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Vondrousova is in the forties before W so ' will drop?' I was a bit startled ....

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 4:31 am Vondrousova is in the forties before W so ' will drop?' I was a bit startled ....

She's currently #23 in the live rankings, so it would be a drop because Svitolina, currently #27 in the live rankings, would move past her to #21.

Aah! Live rankings..thanks..

See Swiatek will remain at number one for a few more weeks thanks to Jabeur.

The modern WTA.
Three slams for the year. 6 finalists.
No such thing as The Big Any Number.

patrick wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 5:03 pm See Swiatek will remain at number one for a few more weeks thanks to Jabeur.

Till after USO most likely

Why after? She is defending those 2000 points there. Failure to do that and the change could happen.
Or am I missing some numbers?

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:56 pm Why after? She is defending those 2000 points there. Failure to do that and the change could happen.
Or am I missing some numbers?

The points don't come off until after the tournament finishes, but setting the US Open aside for a moment both players have opportunities to gain points in the summer though Sabalenka has a few more points to defend than Swiatek.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:56 pm Why after? She is defending those 2000 points there. Failure to do that and the change could happen.
Or am I missing some numbers?

I meant that Swiatek likely stays at #1 until after her USO points are gone. Obviously could also be much longer than that if she outplays Sabalenka during the summer and at USO, but that we don't know yet.

There is something I don't understand looking at the current live ranking. All 4 of Alcaraz, Djokovic, Medvedev and Sinner reached semis and suppose to have equal added points, given that there should not be points subtracted from last year (Wimbledon gave no points last year and there are no other tour events during this time). But they show +630 for Sinner and Medvedev and +720 for Alcaraz and Djokovic. Why?

mick1303 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:27 am There is something I don't understand looking at the current live ranking. All 4 of Alcaraz, Djokovic, Medvedev and Sinner reached semis and suppose to have equal added points, given that there should not be points subtracted from last year (Wimbledon gave no points last year and there are no other tour events during this time). But they show +630 for Sinner and Medvedev and +720 for Alcaraz and Djokovic. Why?

Because not only did they not give points last year, but they removed Wimbledon from the mandatory position in the ranking system. So if you look at Medvedev's ranking for example you will see he gets 90 points from an ATP 250 called Adelaide 1 under 'Best of Other Countable Tournaments' , and now that Wimbledon is added on as a Mandatory tournament that 90 points drops from his rankings. 720 for semifinals - minus 90 = 630
https://www.atptour.com/en/players/dani ... -breakdown

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Vondrousova joins the top 10 for the first time.

Somewhat surprisingly Gauff kept her rankings spot despite losing in the first round.

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Jul 15, 2023 4:46 pm Vondrousova joins the top 10 for the first time.

Somewhat surprisingly Gauff kept her rankings spot despite losing in the first round.

She got a little help from Sakkari losing in the first round and Kasatkina losing in the third round and also some players losing points for the reason Skatingfan explained above.

Now that Wimpy points have been added, do we find the ranking more honestly reflective of the ability of the player according to their current ranking?