Talk About Tennis 2.0

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.

JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.

There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:18 pm

JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:20 pm The years of older players dominating seems to be coming back to an end. The big three era, together with Serena's longevity in the WTA, will be the anomaly, not the norm.
Many years to wait, but we will have to wait and see if Sinner, Alcaraz and Swiatek (Sabalenka is a bit older) will be as dominant in their 30's as those top four players.

There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.

Agree. Sadly, Elena's record is splotched with too many withdrawals and odd losses. She can play great tennis, when she plays.
And 1 Slam is not enough for BIG status.
We have spoken about this before. Personally, I don't see any BIG player right. The BIGS suffered odd losses very rarely, where always around for the second week of all slams, and did that consistently. I say Iga is BIG on clay, and she may be a BIG one of these days. Carlos is going through a blip, and he will come back, so we have just to wait a little.
And Sinner is having a really good year, which pales when comparing it to those players with GREAT years. Mac's 84, Connor's 74, Wilander's 88. R/R/N had a couple each, so we have to wait to see what else he will do.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:21 pm

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:18 pm

JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Sep 09, 2024 8:06 pm

There’s really only a big two. I don’t think Rubakins has lived up to her part of that particular moniker.

Agree. Sadly, Elena's record is splotched with too many withdrawals and odd losses. She can play great tennis, when she plays.
And 1 Slam is not enough for BIG status.
We have spoken about this before. Personally, I don't see any BIG player right. The BIGS suffered odd losses very rarely, where always around for the second week of all slams, and did that consistently. I say Iga is BIG on clay, and she may be a BIG one of these days. Carlos is going through a blip, and he will come back, so we have just to wait a little.
And Sinner is having a really good year, which pales when comparing it to those players with GREAT years. Mac's 84, Connor's 74, Wilander's 88. R/R/N had a couple each, so we have to wait to see what else he will do.

My method allows comparing year versus year for any player. So top 10 years for the period of 1968-2023 has 4 Federer's years, 3 Djokovic's years and one year of Laver, McEnroe and Lendl. Nadal's best year (2010) is #17 on the list, his next best year (2008) is at #21. Margin's are small though. The point of this is that I do not agree with the statement that "R/R/N each have couple of those years". Nadal kind of falls behind (relatively) in the great years comparison.