by ti-amie THE CHAMPIONSHIPS, WIMBLEDON 2024
INTENDED ORDER OF PLAY FOR DAY 6 SATURDAY 6 JULY

CENTRE COURT - 1:30PM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Cameron Norrie (GBR) v Alexander Zverev (GER) [4]
2. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Ons Jabeur (TUN) [10] v Elina Svitolina (UKR) [21]
3. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Alexei Popyrin (AUS) v Novak Djokovic (SRB) [2]

NO.1 COURT - 1:00PM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Ben Shelton (USA) [14] leads Denis Shapovalov (CAN) To Finish 3-2
2. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Iga Swiatek (POL) [1] v Yulia Putintseva (KAZ)
3. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Elena Rybakina (KAZ) [4] v Caroline Wozniacki (DEN)
4. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Marcelo Arevalo (ESA) / Shuai Zhang (CHN) v Andy Murray (GBR) / Emma Raducanu (GBR)

NO.2 COURT - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Harriet Dart (GBR) v Xinyu Wang (CHN)
2. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Daniil Medvedev [5] leads Jan-Lennard Struff (GER) To Finish 6-1 6-3 4-6 1-1
3. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Taylor Fritz (USA) [13] v Alejandro Tabilo (CHI) [24]

NO.3 COURT - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Lucas Pouille (FRA) v Alex de Minaur (AUS) [9]
2. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Danielle Collins (USA) [11] v Beatriz Haddad Maia (BRA) [20]
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Rajeev Ram (USA) / Joe Salisbury (GBR) [3] v Andreas Mies (GER) / John-Patrick Smith (AUS)

COURT 12 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Ugo Humbert (FRA) [16] leads Brandon Nakashima (USA) To Finish 7-6(9) 6-3 6-7(5) 6-6
2. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Bernarda Pera (USA) v Jelena Ostapenko (LAT) [13]
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Sadio Doumbia (FRA) / Fabien Reboul (FRA) [16] v Julian Cash (GBR) / Robert Galloway (USA)

COURT 18 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Anna Kalinskaya [17] v Liudmila Samsonova [15]
2. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Holger Rune (DEN) [15] v Quentin Halys (FRA)
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Santiago Gonzalez (MEX) / Edouard Roger-Vasselin (FRA) [6] v Christopher Eubanks (USA) / Evan King (USA)
4. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Su-Wei Hsieh (TPE) / Elise Mertens (BEL) [1] v Emily Appleton (GBR) / Yuriko Lily Miyazaki (GBR)
5. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Santiago Gonzalez (MEX) / Giuliana Olmos (MEX) v Luke Johnson (GBR) / Freya Christie (GBR)

COURT 4 - 11:00AM

1. Girls' Singles - First Round
Daniela Piani (GBR) v Antonia Vergara Rivera (CHI) [14]
2. Boys' Singles - First Round
Benjamin Gusic Wan (GBR) v Theo Papamalamis (FRA) [16]
3. Girls' Singles - First Round
Hannah Klugman (GBR) [5] v Vittoria Paganetti (ITA)
4. Boys' Singles - First Round
Luca Preda (ROU) [5] v Mark Ceban (GBR)
5. Girls' Singles - First Round
Gabia Paskauskas (GBR) v Laura Samson (CZE) [2]

COURT 5 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Singles - First Round
Daniil Sarksian v Luke Hooper (GBR)
2. Boys' Singles - First Round
Marko Maksimovic (SRB) [12] v Charlie Swaine (GBR)
3. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Asia Muhammad (USA) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) [15] v Diana Shnaider / Elena Vesnina
4. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Timea Babos (HUN) / Nadiia Kichenok (UKR) v Nicole Melichar-Martinez (USA) / Ellen Perez (AUS) [3]

COURT 6 - 11:00AM

1. Girls' Singles - First Round
Brooke Black (GBR) v Sonja Zhiyenbayeva (KAZ)
2. Girls' Singles - First Round
Hephzibah Oluwadare (GBR) v Kaitlyn Rolls (USA) [12]
3. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Cristina Bucsa (ESP) / Nao Hibino (JPN) v Hao-Ching Chan (TPE) / Veronika Kudermetova [12]
4. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Maximo Gonzalez (ARG) / Andres Molteni (ARG) [11] v Tomas Machac (CZE) / Zhizhen Zhang (CHN)
5. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Marcus Willis (GBR) / Alicia Barnett (GBR) v Ivan Dodig (CRO) / Hao-Ching Chan (TPE) [8]

COURT 7 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Miyu Kato (JPN) / Shuai Zhang (CHN) v Sofia Kenin (USA) / Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) [14]
2. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Caroline Dolehide (USA) / Desirae Krawczyk (USA) [7] v Emma Navarro (USA) / Diane Parry (FRA)
3. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Ulrikke Eikeri (NOR) / Ingrid Neel (EST) [16] leads Leylah Fernandez (CAN) / Ena Shibahara (JPN) To Finish 6-2
4. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Irina Khromacheva / Kamilla Rakhimova tied Gabriela Dabrowski (CAN) / Erin Routliffe (NZL) [2] To Finish 1-1
5. Girls' Singles - First Round
Flora Johnson (GBR) v Alena Kovackova (CZE) [7]
6. Girls' Singles - First Round
Iva Ivanova (BUL) [16] v Isabelle Lacy (GBR)

COURT 8 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Marcelo Arevalo (ESA) / Mate Pavic (CRO) [4] leads Romain Arneodo (MON) / Sem Verbeek (NED) To Finish 6-4 5-4
2. Gentlemen's Doubles - First Round
Charles Broom (GBR) / Arthur Fery (GBR) leads Nuno Borges (POR) / Arthur Rinderknech (FRA) To Finish 6-4
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Nicolas Barrientos (COL) / Francisco Cabral (POR) leads Rafael Matos (BRA) / Marcelo Melo (BRA) To Finish 7-6(1) 6-7(5) 4-3
4. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Max Purcell (AUS) / Jordan Thompson (AUS) [15] leads Fabrice Martin (FRA) / Matwe Middelkoop (NED) To Finish 6-4 3-3
5. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Constantin Frantzen (GER) / Hendrik Jebens (GER) v Rohan Bopanna (IND) / Matthew Ebden (AUS) [2]

COURT 9 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Singles - First Round
Zach Stephens (GBR) v Tianhui Zhang (CHN)
2. Boys' Singles - First Round
Alexander Razeghi (USA) v Nathan Trouve (FRA)
3. Girls' Singles - First Round
Rose Marie Nijkamp (NED) v Lucie Urbanova (CZE)
4. Girls' Singles - First Round
Reina Goto (JPN) v Asylzhan Arystanbekova (KAZ)
5. Girls' Singles - First Round
Laima Vladson (LTU) v Sonja Zhenikhova (GER)
6. Girls' Singles - First Round
Kristina Penickova (USA) [9] v Yelyzaveta Kotliar (UKR)

COURT 10 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Singles - First Round
Mees Rottgering (NED) v Andreas Timini (CYP)
2. Girls' Singles - First Round
Tereza Krejcova (CZE) v Noemi Basiletti (ITA)
3. Boys' Singles - First Round
Pavle Marinkov (AUS) v Tomasz Berkieta (POL) [4]
4. Girls' Singles - First Round
Eliska Tichackova (CZE) v Thea Frodin (USA)
5. Girls' Singles - First Round
Luna Maria Cinalli (ARG) v Lea Nilsson (SWE)

COURT 11 - 11:00AM

1. Boys' Singles - First Round
Henry Bernet (SUI) v Andrea De Marchi (ITA)
2. Boys' Singles - First Round
William Rejchtman Vinciguerra (SWE) v Ian Mayew (USA)
3. Boys' Singles - First Round
Hoyoung Roh (KOR) v Maxwell Exsted (USA)
4. Girls' Singles - First Round
Anna Maria Fedotova (DOM) v Charo Esquiva Banuls (ESP)
5. Boys' Singles - First Round
Mae Malige (FRA) v Nicolai Budkov Kjaer (NOR) [2]

COURT 14 - 11:00AM

1. Ladies' Singles - Third Round
Barbora Krejcikova (CZE) [31] v Jessica Bouzas Maneiro (ESP)
2. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Francisco Comesana (ARG) v Lorenzo Musetti (ITA) [25]
3. Ladies' Doubles - First Round
Barbora Krejcikova (CZE) / Laura Siegemund (GER) [8] leads Samantha Murray Sharan (GBR) / Eden Silva (GBR) To Finish 7-6(1) 5-4
4. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Rinky Hijikata (AUS) / John Peers (AUS) v Neal Skupski (GBR) / Michael Venus (NZL) [9]
5. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Kevin Krawietz (GER) / Alexandra Panova v Austin Krajicek (USA) / Laura Siegemund (GER) [4]

COURT 15 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Arthur Fils (FRA) v Roman Safiullin
2. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Coco Gauff (USA) / Jessica Pegula (USA) [11] v Anna Danilina (KAZ) / Yifan Xu (CHN)
3. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Sander Gille (BEL) / Joran Vliegen (BEL) [14] v Lloyd Glasspool (GBR) / Jean-Julien Rojer (NED)
4. Boys' Singles - First Round
Atakan Karahan (TUR) v Daniele Rapagnetta (ITA)
5. Gentlemen's Doubles - Second Round
Sebastian Ofner (AUT) / Sam Weissborn (AUT) v Sebastian Baez (ARG) / Dustin Brown (JAM)

COURT 16 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Doubles - First Round
Nicolas Mahut (FRA) / Skander Mansouri (TUN) leads Reese Stalder (USA) / Aleksandar Vukic (AUS) To Finish 4-2
Not Before: 12:00pm
2. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Fabio Fognini (ITA) leads Roberto Bautista Agut (ESP) To Finish 6-7(6) 6-3 7-5 4-5
3. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Miriam Kolodziejova (CZE) / Anna Siskova (CZE) v Sara Errani (ITA) / Jasmine Paolini (ITA) [5]
4. Ladies' Doubles - First Round
Yana Sizikova / Yafan Wang (CHN) v Anna Kalinskaya / Donna Vekic (CRO)
5. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Jackson Withrow (USA) / Aldila Sutjiadi (INA) v Andrea Vavassori (ITA) / Sara Errani (ITA) [5]

COURT 17 - 11:00AM

1. Gentlemen's Singles - Third Round
Giovanni Mpetshi Perricard (FRA) v Emil Ruusuvuori (FIN)
2. Ladies' Doubles - Second Round
Katerina Siniakova (CZE) / Taylor Townsend (USA) [4] leads Olivia Gadecki (AUS) / Elixane Lechemia (FRA) To Finish 2-1
3. Girls' Singles - First Round
Jeline Vandromme (BEL) [10] v Gaeul Jang (KOR)
4. Girls' Singles - First Round
Emily Sartz-Lunde (NOR) v Monika Stankiewicz (POL)

TO BE ARRANGED 1 - 3:00PM

Not Before: 3:00pm
1. Gentlemen's Doubles - First Round
Mackenzie McDonald (USA) / Ben Shelton (USA) v Flavio Cobolli (ITA) / Lorenzo Sonego (ITA)
Not Before: 3:00pm
2. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Julian Cash (GBR) / Maia Lumsden (GBR) v Henry Patten (GBR) / Olivia Nicholls (GBR)
Not Before: 3:00pm
3. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Lloyd Glasspool (GBR) / Harriet Dart (GBR) v Fabrice Martin (FRA) / Cristina Bucsa (ESP)
Not Before: 4:30pm
4. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Robert Galloway (USA) / Ingrid Neel (EST) v Jamie Murray (GBR) / Taylor Townsend (USA)
Not Before: 4:30pm
5. Mixed Doubles - First Round
Harri Heliovaara (FIN) / Gabriela Dabrowski (CAN) v Michael Venus (NZL) / Erin Routliffe (NZL) [2]

The Committee, while adhering as closely as possible to the order of play given, is unable to guarantee that it will be maintained in its entirety.
This may result in matches being moved from one court to another. DENISE PARNELL - REFEREE

by skatingfan It's hard to believe that were already into Junior matches.

by mick1303 Why are they starting new matches before letting finish matches from yesterday?

by Owendonovan This will be Ben's last 5 set win, then he's out in 3 in his next match.

by Fastbackss

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:13 pm Why are they starting new matches before letting finish matches from yesterday?

Typically it's dependent on when the players got interrupted the prior day. There is a minimum gap required.

by Fastbackss Zverev just took a nasty slide/fall trying to reach a drop shot.

He is back playing now but still gingerly moving his knee.

by mick1303

Fastbackss wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:26 pm

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:13 pm Why are they starting new matches before letting finish matches from yesterday?

Typically it's dependent on when the players got interrupted the prior day. There is a minimum gap required.

I reckon the rain started simultaneously on all courts yesterday... But somehow the matches are treated differently

by Fastbackss Raducanu pulled out of mixed doubles which means Sir Andy is done at Wimbledon

by Owendonovan

Fastbackss wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:01 pm Raducanu pulled out of mixed doubles which means Sir Andy is done at Wimbledon

This is a bad PR move.

by Suliso Yet another demonstration on how much weaker Swiatek is on grass compared to clay. And some still say all surfaces similar...

by skatingfan

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 1:44 pm I reckon the rain started simultaneously on all courts yesterday... But somehow the matches are treated differently

Matches that are resuming from yesterday are usually scheduled at least second on the same court the next day.

by nelslus LOL, the hideously annoying Putintseva found a way to do the Lord's work today.

by skatingfan

nelslus wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:39 pm LOL, the hideously annoying Putintseva found a way to do the Lord's work today.

I'm tempted to ask who your 'Lord & Saviour is', but I don't want to crash the site.

by nelslus

skatingfan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:49 pm

nelslus wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:39 pm LOL, the hideously annoying Putintseva found a way to do the Lord's work today.

I'm tempted to ask who your 'Lord & Saviour is', but I don't want to crash the site.

.....You REALLY have to ask.....

Madison Brengle.

by jazzyg Struff missed his opportunity. He played awful in every department for the first two sets yesterday against Medvedev, and that was a hole too far to clime out of when he picked up his game. He won the third set yesterday and was up 3-1 in the fourth-set tiebreak before losing six points in a row, struggling to get his first serve in.

Medvedev played well from start to finish, but this was disappointing. I guess that's why Struff has not done anything in slams. He served much worse than he had in any other match I saw him play this year, including against Sinner in Halle.

by ponchi101

Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:52 pm Yet another demonstration on how much weaker Swiatek is on grass compared to clay. And some still say all surfaces similar...

We say all surfaces have become more similar, not identical. In 1985, playing on grass was a totally different process than on clay. Nowadays, the difference is not so marked.
Iga remains a great, great champion on clay. She is already among the GOAT on that surface. But, once off it, she become a very good player. She will win more slams off clay, but her claim to greatness will reside there. That extreme grip will always hinder her.
I will not be surprised if she never conquers W.

by mick1303 Come on now. She is FAR from clay court specialist. Slam on HC, YEC on HC, out of 10 (!!!) masters - 6 on HC and 4 on clay.

by mick1303 Her Wimbledon "struggles" IMO are the function of her success at RG. In her case winning Wimbledon means winning channel slam. Not easy.

by ponchi101

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Come on now. She is FAR from clay court specialist. Slam on HC, YEC on HC, out of 10 (!!!) masters - 6 on HC and 4 on clay.

Not saying she is not very, very good off clay. But it is not the same quality. On clay she is truly without peers.

by meganfernandez

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:06 pm

Fastbackss wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:01 pm Raducanu pulled out of mixed doubles which means Sir Andy is done at Wimbledon

This is a bad PR move.

One of my first thoughts. I mean, the schedule was unworkable as it turned out - she couldn't go on late tonight and 2nd tomorrow in singles. No one should expect that. Would hav been nice for Andy to back her up or W to schedule her singles last on tomorrow, if it would have mattered.

It's also possible Andy decided not to play, but then he shouldn't have let her take all the heat. The way Judy responded, it doesn't sound like Andy was part of the decision.

by JTContinental You kind of know the risk partnering with someone who pulls out of a lot of tournaments for little to no reason.

by ti-amie I feel that both Boris Becker and Judy Murray have been in tennis world long enough to know how the behind the scenes game is played and that their statements show this blindsided the Murray camp.

It's not as if the players get the schedule the same time we the public do. If there was any doubt on Raducanu's part she should've been up front about it so that another player could've been chosen if she opted to drop out, especially after her win against Sakkari.

I agree with JTC that she is totally unreliable when it comes to keeping commitments. She's stiffed people in tennis and out of tennis often pulling out of events because she "doesn't feel like it".

I wonder of the LTA wanted this doubles pairing and forced Murray's hand to make him choose her. However it went down it's a bad PR move for Raducanu who has done nothing to widen her fan base.

by nelslus Guys. This ain't a Wars Crime level incident here. Among other surgeries last year- Emma had surgery on this right wrist last year. NO one here knows all that her body has put her through. However, again, we do know she has had multiple surgeries- which would be very scary for anyone of any age. I do not at all feel that it is fair to just say that Emma has dropped out of tennis matches and responsibilities just because she feels like it. Many players have dropped out of doubles- right or wrong- for many reasons. Emma made a professional decision.

Sure, Emma should most definitely never have agreed to this. IMO, it is a shame that she can't just have a fully nice moment here. YAY!!!! if folks boo her now on court.

And, I am sorry, but this time, Judy Murray is wrong to call this out, period. Stay in your own lane, and let your 37 year old son handle his own business. She knows damned well how bad the internet will be to Emma about this as is. You do not need to set flames to all of this. AND, Judy- you are my age- 64 years old, vs. 21 year old Emma. Classless.

I also get that, objectively, Emma has made quite questionable decisions- including the zillion coaches. And, I am also sick and tired of the constant Emma! Emma! drama.

by skatingfan This whole thing is reminding of Graf/McEnroe back in the day.

by nelslus

skatingfan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:26 am This whole thing is reminding of Graf/McEnroe back in the day.

Yup. Except, except in McEnroe's camp- Steffi didn't have to face any particular backlash- which, sure, I would agree with- not being any kind of fan of Steffi. Plus- anything that infuriated McEnroe was always a joy for me. Both Steffi and Emma want/wanted to have the best chance to win the singles title.

by nelslus

ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:06 am I feel that both Boris Becker and Judy Murray have been in tennis world long enough to know how the behind the scenes game is played and that their statements show this blindsided the Murray camp.

It's not as if the players get the schedule the same time we the public do. If there was any doubt on Raducanu's part she should've been up front about it so that another player could've been chosen if she opted to drop out, especially after her win against Sakkari.

I agree with JTC that she is totally unreliable when it comes to keeping commitments. She's stiffed people in tennis and out of tennis often pulling out of events because she "doesn't feel like it".

I wonder of the LTA wanted this doubles pairing and forced Murray's hand to make him choose her. However it went down it's a bad PR move for Raducanu who has done nothing to widen her fan base.

....OK, if Boris Becker is now gonna be our guide on etiquette here....

by ponchi101 Special circumstances make things different.
Emma should be very well aware of her physical limitations. Knowing them, she should have made provisions for reaching 4R and being in the mixed tournament.
Not classless, but Murray deserved a bit better. He could have partnered with other players, had he known this.

by Suliso

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Come on now. She is FAR from clay court specialist. Slam on HC, YEC on HC, out of 10 (!!!) masters - 6 on HC and 4 on clay.

She's a dominant power on clay, a top 3 on hard and outside the top 20 on grass. Don't you think that's fair?

And talking about great champions Osaka is the same. Not in the top 10 on grass and clay (results wise at least).

by mick1303

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:18 am

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Come on now. She is FAR from clay court specialist. Slam on HC, YEC on HC, out of 10 (!!!) masters - 6 on HC and 4 on clay.

She's a dominant power on clay, a top 3 on hard and outside the top 20 on grass. Don't you think that's fair?

And talking about great champions Osaka is the same. Not in the top 10 on grass and clay (results wise at least).

I do not agree with "top 3 on hard". In my estimate she is clearly #1 on hard as well. Swiatek has a record on hard 138-38 (78.4%)
You probably had Sabalenka and Osaka as other two?
Sabalenka has a record 194-79(71.04%). Osaka has 140-66(67.96%). The gap is so significant that for me she is clearly above those two.
I ran a weighted ranking comparison for WTA 2020-2024 (for hardcourts only). What stood out for me is that Swiatek won over 28% of the tournaments she enteres. Sabalenka won 14%. Yes, Osaka has 4 slams. But this is a distant past now...

by ponchi101 I don't mind your numbers to support your claim of Iga being, currently, also the #1 player on hards. But her claim to GOAT on clay is building up at a very fast pace, while her results on hards are slower. That is solely my point. Iga by now is not competing against the current crop, she is starting to gun for records held by previous greats. On clay, she will get much more. On hards, the loot will not be so extensive.
On grass, as Suliso says, she is not impressive. And her preparation leads to these results.

by FredX

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 2:49 am Special circumstances make things different.
Emma should be very well aware of her physical limitations. Knowing them, she should have made provisions for reaching 4R and being in the mixed tournament.
Not classless, but Murray deserved a bit better. He could have partnered with other players, had he known this.

I think it cuts both ways - Murray could have partnered with other players if he was serious about winning mixed doubles (assuming he could find a serious doubles player who was willing to partner with him - since serious doubles players actually want to win the tournament). Raducanu was picked because of her star power - because this pairing was about giving the British fans a chance to clap for Andy one more time, not about a serious title run.

I don't care if the wrist thing is a completely BS excuse, she did right thing. This Wimbledon run could be career-defining (re-defining?) for her, and this is what singles players do when they have a real chance to go deep at a slam. She doesn't owe Murray a damn thing in this whole business, and she certainly can't be expected to be his PR sidekick for an extended goodbye celebration at the expense of her own career and future. As for the British fans, she owes them nothing in this regard either. They're really hard on their players (remember what they put Henman through?). Had she played and then were she to lose the next round, the press would have criticized her for not being serious enough about her own career. She was in an impossible situation really, I wouldn't be suprised if she had reservations from the start, but felt she couldn't possibly say no to Sir Andy in the first place (can you imagine the backlash if she turned him down?)

The classiest thing for Andy to do right now would be to fully support her decision. He's the single greatest advocate for women the men's game has ever had, a perfect way to put a period on his career would be champion Raducanu's decision to put her own career ahead of propping him up in "exhibition" mixed doubles.

by nelslus

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:01 am

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:18 am

mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:25 pm Come on now. She is FAR from clay court specialist. Slam on HC, YEC on HC, out of 10 (!!!) masters - 6 on HC and 4 on clay.

She's a dominant power on clay, a top 3 on hard and outside the top 20 on grass. Don't you think that's fair?

And talking about great champions Osaka is the same. Not in the top 10 on grass and clay (results wise at least).

I do not agree with "top 3 on hard". In my estimate she is clearly #1 on hard as well. Swiatek has a record on hard 138-38 (78.4%)
You probably had Sabalenka and Osaka as other two?
Sabalenka has a record 194-79(71.04%). Osaka has 140-66(67.96%). The gap is so significant that for me she is clearly above those two.
I ran a weighted ranking comparison for WTA 2020-2024 (for hardcourts only). What stood out for me is that Swiatek won over 28% of the tournaments she enteres. Sabalenka won 14%. Yes, Osaka has 4 slams. But this is a distant past now...

BTW, concerning CURRENT form- I was assuming we all were going with Coco as the current other top 3 hard court player. I mean, LOL, for all I know, Coco has a 10-74 HC lifetme record. But, making the current US Open winner and most recent Aussie SF.....IMO, Naomi still has a long way to go to be considered anywhere near the top in any category.

by Suliso Osaka belongs only historically. I was thinking Swiatek, Sabalenka, Gauff and Rybakina (in no particular oder) as a class above the rest on hard right now.

by mick1303

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:33 pm Osaka belongs only historically. I was thinking Swiatek, Sabalenka, Gauff and Rybakina (in no particular oder) as a class above the rest on hard right now.

Sabalenka has 6 big titles on hard, 5 if you exclude Zhuhai. Swiatek has 8, Rybakina has only one, Coco has 2. And Sabalenka is 4 years older than Swiatek. Nope, not the same level. Swiatek is clearly separated herself.