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Leylah not playing? injury more serious than it seemed? would be sad because I had tentatively picked her as favorite for Wimbledon..!

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:53 am Leylah not playing? injury more serious than it seemed? would be sad because I had tentatively picked her as favorite for Wimbledon..!

Check the 'Injury and Illness' topic - 2 posts there about Leylah.

one early indicator is - who is a natural grass-court player but has played better than expected on clay? that person is in form, mwy do very well when the conidtions also suit him/her.. so on the Men's side, I would have said Medvedev, on the women's, Leylah.. sadly, neither is playing!
so who is left?
Cilic and Bencic, perhaps

oliver0001 wrote:Once again neither of the Williams sisters on the entry lists. I wonder whether they will ever play again. Funny sidenote: just like Wimbledon, they don't seem to explain their decisions...

My guess is no but I’d think Venus is more likely than Serena, because she plays for the love of competition. Serena has been playing only for the record and I doubt she is motivated anymore


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martini4me wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 3:14 am What is the point of putting a "seed" number beside the first 32 players? That won't (necessarily) be their seeding, it's their ranking at the moment.

Probably somebody just doing a quick COPY/PASTE job on the fly.

oliver0001 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:22 am Once again neither of the Williams sisters on the entry lists. I wonder whether they will ever play again. Funny sidenote: just like Wimbledon, they don't seem to explain their decisions...

They still have time. I am sure that if either Williams decides to play just a few days before the tournament starts, the Wild Cards will be available. And rightly so.

oliver0001 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 5:22 am Once again neither of the Williams sisters on the entry lists. I wonder whether they will ever play again. Funny sidenote: just like Wimbledon, they don't seem to explain their decisions...

Not that funny. Unlike Wimbledon, they don't owe anyone an explanation and aren't running a tournament in 3 weeks and missing preset dates for providing event information.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:23 am one early indicator is - who is a natural grass-court player but has played better than expected on clay? that person is in form, mwy do very well when the conidtions also suit him/her.. so on the Men's side, I would have said Medvedev, on the women's, Leylah.. sadly, neither is playing!
so who is left?
Cilic and Bencic, perhaps

Leylah doesn't have much experience on grass.
I suppose no-one who's been a pro for less than 10 years really has much experience on grass, due to the shortness of the season and the rarity of grass courts around the world...
I don't think Leylah played any grass court tournaments in her last year in Juniors (2019)... then 2020 was out because of COVID-19... so she has only a little bit last year as recent experience on grass.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:23 am one early indicator is - who is a natural grass-court player but has played better than expected on clay? that person is in form, mwy do very well when the conidtions also suit him/her.. so on the Men's side, I would have said Medvedev, on the women's, Leylah.. sadly, neither is playing!
so who is left?
Cilic and Bencic, perhaps

Nobody fits that description. People that come to mind as "good" grass players did not do well during the clay season. Shapo did poorly, and he seems to like grass. Hurkacz may be a factor, with a bit of extra experience.
You are correct that Medvedev could do well, but he won't play. On the women's side, if RG was basically a non-ending trick question, who knows what grass will do to that lot. I say Kontaveit will do a bit better than her last months, and even that may be a stretch.

I agree..Hurkacz and Kontaveit will do well...

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:23 am one early indicator is - who is a natural grass-court player but has played better than expected on clay? that person is in form, mwy do very well when the conidtions also suit him/her.. so on the Men's side, I would have said Medvedev, on the women's, Leylah.. sadly, neither is playing!
so who is left?
Cilic and Bencic, perhaps

maybe FAA is one player who did better than expected on clay and is a natural fast-court player.. Sinner is another, assuming he is fit and well.. Coco too, actually - not a natural clay-courter, and Sloane..I never think of her as a clay court player, her speed and footwork and reflexes are more of a fast-court player's arsenal - unlike most people, I do think of Madison as a good clay-courter, mainly because on offense, she has the power and on defense, she is a bit slow of foot, which doesnt hurt her as much on clay..so I dont expect her to do better on grass than on clay - the opposite, if anything!

The problem with Maddie is her inconsistency. She is not a player that improvises well; she improvises, but usually it is not for a happy ending. Shots wise, she should have won a slam already. But there is something else that makes her so unpredictable.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:15 pm The problem with Maddie is her inconsistency. She is not a player that improvises well; she improvises, but usually it is not for a happy ending. Shots wise, she should have won a slam already. But there is something else that makes her so unpredictable.

Her footwork is not good enough...

Let's hope his doctor can work at least one more miracle.

ponchi101 wrote:Let's hope his doctor can work at least one more miracle.

I can’t imagine getting injections into the nerve every day. Murder.


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