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Wed, 26 June, 2024 (Day 5)

Centre Court
Starts At 11:00

M. Kecmanovic Vs (4) S. Baez
Not Before 12:30
J. Ostapenko (5) Vs K. Boulter
Followed By
E. Raducanu (WC) Vs J. Pegula (2)
Not Before 16:00
T. Fritz (1) Vs T. Seyboth Wild
Not Before 17:30
L. Glasspool/J. Rojer Vs (2) M. Arevalo/M. Pavic

Court 1
Starts At 11:00

M. Keys (4) Vs A. Kalinina (Q)
Not Before 12:30
E. Ruusuvuori Vs (Q) J. Shang
Followed By
A. Bublik (3) Vs (LL) A. Vukic
Not Before 16:00
E. Mertens Vs J. Paolini (3)
Not Before 17:30
M. Ebden/J. Peers (3) Vs A. Krajicek/M. McDonald

Court 2
Starts At 11:00

B. Harris (WC) Vs (LL) C. Broom
Followed By
S. Kenin Vs H. Dart (WC)
Followed By
D. Kasatkina (6) Vs Y. Yuan
Followed By
M. Purcell/E. Ruusuvuori Vs H. Heliovaara/H. Patten

Court 4
Starts At 11:00

K. Muchova Vs M. Linette (Q)
Followed By
A. Krueger (Q) Vs L. Fernandez
Followed By
G. Dabrowski/E. Routliffe (1) Vs H. Guo/X. Jiang
Followed By
A. Muhammad/A. Sutjiadi Vs C. Bucsa/M. Ninomiya
Followed By
L. Kichenok/J. Ostapenko Vs (2) B. Krejcikova/L. Siegemund

Court 5
Starts At 11:00

Y. Nishioka (Q) Vs M. Giron
Not Before 12:30
L. Sonego Vs (Q) M. Purcell
Followed By
G. Hussey (LL) Vs F. Cobolli
Followed By
S. Baez/M. Navone Vs (4) N. Skupski/M. Venus

Thu, 27 June, 2024 (Day 6)

Centre Court
Starts At 11:00

F. Cobolli Vs (WC) B. Harris
Not Before 12:30
K. Boulter Vs J. Paolini (3)
Followed By
D. Kasatkina (6) Vs E. Raducanu (WC)
Not Before 16:00
T. Fritz (1) Vs (Q) J. Shang

Court 1
Starts At 11:00

H. Dart (WC) Vs L. Fernandez
Not Before 12:30
M. Purcell (Q) Vs M. Kecmanovic
Followed By
A. Vukic (LL) Vs (Q) Y. Nishioka
Not Before 16:00
M. Keys (4) Vs K. Muchova

Court 2
Starts At 13:00

N. Skupski/M. Venus (4) Vs (2) M. Arevalo/M. Pavic
Followed By
H. Heliovaara/H. Patten Vs (3) M. Ebden/J. Peers
Followed By
S. Hsieh/S. Stephens Vs H. Dart/M. Lumsden

Raducanu beat Pegula 4-6, 7-6(6), 7-5. Has Pegula gotten the most she could out of her game?

Yes

ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:20 am Raducanu beat Pegula 4-6, 7-6(6), 7-5. Has Pegula gotten the most she could out of her game?

I think nearly every WTA player could have a better serve, so until she develops a serve as a weapon, no.

Not a real surprise. raducanu is a major champion..she is simply a player of a higher class than Pegula ..great to have them both back, though..both are good for the game

Keys vs Muchova today! I was actually at Eastbourne yesterday, couldn't get to see the tennis though.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 5:35 am Keys vs Muchova today! I was actually at Eastbourne yesterday, couldn't get to see the tennis though.

Was the town as cute as they say?

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:56 am Not a real surprise. raducanu is a major champion..she is simply a player of a higher class than Pegula ..great to have them both back, though..both are good for the game

Pegula just won a tournament last week. She is consciously or subconsciously maybe decided that she had enough preparation for Wimbledon. Raducanu did not do anything of note besides her USO run. Textbook definition of a fluke (until/unless she proves otherwise). IMO putting Raducanu to a higher class than Pegula has no ground. I wouldn't even put her in the same class: Pegula's career win-loss percentage is 65%. Raducanu's - 53%.

mick1303 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:42 pm

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:56 am Not a real surprise. raducanu is a major champion..she is simply a player of a higher class than Pegula ..great to have them both back, though..both are good for the game

Pegula just won a tournament last week. She is consciously or subconsciously maybe decided that she had enough preparation for Wimbledon. Raducanu did not do anything of note besides her USO run. Textbook definition of a fluke (until/unless she proves otherwise). IMO putting Raducanu to a higher class than Pegula has no ground. I wouldn't even put her in the same class: Pegula's career win-loss percentage is 65%. Raducanu's - 53%.

It was a very close match, too. Pegula should have won, up a set and a break at 3-1. Had match point in the second set. She needs to close matches better.

Class is to be seen by how good the player is at her best..on average, all players are around 50% probably ...Raducanu winning the USO was not a fluke, neither was Osaka, nor Andreescu nor Sloane...all of them won by playing extraordinarily well over 7 rounds .
As for Pegula, she is a very good player but never a great player..on the whole, a bit over-rated, specially by the American media ..

Pegula was a few points away from beating Vondrousova at Wimbledon last year, but I guess because she did not win those points, she is not in the same class as Vondrousova. She was coming off a tournament title when she played Raducanu yesterday and was mentally fried in what was honestly a poorly played match by both of them. Gleaning anything from that result is the height of absurdity, although I agree Pegula still has something to prove against the truly elite players (Raducanu at this stage of her comeback is not one of them even though I 100-percent agree her U.S. Open title was no fluke).

On another note that probably only interests me, Vukic came back from 5-2 in the third-set tiebreak to beat Nishioka in the men's quarters after losing in straight sets to him in qualifying and getting in the draw as a lucky loser. I actually think Vukic will win the tournament because Fritz has been garbage on grass last year and this and the bottom half of the draw has a qualifier and a wild card in the semis.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:49 pm Class is to be seen by how good the player is at her best..on average, all players are around 50% probably ...Raducanu winning the USO was not a fluke, neither was Osaka, nor Andreescu nor Sloane...all of them won by playing extraordinarily well over 7 rounds .
As for Pegula, she is a very good player but never a great player..on the whole, a bit over-rated, specially by the American media ..

At their best result. If you go by that process of selection, Goran is/was better than Ferrer, Tsonga and every other player that never won a slam.
Goran was damn good, but to grant him such status just because one slam favored his huge serve (at the time) is a bit extreme, for me.
And the definition of a fluke is precisely that you won 7 matches in a row during two weeks (Emma won 10 in three). Majoli was a fluke, Schiavone was a fluke, Penetta was a fluke, Tommy Johansson was a fluke and Gaston Gaudio was a fluke. They never did anything of relevance other than their specific two weeks.