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Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 8:45 pm
by JazzNU
Also with the Dems winning the PA House, we have a new speaker. First woman ever to hold the position. So, so proud!
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:23 pm
by ponchi101
Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:57 pm
by dryrunguy
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:23 pm
Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs
I don't think that's easily quantified, ponchi. But in crude terms, a liberal typically supports the social safety net, Social Security, law enforcement, the environment, etc. A progressive supports many of the same things as a liberal but tends to take things several steps farther, e.g., guaranteed income, defund the police, Green New Deal, pay off our student loans for the education we couldn't afford, etc. Think of many progressives as a liberal on steroids.
But neither group is a one-size-fits-all for everyone who calls themselves a particular term.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:06 pm
by JazzNU
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:57 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 9:23 pm
Serious here.
What is the difference (at least in the USA) between a "Progressive" and a "Liberal"? Never mind Bernie Progressive or regular progressive.
Txs
I don't think that's easily quantified, ponchi. But in crude terms, a liberal typically supports the social safety net, Social Security, law enforcement, the environment, etc. A progressive supports many of the same things as a liberal but tends to take things several steps farther, e.g., guaranteed income, defund the police, Green New Deal, pay off our student loans for the education we couldn't afford, etc. Think of many progressives as a liberal on steroids.
But neither group is a one-size-fits-all for everyone who calls themselves a particular term.
Awesome answer.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:12 pm
by ponchi101
Thanks. Sounds a bit like "Liberals without a grasp of reality".
Which is what we have here.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 1:53 am
by dryrunguy
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:12 pm
Thanks. Sounds a bit like "Liberals without a grasp of reality".
Which is what we have here.
I don't know. It's not that they necessarily don't have a grasp on reality. What they don't have a grasp for is the broader public's lack of appetite or tolerance for significant change. Just as the far right has its bubbles, the far left does, too.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 3:06 am
by ti-amie
Why do they lie about everything?
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 9:24 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:48 pm
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:42 am
by Owendonovan
ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 11:48 pm
It's just, so stupid. I know people go for it, but how did they lose all the built in mental/emotional safeguards?
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:01 pm
by ponchi101
@Owen. As the last skeptic in this forum, let me know if you want my opinion over a PM.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:31 am
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:32 am
by ti-amie
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 3:26 am
by dryrunguy
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:31 am
Seriously. Who woulda thunk it? I still want Warnock, though. Which from time to time could make Manchin or Sinema irrelevant.
Re: Politics Random, Random
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 5:38 am
by Suliso
Hopefully Trump still runs in 2024.