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Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
by ponchi101
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:36 pm
by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:29 pm
I saw Badosa had called the trainer to do something with her leg..calf region...so yes, an injury
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:38 pm
by ashkor87
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 12:41 pm
Going back to when she trailed Halep a set and a break, Zheng has won 19 of her last 20 games.
That's quite the run.
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:29 pm
I saw Badosa had called the trainer to do something with her leg..calf region...so yes, an injury
Zheng is really something..I, atleast, have been overlooking her..maybe she is the one to challenge Swiatek!
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:46 pm
by JazzNU
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:29 pm
I saw Badosa had called the trainer to do something with her leg..thigh region...so yes, an injury
I believe they are saying it's a knee injury. Her MTO was in the first set when she was down 2-5 and didn't look like it was that serious. And she was not treated before she retired from the match. Her knee wasn't taped, and nothing else was either. She wasn't limping, she wasn't hobbled, she wasn't moving slow between points or favoring anything and she was still chasing balls down like she typically would. She wasn't playing in a limited way at all. This retirement came out of nowhere.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 2:59 pm
by dryrunguy
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:30 pm
Missed the Giorgi match though..anyone see what happened?
Camila simply couldn't miss in the second and third sets. Sabalenka was nothing more than a spectator after the first set. It was brutal.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 3:02 pm
by Suliso
Somehow it happens again and again with Sabalenka at GS level...
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 3:09 pm
by dmforever
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:59 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:30 pm
Missed the Giorgi match though..anyone see what happened?
Camila simply couldn't miss in the second and third sets. Sabalenka was nothing more than a spectator after the first set. It was brutal.
So it was Giorgi playing great and not Sabalenka misfiring? 1 and 0 after the first set was hard for me to believe when I woke up this morning.
Kevin
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 3:10 pm
by dryrunguy
dmforever wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 3:09 pm
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:59 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:30 pm
Missed the Giorgi match though..anyone see what happened?
Camila simply couldn't miss in the second and third sets. Sabalenka was nothing more than a spectator after the first set. It was brutal.
So it was Giorgi playing great and not Sabalenka misfiring? 1 and 0 after the first set was hard for me to believe when I woke up this morning.
Kevin
I was doing other things around the house at the time. But my sense of the match was that, if Sabalenka got her racquet on the ball, the error was forced by Camila's pace of shot. Perhaps someone else watched more closely.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 3:16 pm
by JazzNU
dmforever wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 3:09 pm
dryrunguy wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:59 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:30 pm
Missed the Giorgi match though..anyone see what happened?
Camila simply couldn't miss in the second and third sets. Sabalenka was nothing more than a spectator after the first set. It was brutal.
So it was Giorgi playing great and not Sabalenka misfiring? 1 and 0 after the first set was hard for me to believe when I woke up this morning.
Kevin
Definitely Giorgi playing great. She was a freight train. In the zone that we typically only see from her every once in a while on a hard or grass court. Surprising, but yeah, she was on fire today.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 4:34 pm
by Deuce
Giorgi was playing extremely well in the 2nd and 3rd sets.
Sabalenka was playing extremely poorly in the 2nd and 3rd sets.
That combination created a huge chasm between the quality of play of the two players.
It seems that Sabalenka self-destructs as soon as her opponent starts playing well. She can't handle it mentally. This shows that her self-confidence is very fragile. And when that happens, she plays like a 3.5 level club player.
More evidence of the increasing fragility of today's players...
Two in-match retirements for the women today (Cornet and Badosa), and Goffin was limping his way through most of the final two sets vs. Hurcacz.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
by patrick
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:31 pm
by mick1303
patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
This is wrong. Badosa retired 7 times prior to this Roland Garros. Maybe Puig counted juniors, qualification, challengers, etc.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:37 pm
by Deuce
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 5:31 pm
patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
This is wrong. Badosa retired 7 times prior to this Roland Garros. Maybe Puig counted juniors, qualification, challengers, etc.
Even if Juniors, Challengers, Qualies, etc. are counted, 25 in-match retirements is still excessive for a 24 year old who is supposed to be in very good physical condition.
And, yes, ALL matches should be counted in such a statistic, because a match is a match, whether it's played at the WTA, ITF, or Junior level... main draw and qualies. I don't see any differences when it comes to how often a player has retired in-match.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 5:41 pm
by ponchi101
patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 5:31 pm
patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
This is wrong. Badosa retired 7 times prior to this Roland Garros. Maybe Puig counted juniors, qualification, challengers, etc.
I will trust you more than Monica, although she has been fairly reliable. I thought it was too much, but since she is broadcasting for ESPN, I thought somebody must have fed her the info.
7 times is still considerable.
Re: '22 RG Day 7 OoP & Discussion
Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 6:38 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote:patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 2:32 pm
Monica Puig is pointing out that, with Badosa's exit (after Sabalenka's), there is only one top 10 player left in the draw. By the end of the 3rd round.
Puig also says that Badosa has retired from a match 25 TIMES IN HER CAREER.
That is insane, and there is no way it can be due to injuries of relevance. If that were the case, she would have been on IR way too much.
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 5:31 pm
patrick wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:58 pm
Please provide Badosa 25 times she has retired
R32 French Open Kudermetova
This is wrong. Badosa retired 7 times prior to this Roland Garros. Maybe Puig counted juniors, qualification, challengers, etc.
I will trust you more than Monica, although she has been fairly reliable. I thought it was too much, but since she is broadcasting for ESPN, I thought somebody must have fed her the info.
7 times is still considerable.
An average of 1 retirement per year isn’t excessive IMO. She turned pro 7 years ago.
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