Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:48 pm
Who do you all think is behind really grinding the ax on Sinner and his positive tests? Players Union, A National federation, someone high up in the ATP who feels embarassed?
Listen, I know IATA here. And I am replying in half jest. But the weird thing is that this agency is saying "nothing happened" when in the past it has come down on players with the full weight of the rules-book.
That is what has some people upset. We know Sinner did not take any drugs for enhancement. But the whole thing was handled very poorly.
With the last part being nothing more than my opinion.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 pm
by skatingfan
The ITIA might be changing their approach given the appeals of cases like Simona Halep. If CAS is going to overturn the suspension there's no point giving it in the first place.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:40 pm
by ponchi101
skatingfan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 pm
The IATA might be changing their approach given the appeals of cases like Simona Halep. If CAS is going to overturn the suspension there's no point giving it in the first place.
I meant: IATA
I Am The A*******
And yes, I can always change my approach
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:43 pm
by skatingfan
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:40 pm
I meant: IATA
I Am The A*******
And yes, I can always change my approach
Oops
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 12:11 am
by ashkor87
And does the game of tennis benefit by having Sinner suspended for a year or two?
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:39 am
by Owendonovan
Also, WADA? I don't consider their word worth too much,
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:12 pm
by ponchi101
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:39 am
Also, WADA? I don't consider their word worth too much,
There you go. It is an organization with a credibility issue. And, if now they seem to NOT be acting in accordance with their own rules, it will get worse.
Also (@Ashkor). The world will not benefit from having Sinner suspended for two years. and it will not suffer either. If the decisions were to be made on who would benefit, then Roger and Rafa could have shown on court with the syringe still stuck in their arms and nothing would have been done to them because "who would benefit by suspending the two mega stars for two years".
They did suspend Sharapova for two years (reduced to 15 months) and the world of tennis kept going. And when she came back she was virtually unable to win a third set, so her opponents benefited.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:49 am
by mmmm8
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:48 pm
Who do you all think is behind really grinding the ax on Sinner and his positive tests? Players Union, A National federation, someone high up in the ATP who feels embarassed?
As Ponchi alluded, it's the inconsistency vs past decisions. I think a lot of top (and former top) players probably have things to say behind closed doors.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 9:47 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:39 pm
by ponchi101
And, as I said, let's give people some breathing space.
So terribly fast to try to bring somebody down.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:24 am
by ashkor87
Probably a sad sad story, Jelena Dokic, releases nov 7
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 1:12 pm
by ponchi101
She was so promising. I remember her taking Hingis down at Wimbledon. She just demolished Martina.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 3:44 am
by skatingfan
Roddick interviewing PTPA Leadership - Amar Nassad and Vasek Pospisil
Andy does not hold back.
Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 1:39 am
Also, WADA? I don't consider their word worth too much,
There you go. It is an organization with a credibility issue. And, if now they seem to NOT be acting in accordance with their own rules, it will get worse.
Also (@Ashkor). The world will not benefit from having Sinner suspended for two years. and it will not suffer either. If the decisions were to be made on who would benefit, then Roger and Rafa could have shown on court with the syringe still stuck in their arms and nothing would have been done to them because "who would benefit by suspending the two mega stars for two years".
They did suspend Sharapova for two years (reduced to 15 months) and the world of tennis kept going. And when she came back she was virtually unable to win a third set, so her opponents benefited.
I don't think there is any higher interest than the interest of tennis itself.
Re: Tennis Related - Off Court Serious Issues
Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:40 am
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 07, 2024 10:39 pm
And, as I said, let's give people some breathing space.
So terribly fast to try to bring somebody down.
After that story with the Spanish basketball (volleyball?) team a few years ago, she has to be pretty dumb/ignorant not to pick up on this being an issue. That and the initial two "apologies" where she said she has Asian friends and "they're the kindest."
I think it's more stupid than malicious, but not a good look.
