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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:51 pm
by mick1303
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:18 pm
Russia will be holding a few more of these in the next few years.
It depends. Davis Cup is a check mark that is necessary to have for a player with high aspirations. But 2nd Davis Cup does not add nearly as much to the resume. Unlike 2nd Slam or 2nd YEC. This year Medvedev checked two big ones. I'm not sure that he will be as relentless in his dedication next time, regarding Davis Cup. After Novak won his Davis Cup in 2010, next time he played full campaign in 2013. Not counting one match in 2011, which he lost to DelPo.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:24 am
by ashkor87
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:51 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:18 pm
Russia will be holding a few more of these in the next few years.
It depends. Davis Cup is a check mark that is necessary to have for a player with high aspirations. But 2nd Davis Cup does not add nearly as much to the resume. Unlike 2nd Slam or 2nd YEC. This year Medvedev checked two big ones. I'm not sure that he will be as relentless in his dedication next time, regarding Davis Cup. After Novak won his Davis Cup in 2010, next time he played full campaign in 2013. Not counting one match in 2011, which he lost to DelPo.
Yes, that has been the pattern..Federer and Nadal have played once just to win the whole thing, then they play only when needed to avoid elimination, then they go away...Federer had even said as much..
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:51 am
by ponchi101
No, c'mon. Rafa has made it clear that he played DC over and over for love of country. He had 4 of the original one, 1 of the new version.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2021 3:30 am
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:51 am
No, c'mon. Rafa has made it clear that he played DC over and over for love of country. He had 4 of the original one, 1 of the new version.
Really? Must have missed that..Federer certainly intended to play just once...
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:56 pm
by mmmm8
Federer and some other players play to win one and then plan to qualify for the Olympics. Which is their right, of course.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2021 7:56 pm
by mmmm8
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:46 am
I am actually surprised Tarpischev is still around- thought he had been blacklisted or something for his racist comments about Serena and Venus...
He was fined and suspended from WTA events for a year... but this was back in 2014.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:32 pm
by JazzNU
FYI, Belarus is scheduled to compete this weekend in one of the David Cup World Group matchups. Not seeing anything yet, but given it's run by the ITF, you'd think there'd have to be an announcement to align with IOC.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:24 am
by ponchi101
It would be a consistent position. Banning a TEAM, not players. I see nothing wrong with that.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:46 pm
by ti-amie
14 March 2022
ITF BOARD CONFIRMS REPLACEMENTS FOR RUSSIAN AND BELARUSIAN TEAMS IN 2022 DAVIS CUP AND BILLIE JEAN KING CUP
The International Tennis Federation Board of Directors has confirmed the process for replacing the Russian and Belarusian teams during the 2022 Davis Cup and Billie Jean King Cup seasons. This follows the suspension of the Russian Tennis Federation (RTF) and Belarus Tennis Federation (BTF) from ITF membership and from participation in ITF international team competitions on 1 March 2022.
Billie Jean King Cup by BNP Paribas
As 2021 champions, the RTF team had qualified automatically for the 2022 Billie Jean King Cup by BNP Paribas Finals. The ITF Board has confirmed that RTF’s position in the Finals will go to the highest-ranked losing semi-finalist in 2021, Australia. Consequently, Australia will not compete in the Qualifiers on 15-16 April 2022. Their opponents, Slovakia, will receive a bye and advance directly to the 2022 Finals.
Belarus were due to compete in the Qualifiers on 15-16 April 2022. Their opponents, Belgium, will receive a walkover and advance directly to the 2022 Finals.
Australia, Slovakia and Belgium will join 2021 runners-up Switzerland at the 2022 Finals alongside the winning nations from the remaining seven Qualifier ties in April and the host nation (to be announced).
Davis Cup by Rakuten
As 2021 champions, the RTF team had also qualified automatically for the 2022 Davis Cup by Rakuten Finals. The ITF Board has confirmed that RTF’s position in the Finals will go to the highest-ranked losing semi-finalist in 2021, Serbia. As Serbia had been awarded a wild card for the 2022 Finals, the Davis Cup Finals Steering Committee will announce a replacement wild card nation (selected from the 12 losing nations from the 2022 Qualifiers, which were played on 4-5 March 2022) in due course.
That wild card team will compete alongside 2021 finalists Croatia, 2021 semi-finalists Serbia, wild card Great Britain and the 12 nations which recorded victories in the 2022 Qualifiers (Argentina, Australia, Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Kazakhstan, Korea Republic, Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and USA) at the 2022 Davis Cup Finals. The group stage of the Finals will take place across four cities in September before the quarter-finals, semi-finals and final are hosted at a fifth city in November. These venues will be announced in due course.
Belarus were due to compete in the World Group I Play-offs on 4-5 March 2022. Their opponents, Mexico, received a walkover and will compete in World Group I in September.
To ensure the correct number of teams will compete in both World Group I and World Group II in September, the highest-ranked losing nation from the World Group I Play-offs (Uzbekistan) will compete in World Group I; and the two highest-ranked losing nations from the World Group II Play-offs (China, P.R. and Thailand) will compete in World Group II.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:21 am
by ashkor87
Now that Svitolina is not playing, USA should progress easily..I really don't like doubles being last, though :- an after-thought..
They seem to be playing on the same surface as the USO..should be quick .. Collins will like it..
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:46 pm
by Deuce
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 8:21 am
Now that Svitolina is not playing, USA should progress easily..I really don't like doubles being last, though :- an after-thought..
They seem to be playing on the same surface as the USO..should be quick .. Collins will like it..
I agree - the doubles should be played in between the 4 singles matches (after the first 2 singles matches, and before the last 2).
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 2:20 am
by ashkor87
Having doubles last makes sense if you want to rest the singles players...but nowadays doubles is played mostly by specialists, they also deserve their place in the sun ..
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:21 am
by Deuce
Davis Cup was being played when singles players played a lot of doubles, and when the matches were best of 5 sets. I believe that the doubles matches were played in the middle of the singles matches then, as well (as I described above).
To my knowledge, no player ever died from this.
Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 4:19 am
by Deuce
Here are the Fed Cup Results after the first day of play (2 matches)...
The only ones which could qualify as surprises are Italy ahead of France and Kazakhstan ahead of Germany.
It's unfortunate that Ostapenko pulled out, as Latvia vs. Canada would have been more interesting with her there.
Play continues today (Saturday).
https://www.billiejeankingcup.com/en/dr ... /2022.aspx
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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:03 am
by JTContinental
Alison Riske won an 18-16 tiebreak in her match against Yastremska.
Swiatek continues to buzzsaw through her competition, losing only 1 game total in both of her singles matches.