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Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:35 pm
by ponchi101
Does anybody know why Iga is not playing with the ON shoes? They do have a THE ROGER for women, and one specifically for clay.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:56 pm
by ashkor87
Swiatek strangely tentative now, second set...missing the high putaways...which she never missed...

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 7:01 pm
by nelslus
Suliso wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 3:25 pm I think Sabalenka will romp to a relatively easy finish from here.
,,,,All these years later- the Suliso Touch never fails. :gorgeous:

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:01 pm
by ti-amie
Suliso!

Now I know why I turned away from the first semi with Sabalenka up 5-2 in the third and came back to 5 all and Muchova taking the third set 7-5.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 8:02 pm
by ti-amie
When Bia had that break and didn't consolidate I knew it was over. She tried but mentally she wasn't at the level she needed to be. She has the game and knew to try and slow Iga down but that loss was between her ears.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:15 pm
by ponchi101
What do we make of BHM now? Is she a solid member of the top 10, for at least some time now? He can claim a good result on clay, has two trophies on grass, and beat Iga on hards last year. Can she claim a top spot, a player that can truly be counted at all tournaments?

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:14 pm
by patrick
Define top spot. No on all tournaments

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:55 pm
by ponchi101
A top player = Somebody that will seldom lose to lower ranked players, especially if there is considerable separation (not top 50). Somebody that can be counted to go deep in all 250's and get 1 or 2 tournaments a year at that level. Expected to reach 3R and beyond at slams (last year she came to Wimby with two grass titles and lost in 1R). Not losing sets by bagels or breadsticks against even the likes of Iga or Aryna.
is she there?

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:02 am
by ashkor87
I am very impressed with BHM..she has the game to beat anyone ..she will be a force at W and the USO too..to me, yes, she is a Tier 2 player, on the cusp of Tier 1...

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:41 am
by Owendonovan
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:35 pm Does anybody know why Iga is not playing with the ON shoes? They do have a THE ROGER for women, and one specifically for clay.
I don't think On is quite there yet with the kind of technical demands an elite athlete needs, though I think it's coming. they're not as established in the elite world sneaker-wise. If you wear Nike, Adidas, Puma, etc. from ages 5-20, it's probably a hard transition to another brand, at least mentally. I would think.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 2:12 am
by Owendonovan
jazzyg wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:24 pm That was quite the choke.

Hope Muchova will be fit for the final.
Shades of Clijsters.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:35 am
by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 5:27 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 4:25 pm Great match, but that was a huge collapse by Aryna.
I think that Muchova hurt herself; she was grabbing her thigh at the end of the match.
Chances for the final? 40%?
10%
I think you are right..40%

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 4:38 am
by ashkor87
But BHM being a leftie was a factor..Muchova is more conventional and I hear they practice together a lot, so no surprise element ...30% maybe..?

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 1:07 pm
by ponchi101
Muchova is a very well rounded player. She is very good at the net, does not make swinging volleys but rather goes for the smash, has a very good slice BH. I say technically, she is more solid than BHM, by just a bit.
Meet you half way. 1/3 chance for Muchova, IF SHE WINS THE FIRST SET. We know how good Iga is when running in front.

Re: '23 RG Day 12 OoP & Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 3:28 pm
by ponchi101
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:15 pm What do we make of BHM now? Is she a solid member of the top 10, for at least some time now? He can claim a good result on clay, has two trophies on grass, and beat Iga on hards last year. Can she claim a top spot, a player that can truly be counted at all tournaments?
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:55 pm A top player = Somebody that will seldom lose to lower ranked players, especially if there is considerable separation (not top 50). Somebody that can be counted to go deep in all 250's and get 1 or 2 tournaments a year at that level. Expected to reach 3R and beyond at slams (last year she came to Wimby with two grass titles and lost in 1R). Not losing sets by bagels or breadsticks against even the likes of Iga or Aryna.
is she there?
This was answered very quickly...