Talk About Tennis 2.0

Some people are upset that this is the draw for a WTA 1000 but this is what you get when your scheduling is crap.

It's a 1000, and you have only two former Slam Champs. Kenin and Stephens, with Kenin winning hers in 2020.
Yes, this is no good.

Rybakina not playing? she needs some matches..

i thought WTA guarantees a certan number of top 10 players to every 1000 level tournament? Not so?

Surprised Krejcikova isn't riding her momentum given this weak field. I know she played both dubs and singles, but she played dubs because she felt she needed matches. So why pass up a 1000 in a city so close to San Diego?

She said quite a few times how much she likes San Diego, the hotel they stay at, etc. Sometimes we underestimate (and don't know) how much a player's comfort level at a site affects their performance.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:34 pm i thought WTA guarantees a certan number of top 10 players to every 1000 level tournament? Not so?

Maybe the can pay a fee if they can't get the numbers. I've never understood how they can force anyone to play a tournament, ultimately. I know players can take 0 points for an event they were required to enter and forfeit bonus money for the year, and that's some leverage. Points more than the money for top players.

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:27 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:34 pm i thought WTA guarantees a certan number of top 10 players to every 1000 level tournament? Not so?

Maybe the can pay a fee if they can't get the numbers. I've never understood how they can force anyone to play a tournament, ultimately. I know players can take 0 points for an event they were required to enter and forfeit bonus money for the year, and that's some leverage. Points more than the money for top players.

I remember Sampras was once 'designated' to play a tournament to make up the numbers.. he promptly lost in the first round, so it can be done.. the WTA has contractual rights with players to enforce these things.. maybe they dont care enough about 'non-mandatory' tournaments..

From the WTA rule book (see pg 17)

B. TOP 10 PLAYER DELIVERY
1. Fulfillment
If a Tournament has met its material obligations to the WTA pursuant to
these Rules, then the WTA is obligated to:
a. provide the applicable number of players whose WTA Singles
Ranking is 1-10 at the Tournament’s Main Draw entry deadline (“Top
10 Players”) to play in the Tournament (“Top 10 Player Delivery”); or if
WTA fails to fulfill the applicable Top 10 Player Delivery requirement,
then
b. pay out of the Bonus Pool Fund the applicable compensation payment
for missed Top 10 Player Delivery as set forth in the following table:
Tournament
Category
Top 10 Player Delivery Tournament Compensation for
Missed Top 10 Player Delivery
WTA 1000
Mandatory*
10 of Top 10
9 of Top 10
8 of Top 10
7 (or less) of Top 10
$0
$100,000
$250,000
$500,000
WTA 1000
Non-Mandatory
7 of Top 10
6 of Top 10
5 of Top 10
4 of Top 10

the amounts are in the rulebook..

so the WTA ends up paying compensation if they cannot deliver 7 of the top 10 players to a Non-mandatory event and 10 out of 10 to a mandatory!

From videos of last year, court appears medium to fast...will help folks like Bencic,alexandrova ..I don't expect Jabeur to have recovered fully. Too bad the big 3 are not playing...

Day 3 Order of Play

https://wtafiles.wtatennis.com/pdf/draw ... 075/OP.pdf

ashkor87 wrote:

meganfernandez wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:27 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 17, 2023 12:34 pm i thought WTA guarantees a certan number of top 10 players to every 1000 level tournament? Not so?

Maybe the can pay a fee if they can't get the numbers. I've never understood how they can force anyone to play a tournament, ultimately. I know players can take 0 points for an event they were required to enter and forfeit bonus money for the year, and that's some leverage. Points more than the money for top players.

I remember Sampras was once 'designated' to play a tournament to make up the numbers.. he promptly lost in the first round, so it can be done.. the WTA has contractual rights with players to enforce these things.. maybe they dont care enough about 'non-mandatory' tournaments..

I read some of the rule book and they can’t really force someone - they can just dock them points and bonus money. Maybe with enough infractions they can suspend a player, but I doubt it ever comes to that.

Oh I didn’t see your post about the rule book. This makes sense. If players miss obligations, the tour uses their bonus money to pay tournaments.

Mladenovic lost 0 and 0 to Busca. Crazy how far she has fallen n 4-5 years, since she beat Mugu at the French in 2017 and single-handedly won the Fed Cup by beating Australia at home in 2019. Australia had Barty and Stosur the year Barty won the French and the WTA Finals.

Bouchard made good on her wild card, unfortunately at the expense of Mexico’s top female player, Renata Zarazua.

Day 4 Order of Play

Estadio Akron de Tenis Starts at 11:00 AM

USA R. MONTGOMERY vs BLR V. AZARENKA (10)
FOLLOWED BY
CZE K. PLISKOVA (16) vs USA H. BAPTISTE
NOT BEFORE 3:00 PM
RUS V. KUDERMETOVA (7) vs CAN E. BOUCHARD
NOT BEFORE 6:00 PM
BRA B. HADDAD MAIA (9) vs USA D. COLLINS
FOLLOWED BY
SUI B. BENCIC (5) vs USA T. TOWNSEND

Grandstand Caliente Starts at 11:00 AM

EGY M. SHERIF (14) vs ITA C. GIORGI
FOLLOWED BY
ITA M. TREVISAN vs ITA J. PAOLINI (15)
FOLLOWED BY
COL E. ARANGO vs RUS A. POTAPOVA (11)
NOT BEFORE 4:30 PM
USA S. KENIN vs CAN C. ZHAO
FOLLOWED BY
UKR L. KICHENOK/NED A. RUS vs RUS V. MIROSHNICHENKO/MEX R. ZARAZUA

Court 1 Starts at 11:00 AM

USA C. DOLEHIDE vs USA P. STEARNS
FOLLOWED BY
USA E. NAVARRO vs USA M. MATEAS
FOLLOWED BY
USA L. DAVIS/USA R. MONTGOMERY vs CHI A. GUARACHI/ROU M. NICULESCU
FOLLOWED BY
NOR U. EIKERI/EST I. NEEL vs COL M. PEREZ GARCIA/USA S. SEWING
FOLLOWED BY
USA B. MATTEK-SANDS/FRA K. MLADENOVIC vs GEO O. KALASHNIKOVA/CZE M. KOLODZIEJOVA

Court 3 Starts at 11:00 AM

AUS S. HUNTER vs BLR I. SHYMANOVICH
FOLLOWED BY
UKR M. KOSTYUK vs CAN S. FUNG
FOLLOWED BY
ESP C. BUCSA/BLR I. SHYMANOVICH vs JPN M. KATO/INA A. SUTJIADI (8)

Court 2 Starts at 11:00 AM

COL C. OSORIO vs POL M. FRECH
FOLLOWED BY
KAZ A. DANILINA/CHN Z. YANG (7) vs USA A. PARKS/BEL Y. WICKMAYER
NOT BEFORE 2:00 PM
POL M. FRECH/UKR D. YASTREMSKA vs USA C. DOLEHIDE/USA A. MUHAMMAD
FOLLOWED BY
USA N. MELICHAR-MARTINEZ/AUS E. PEREZ (6) vs ITA J. PAOLINI/EGY M. SHERIF

Parks has a nice draw..even Jabeur is not fully ready. .hope she can make the most of it...

Maybe time to talk about the Big 4. Coco has done enough to be included.. though I would want to see one more big result.. 1000 or YEC....