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The same number of teenagers in both ATP and WTA top 100. That must be a pretty rare occurrence. Usually women greatly outnumber men on this one.
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The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.
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Interestingly enough there are 22 men, and 23 women over the age of 30 in the top 100 going into the US Open. 5 years ago there were 34 men, and 14 women over the age of 30 in the top 100 going into the US Open. So the men's tour has gotten younger, and the women's tour has gotten a little older over the past half decade.
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Jack Draper makes his top 20 debut on Monday, and Emma Navarro will make her top 10 debut.
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Emma is at #8. She is now THE Emma.
Raducanu has to go by full name.
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Zverev at 2, Rublev 6 feels too high..
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8 American men and 9 women are ranked in the top 50.
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ponchi101 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.
There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.
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JTContinental wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.
There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.
Agree. Sadly, Elena's record is splotched with too many withdrawals and odd losses. She can play great tennis, when she plays.
And 1 Slam is not enough for BIG status.
We have spoken about this before. Personally, I don't see any BIG player right. The BIGS suffered odd losses very rarely, where always around for the second week of all slams, and did that consistently. I say Iga is BIG on clay, and she may be a BIG one of these days. Carlos is going through a blip, and he will come back, so we have just to wait a little.
And Sinner is having a really good year, which pales when comparing it to those players with GREAT years. Mac's 84, Connor's 74, Wilander's 88. R/R/N had a couple each, so we have to wait to see what else he will do.
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Lol at the autocorrect
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In a given year, 'big' has meaning. we are not talking about eternity here. Today, the big 3 in Men are Djokovic, Sinner and Alcaraz.. the big 3 include Rybakina - by quality, not necessarily by accomplishment. But even there, she has beaten the other 2 at big events even this year. I have every hope she will come back.
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I doubt Djokovic will be a factor for another year.
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ponchi101 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:18 pm
JTContinental wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.
There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.
Agree. Sadly, Elena's record is splotched with too many withdrawals and odd losses. She can play great tennis, when she plays.
And 1 Slam is not enough for BIG status.
We have spoken about this before. Personally, I don't see any BIG player right. The BIGS suffered odd losses very rarely, where always around for the second week of all slams, and did that consistently. I say Iga is BIG on clay, and she may be a BIG one of these days. Carlos is going through a blip, and he will come back, so we have just to wait a little.
And Sinner is having a really good year, which pales when comparing it to those players with GREAT years. Mac's 84, Connor's 74, Wilander's 88. R/R/N had a couple each, so we have to wait to see what else he will do.
My method allows comparing year versus year for any player. So top 10 years for the period of 1968-2023 has 4 Federer's years, 3 Djokovic's years and one year of Laver, McEnroe and Lendl. Nadal's best year (2010) is #17 on the list, his next best year (2008) is at #21. Margin's are small though. The point of this is that I do not agree with the statement that "R/R/N each have couple of those years". Nadal kind of falls behind (relatively) in the great years comparison.
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Re: ATP & WTA rankings

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mick1303 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:21 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:18 pm
JTContinental wrote: Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm

There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.
Agree. Sadly, Elena's record is splotched with too many withdrawals and odd losses. She can play great tennis, when she plays.
And 1 Slam is not enough for BIG status.
We have spoken about this before. Personally, I don't see any BIG player right. The BIGS suffered odd losses very rarely, where always around for the second week of all slams, and did that consistently. I say Iga is BIG on clay, and she may be a BIG one of these days. Carlos is going through a blip, and he will come back, so we have just to wait a little.
And Sinner is having a really good year, which pales when comparing it to those players with GREAT years. Mac's 84, Connor's 74, Wilander's 88. R/R/N had a couple each, so we have to wait to see what else he will do.
My method allows comparing year versus year for any player. So top 10 years for the period of 1968-2023 has 4 Federer's years, 3 Djokovic's years and one year of Laver, McEnroe and Lendl. Nadal's best year (2010) is #17 on the list, his next best year (2008) is at #21. Margin's are small though. The point of this is that I do not agree with the statement that "R/R/N each have couple of those years". Nadal kind of falls behind (relatively) in the great years comparison.
I just threw out there the "couple of years" statement. You have the numbers. So, that is definite.
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Zverev is now ranked #2 in the world.
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