimation of all the unofficial deaths? I believe the "leader" is currently India with 2-2.5 million deaths.
Re: Covid-19 Updates & Info
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:44 pm
by ponchi101
Well, we know that the real tallies are not accurate. The number I read was the official one, from the Brazilian government, so it could be anywhere from 1/2 the real number to even more distorted figures.
India we know has no idea of how many people have died.