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Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 2:58 pm
by ponchi101
I say that it should follow logically. The lack of points last year distorted the rankings.
If Alcaraz wins, he will be reigning USO and Wimby champ. A worthy #1. If Djokovic wins, no discussion.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 3:45 pm
by skatingfan
The most interesting thing about the rankings post Wimbledon is that unless Djokovic wins this match there will no changes in the top 13. Tommy Paul moves up to a new career high at #14 will be the first change.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:18 pm
by ashkor87
I am actually surprised Djokovic would not play Toronto..since he did not play this swing at all last year, he has no points to defend.. and every point helps, doesnt it? unless he is so confident or so focused on the USO he doesnt care about ranking? he has said only the grand slams matter, so maybe that is what it is..
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:47 pm
by ponchi101
He does not care about the ranking anymore. He is citing fatigue as his reason for not playing. Really? He has played 14 matches between Wimby and RG.
He is only focused now on Slams. He wants 24, and he wants 25 to settle any possible doubt. My only issue is that, as I have said before, that strategy is dubious to me; NOTHING can replace time on court VS real peers. There is no way you can emulate a real 3 sets of actual play with 3 sets of training.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:36 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:47 pm
He does not care about the ranking anymore. He is citing fatigue as his reason for not playing. Really? He has played 14 matches between Wimby and RG.
He is only focused now on Slams. He wants 24, and he wants 25 to settle any possible doubt. My only issue is that, as I have said before, that strategy is dubious to me; NOTHING can replace time on court VS real peers. There is no way you can emulate a real 3 sets of actual play with 3 sets of training.
Agree that he doesn't care about the ranking. He wants as many Slams as he can eke out. I think he still cares about competing and getting the best out of his body, the challenge that comes with that. He wants to compete with this new generation.
Fatigue can be shorthand for "I don't want to." We all know that.
He will probably play Cincinnati. But don't you think champions know how to best prepare? He's not going to imperil his chances.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:45 pm
by nelslus
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 5:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:47 pm
He does not care about the ranking anymore. He is citing fatigue as his reason for not playing. Really? He has played 14 matches between Wimby and RG.
He is only focused now on Slams. He wants 24, and he wants 25 to settle any possible doubt. My only issue is that, as I have said before, that strategy is dubious to me; NOTHING can replace time on court VS real peers. There is no way you can emulate a real 3 sets of actual play with 3 sets of training.
Fatigue can be shorthand for "I don't want to." We all know that.
He will probably play Cincinnati. But don't you think champions know how to best prepare? He's not going to imperil his chances.
Gotta agree. Novak ain't no Dewy & Springtime Mirra Andreeva-esque (AKA, Good Andreeva) competitor these days. Pace yourself. Plus- this year, Novak won the Aussie and Rolland Garros titles. And, much as I quiver and vomit at this thought- Novak was damned close to winning Wimbledon this year. I don't think missing the likes of Toronto's gonna impact his chances.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:51 pm
by ti-amie
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:49 pm
by JTContinental
One of the Big 3 is ranked 4 this week, so does that mean the era is over?
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:08 pm
by ponchi101
JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:49 pm
One of the Big 3 is ranked 4 this week, so does that mean the era is over?
It was good while it lasted. The whole 6 months.
(you are right).
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:25 am
by ashkor87
Big 3 had nothing to do with ranking in my mind (I don't care about rankings. Period)
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:29 am
by ashkor87
Rankings are data, they are facts. Only Trump would argue that they are false, because data does not have the property of being true or false. Data just is. Big 3 is an expression of a judgment, which can, and should, be argued about . Conflating the two is what they call , in philosophy, a category mistake.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:48 pm
by ponchi101
I'll side with Iga. Calling three players the Big 3, when two of them only had 1 slam in their name, was rather silly.
It is not as if none of them ever loses before the semis of any tournament.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 3:26 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 3:48 pm
I'll side with Iga. Calling three players the Big 3, when two of them only had 1 slam in their name, was rather silly.
It is not as if none of them ever loses before the semis of any tournament.
Yeah, they need to find a different term. That one is retired.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2023 8:40 pm
by Owendonovan
Krejcikova can beat 'em all any day any how.
Re: ATP & WTA rankings
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 10:10 pm
by ti-amie
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New ATP Top 10 on Monday
1 Alcaraz
2 Djokovic
3 Medvedev
4 Tsitsipas
5 Rune NCH
6 Sinner NCH
7 Ruud
8 Rublev
9 Fritz
10 Tiafoe
NCH: New Career High
Everybody 27 or younger except for the 36-year-old Djokovic, now back on US soil in Cincy with coronavirus vaccine policy change
