by ti-amie Junior Boys Singles

FRA G. DEBRU 1
vs GBR L. BOWDEN WC
JPN H. MATSUOKA Q vs USA A. KIM Q
USA. M. ZHENG vs AUS H. JONES Q
PAR M. VERGARA DEL PUERTO vs CZE J. NICOD 16

CRO D. PRIZMIC 9 vs THA T. NIRUNDORN
USA J. BRASWELL Q vs HKG C. WONG
GBR B. GUSIC WAN WC vs SVK P. PRIVARA
SUI D. DIETRICH vs USA N. BASAVAREDDY 5

PER G. BUENO 4 vs ARG J. LA SERNA
NZL J. LOUTIT Q vs USA L. TIEN
FRA P. BARBIER GAZEU vs NAM C. VAN SCHALKWYK
GBR P. BRADY WC vs POL M. PAWELSKI 15

ESP M. LANDALUCE 10 vs KOR G. CAMPANA LEE
AUS E. WINTER Q vs USA A. MICHELSEN
BOL J. PRADO ANGELO vs GBR W. JANSEN WC
USA N. GODSICK vs BEL G. BAILLY 7


SUI K. FELDBAUSCH 6 vs USA L. BOIKA Q
CZE H. BARTON vs FRA A. GEA
GBR P. WEIR WC vs BEL A. BLOCKX
USA C. WILLIAMS vs PER I. BUSE 12

ARG L. MIDON 13 vs BRA J. FONSECA
USA S. GORZNY vs GBR V. FRYDRYCH WC
SVK P. NAD vs CAN J. WEEKES
AUS J. JIN vs CRO M. POLJICAK 3

LTU E. BUTVILAS 8 vs SUI M. BRUNOLD
POL O. PIECZKOWSKI vs USA O. COLAK
MKD K. IVANOVSKI vs GBR L. POW WC
BEL A. BASILE vs MEX R. PACHECO MENDEZ 11

SLO B. ARTNAK 14 vs FRA P. INCHAUSPE
USA A. FRUSINA vs JPN L. JONES Q
ESP P. RODENAS vs CRO M. DODIG
GBR H. SEARLE WC vs CZE J. MENSIK 2

by Cuckoo4Coco I have a question about the Juniors. Do they show some of these matches on ESPN or even ESPN+?

I would love to watch some of these matches.

by ti-amie Junior Girls Draw Singles

USA L. HOVDE 1
vs GBR R. STOIBER
BEL A. WALIGORA vs UKR A. LOPATA
SVK I. BALUS vs SRB A. OBRADOVIC
SUI C. FONTENEL vs CAN K. CROSS 13

CZE T. VALENTOVA 12 vs JPN S. ISHII
GER E. SEIDEL vs PER L. PEREZ ALARCON
TPE Y. LI Q vs GBR H. KLUGMAN WC
NED I. VAN DEN BROEK LL vs AUS T. PRESTON 6

SVK N. DAUBNEROVA 4 vs CZE D. SALKOVA
RSA I. KRUGER Q vs USA S. MACAVEI
GBR M. XU WC vs GER C. KUHL
THA L. TARARUDEE vs ARG L. PEYRE 15

DEN J. SVENDSEN 11 vs USA M. SLAMA
JPN S. SAITO vs POL O. LINCER
CZE J. STRUPLOVA vs GBR E. MCDONALD WC
GBR S. JOHNSON Q vs CAN V. MBOKO 5


HUN L. UDVARDY 7 vs GBR D. PIANI Q
USA A. BLOKHINA vs KAZ S. KENZHIBAYEVA Q
GBR T. NEILSON GATENBY WC vs SVK N. VARGOVA
CZE K. TOMAJKOVA vs CAN A. XU 10

CRO L. CIRIC BAGARIC 14 vs NED R. NIJKAMP
ITA G. PEDONE vs BEL A. VAN IMPE
POL W. EWALD Q vs GBR H. OLUWADARE WC
TUR A. MERT vs CZE N. BARTUNKOVA 3

USA Q. LOPEZ 8 vs BUL D. GLUSHKOVA
JPN H. KINOSHITA vs USA K. QUEVEDO Q
SVK R. JAMRICHOVA vs GBR J. CONWAY WC
SLO E. MILIC Q vs ARG L. MOYANO 9

CZE L. KLIMOVICOVA 16 vs GRE M. LAKI
GER J. STEUR vs GBR I. LACY WC
CAN M. KUPRES vs KEN A. OKUTOYI
GBR S. TATU WC vs SUI C. NAEF 2

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:03 pm Junior Girls Draw Singles

USA L. HOVDE 1
vs GBR R. STOIBER
BEL A. WALIGORA vs UKR A. LOPATA
SVK I. BALUS vs SRB A. OBRADOVIC
SUI C. FONTENEL vs CAN K. CROSS 13

CZE T. VALENTOVA 12 vs JPN S. ISHII
GER E. SEIDEL vs PER L. PEREZ ALARCON
TPE Y. LI Q vs GBR H. KLUGMAN WC
NED I. VAN DEN BROEK LL vs AUS T. PRESTON 6

SVK N. DAUBNEROVA 4 vs CZE D. SALKOVA
RSA I. KRUGER Q vs USA S. MACAVEI
GBR M. XU WC vs GER C. KUHL
THA L. TARARUDEE vs ARG L. PEYRE 15

DEN J. SVENDSEN 11 vs USA M. SLAMA
JPN S. SAITO vs POL O. LINCER
CZE J. STRUPLOVA vs GBR E. MCDONALD WC
GBR S. JOHNSON Q vs CAN V. MBOKO 5


HUN L. UDVARDY 7 vs GBR D. PIANI Q
USA A. BLOKHINA vs KAZ S. KENZHIBAYEVA Q
GBR T. NEILSON GATENBY WC vs SVK N. VARGOVA
CZE K. TOMAJKOVA vs CAN A. XU 10

CRO L. CIRIC BAGARIC 14 vs NED R. NIJKAMP
ITA G. PEDONE vs BEL A. VAN IMPE
POL W. EWALD Q vs GBR H. OLUWADARE WC
TUR A. MERT vs CZE N. BARTUNKOVA 3

USA Q. LOPEZ 8 vs BUL D. GLUSHKOVA
JPN H. KINOSHITA vs USA K. QUEVEDO Q
SVK R. JAMRICHOVA vs GBR J. CONWAY WC
SLO E. MILIC Q vs ARG L. MOYANO 9

CZE L. KLIMOVICOVA 16 vs GRE M. LAKI
GER J. STEUR vs GBR I. LACY WC
CAN M. KUPRES vs KEN A. OKUTOYI
GBR S. TATU WC vs SUI C. NAEF 2
^ Canada has 3 seeds (out of 16). The same number as the Czech Republic, and more than the USA.

Of Canada's 3 seeds, Victoria Mboko is the one to watch. In my opinion, she's the one who has the potential for a decent pro career at this point.

by atlpam
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:51 pm I have a question about the Juniors. Do they show some of these matches on ESPN or even ESPN+?

I would love to watch some of these matches.
They usually show junior matches on either ESPN3 or ESPN+

by Cuckoo4Coco
atlpam wrote: Sat Jul 02, 2022 2:20 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Fri Jul 01, 2022 10:51 pm I have a question about the Juniors. Do they show some of these matches on ESPN or even ESPN+?

I would love to watch some of these matches.
They usually show junior matches on either ESPN3 or ESPN+
Thanks, yeah I see they have some of them on ESPN+. I will be watching some of them for sure.

by ti-amie

by Deuce Canadian Kayla Cross was behind 4-9 in the 3rd set 10 point tiebreak to Chelsea Fontenel of Switzerland.
So Fontenel needed only 1 point to win the match.
Cross won the next 7 points in a row, and won the tiebreak 11-9.
Bravo. :D

by Deuce Canadian Jaden Weekes lost a tough one to the #3 seed Mili Poljicak of Croatia - 5-7, 6-7 today.
Jaden is a really good kid - very polite and authentic. Reminds me somewhat of Felix in his demeanour. I hope he makes it at the pro level.

by Cuckoo4Coco I love watching these girls play cuz they are right around my age. I watched a match yesterday and one of the players was my age (16) and the other (17). Watching them play to my surprise I really think I could hit with them. Now I don't know if I could win a match against them and probably not, but I am pretty sure I would not be blown off the court by these players.

Now players like Coco, Leylah, Emma, Amanda I would be blown off the court by them. Yeah I could hit with them no doubt, but at this point in my tennis I highly doubt I could win a game off of any of these pros unless I was really lucky.

by Cuckoo4Coco Coming back from my practice I quickly turned on one of the Juniors Girls matches and man I got quickly upset by what I saw. The match was between a 14 year old girl named Isabelle Britton and Marie Badache who is also 14 years old. Britton had won the first set already 6-2 before I turned it on. Badache was running for a stretch baseline shot when she went down awkwardly and definitely hurt her hip and back. She immediately got attention on the sideline from the physio and because they were Juniors both Mom and Dad were also there and they also acted as translators. You could see Badache was in real pain , but her parents seem to encourage her to continue. She went on to go down in the 2nd set 3-0 and called the head referee out and said she wanted to talk with her parents again. She was crying at this time. She went over to her parents with the head referee and the mom continued to encourage her to play. Badache went out and she was visibly not doing well physically and emotionally she was a mess. She was crying on the court between points, but she kept on going. She went onto lose the 2nd set 6-0 and burst into tears after the match. I was so mad and upset seeing this. As soon as the match was over the Psysio can out onto the court to assist her. Her parents should be ashamed of themselves.


Also the 14's play the regular 2 out of 3 sets.

by ponchi101 I forget the movie. It was a TRUE LIFE story, about a chess prodigy. Almost by the end, at a tournament (climax of the film) you see one administrator giving a pep talk: no cheating, treat opponents with respect, any complaints must be via the referees.
Then they flip the cameras. He is delivering the rules to THE PARENTS.
Later on, something happens. Again, they show the same initial administrator giving a stern lecture. You broke the rules, you are going to be locked here (a basement) until play is over.
Again, to the parents.
The scene continues. He tells all the kids that their parents are locked downstairs, and play can resume. A little girl looks at him and says "thank you".
The parent from hell. He exists.
---0---
Personal story. I was playing with this 13 yo hotshot, pretty cool kid with great strokes, but a bit on the short side. It is close. Then I play this point: I serve wide to his BH (ad court),he gets to it and blasts a return, but right at me. I volley to the open court, he gets there and is forced to throw a lob, which I smash, to the opposite side, for a winner. His father, standing behind him, yells "Run! You have to run!"
Both the kid and I looked at each other, and laughed. Because we were all friends (his dad was not the parent from hell, this time) I yell at him "did you see what I just did? NOBODY would have reached that ball!"
No harm.
Some time later, I am playing the dad. I basically play the same, exact point. I hit the smash, and, from behind the dad, I hear his kid yell: "RUN! You have to run!!!!".
I frigging crack up, his dad looks at him, and the kid tells him "You see how tough it is to play this (choice words about my mom)? You have to RUN!"
Revenge. Best served cold.

by Cuckoo4Coco I didn't think these 14's matches were televised and they are on ESPN+ and I am enjoying watching them. These girls who are 2 years younger than me I could definitely be on the court with them and from the looks of it beat them. Now I am small, but these kids a lot of them even look skinnier than me or at least the same size as me. They don't look like they hit the ball any harder than I do. Now they are 2 years younger than me so that makes a huge bit of difference. But even the girls that I have seen playing in the regular Junior event that are 16 and 17 years old I could at least hold my own and hit with them. I doubt if I'd win those matches, but I could be on the court with them for sure.

Sometimes when these big events come along and I get to watch these Juniors play the thought comes into my head "What If". What if, I took that path to attend an academy and become a Junior player. Would I be one of these girls in London right now playing at Wimbledon? It crosses my mind. I practice a lot and feel I give a lot to my training as these girls probably do every single day. I just ask myself sometimes what is it extra that they do to be able to get where they are? Does it take hiring one of these super high profile tennis coaches or going to an academy? Does it take being home schooled or doing online school or even school at an academy? How do some of these young girls get endorsements? i know how I get my equipment and that is from my grandpa, but how do they get all this stuff? How do they get the money to travel to all these places? I wonder about all of this stuff. Maybe this is something I should ask my coach. My coach is a pretty successful local coach, but not like a high profile coach. He is successfully leading me on the path to a bright future in college, but as a kid these thoughts do enter my head.

by ti-amie Because of Deuce I've been following Victoria Mboko. I'm going to try and see the top junior seed Hovde tomorrow.

by Cuckoo4Coco Victoria Mboko won in 3 sets today and Hovde rolled in straight sets. I have watched a player named Luca Udvardy who is the #7 seed in this tournament and she is playing well and also rolled through to the SF's. Hovde and Mboko play each other in the one SF tomorrow.

by ponchi101
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:34 pm ...

Sometimes when these big events come along and I get to watch these Juniors play the thought comes into my head "What If". What if, I took that path to attend an academy and become a Junior player. Would I be one of these girls in London right now playing at Wimbledon? It crosses my mind. I practice a lot and feel I give a lot to my training as these girls probably do every single day. I just ask myself sometimes what is it extra that they do to be able to get where they are? Does it take hiring one of these super high profile tennis coaches or going to an academy? Does it take being home schooled or doing online school or even school at an academy? How do some of these young girls get endorsements? i know how I get my equipment and that is from my grandpa, but how do they get all this stuff? How do they get the money to travel to all these places? I wonder about all of this stuff. Maybe this is something I should ask my coach. My coach is a pretty successful local coach, but not like a high profile coach. He is successfully leading me on the path to a bright future in college, but as a kid these thoughts do enter my head.
At the same club where I played (above story) there was this other kid. Super talented. By 13, basically unbeatable.
Then his DAD (not him) decided he was going to be a pro. He dropped from school, and was at the club training, day in, day out. Not two hours, the full day. He seemed to be very much into it, and he was, I repeat, very talented. He had a name that was very similar to one of the top players in the world at the time (former #1), so it was easy to follow any sort of success.
He never made it past the challenger level. And I wonder what else he did, because his education was basically non-existent, in a continent in which having a College Degree guarantees nothing, but NOT having a college degree guarantees you will never make it anywhere (maybe you can become a businessman).
It is easy to see, for example, the Williams Sisters and get all caught up in that story. But people fail to see the other side, because that story does not get turned into a movie, is of no interest. There must be many, many young players that looked like future stars, and then, they met the other future stars, and so on. Remember: a pro will play for roughly a decade. But, at best, there will be 10 WImbledon winners in a decade (by definition). The number of players that will make it is minute. For every Serena (i.e. only one) there are thousands that somebody thought "she will make it" and then didn't.
Your plan is solid. IF you have the talent for the pros, you will be spotted once you get to your college. Remember that the US system produces good players. Collins, Brady, many others. If you will be bound for Wimbledon in 2026, your college coach will see that. If not, you will come out of college with a degree, hopefully in a field you will enjoy, and will have a lovely, professional life.
On top of being one very, very, very good tennis player.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:16 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:34 pm ...

Sometimes when these big events come along and I get to watch these Juniors play the thought comes into my head "What If". What if, I took that path to attend an academy and become a Junior player. Would I be one of these girls in London right now playing at Wimbledon? It crosses my mind. I practice a lot and feel I give a lot to my training as these girls probably do every single day. I just ask myself sometimes what is it extra that they do to be able to get where they are? Does it take hiring one of these super high profile tennis coaches or going to an academy? Does it take being home schooled or doing online school or even school at an academy? How do some of these young girls get endorsements? i know how I get my equipment and that is from my grandpa, but how do they get all this stuff? How do they get the money to travel to all these places? I wonder about all of this stuff. Maybe this is something I should ask my coach. My coach is a pretty successful local coach, but not like a high profile coach. He is successfully leading me on the path to a bright future in college, but as a kid these thoughts do enter my head.
At the same club where I played (above story) there was this other kid. Super talented. By 13, basically unbeatable.
Then his DAD (not him) decided he was going to be a pro. He dropped from school, and was at the club training, day in, day out. Not two hours, the full day. He seemed to be very much into it, and he was, I repeat, very talented. He had a name that was very similar to one of the top players in the world at the time (former #1), so it was easy to follow any sort of success.
He never made it past the challenger level. And I wonder what else he did, because his education was basically non-existent, in a continent in which having a College Degree guarantees nothing, but NOT having a college degree guarantees you will never make it anywhere (maybe you can become a businessman).
It is easy to see, for example, the Williams Sisters and get all caught up in that story. But people fail to see the other side, because that story does not get turned into a movie, is of no interest. There must be many, many young players that looked like future stars, and then, they met the other future stars, and so on. Remember: a pro will play for roughly a decade. But, at best, there will be 10 WImbledon winners in a decade (by definition). The number of players that will make it is minute. For every Serena (i.e. only one) there are thousands that somebody thought "she will make it" and then didn't.
Your plan is solid. IF you have the talent for the pros, you will be spotted once you get to your college. Remember that the US system produces good players. Collins, Brady, many others. If you will be bound for Wimbledon in 2026, your college coach will see that. If not, you will come out of college with a degree, hopefully in a field you will enjoy, and will have a lovely, professional life.
On top of being one very, very, very good tennis player.
Thank you and I think deep down I really know that but a lot of times I just need to hear it from time to time. I get that dream mentality in my head going and then all of the sudden I an watching these girls my age playing at Wimbledon or the US Open and I picture myself on the court and I am like wow that would be so cool. It is also gonna be so cool to attend college and learn and meet new people and play tennis at that level too. I know that.
You are so right though. I got these feelings and thoughts in my head when I watched the movie King Richard and you are so right that with every Serena and Venus there are 100's of future stars that never make it. You told me to stick to my goals and my coach wants me to do the same thing. I think being a kid sometimes it is easy to want to drift away from those goals and go right to the end, but listening to people who have been there and done that like my mom, grandparents, coach, and even now the adults on here is where I need to be. So if I ever seem to be going off that path and acting crazy just smack me back into shape and I will be all fine again. :lol:

by ponchi101 Billy Joel: "dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true"
(Vienna)

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:42 pm Billy Joel: "dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true"
(Vienna)
I do know who Billy Joel is and even though I never heard that quote it is so true.

by ashkor87 Haven't been following..but girls champions seem to go on to do well at the senior level..see Coco, Swiatek, Tauson, Osorio Serrano etc .not sure it happens with the boys ..just an impression, haven't done the research.. true or not? If true, why?

by Deuce
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:42 pm Billy Joel: "dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true"
(Vienna)
"Dream on... dream on... Dream until your dreams come true." - Aerosmith.

by Suliso
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:49 am Haven't been following..but girls champions seem to go on to do well at the senior level..see Coco, Swiatek, Tauson, Osorio Serrano etc .not sure it happens with the boys ..just an impression, haven't done the research.. true or not? If true, why?
Definitely true. Girls mature faster and at 16 or 17, the age of most top juniors, it's already partially clear who has a serious pro potential and who does not. Not so for boys. Federer was Wimbledon junior champion, but that's more of an exception not a rule.

by Suliso
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:16 pm At the same club where I played (above story) there was this other kid. Super talented. By 13, basically unbeatable.
Then his DAD (not him) decided he was going to be a pro. He dropped from school, and was at the club training, day in, day out. Not two hours, the full day. He seemed to be very much into it, and he was, I repeat, very talented. He had a name that was very similar to one of the top players in the world at the time (former #1), so it was easy to follow any sort of success.
He never made it past the challenger level. And I wonder what else he did, because his education was basically non-existent, in a continent in which having a College Degree guarantees nothing, but NOT having a college degree guarantees you will never make it anywhere (maybe you can become a businessman).
It is easy to see, for example, the Williams Sisters and get all caught up in that story. But people fail to see the other side, because that story does not get turned into a movie, is of no interest. There must be many, many young players that looked like future stars, and then, they met the other future stars, and so on. Remember: a pro will play for roughly a decade. But, at best, there will be 10 Wimbledon winners in a decade (by definition). The number of players that will make it is minute. For every Serena (i.e. only one) there are thousands that somebody thought "she will make it" and then didn't.
Your plan is solid. IF you have the talent for the pros, you will be spotted once you get to your college. Remember that the US system produces good players. Collins, Brady, many others. If you will be bound for Wimbledon in 2026, your college coach will see that. If not, you will come out of college with a degree, hopefully in a field you will enjoy, and will have a lovely, professional life.
On top of being one very, very, very good tennis player.
Absolutely the smartest way to go about it for vast majority of talented juniors. Particularly in a country like US where college education is otherwise expensive and coaching in college is good.

Of course some exceptions are there. Had Federer or Nadal gone to college instead they probably would not have won any Slams. I wonder could one have readily seen a difference between that 13 year old in your story and 13 year old Roger?

by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:31 am ...

Definitely true. Girls mature faster and at 16 or 17, the age of most top juniors, it's already partially clear who has a serious pro potential and who does not. Not so for boys. Federer was Wimbledon junior champion, but that's more of an exception not a rule.
If I remember correctly, there have been only three junior champs that also became Gentlemen's champs: Edberg, Cash and Federer. Look at Fucsovics: a Jr champ, and mired in the 40's in the ATP ranks. Mind you, a fine player, but has not been able to take that next step.
From Venezuela: our Nicolas Pereira won RG, W and the USO as a junior. Everybody felt he was going all the way. Best career ranking: 77. Total ATP titles: 1 (Newport).
The men's pros is a different kind of game.

by Cuckoo4Coco
Deuce wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:27 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:42 pm Billy Joel: "dream on, but don't imagine they'll all come true"
(Vienna)
"Dream on... dream on... Dream until your dreams come true." - Aerosmith.
I do actually know of Aerosmith and actually also that song. :D

by Cuckoo4Coco
Suliso wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:31 am
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:49 am Haven't been following..but girls champions seem to go on to do well at the senior level..see Coco, Swiatek, Tauson, Osorio Serrano etc .not sure it happens with the boys ..just an impression, haven't done the research.. true or not? If true, why?
Definitely true. Girls mature faster and at 16 or 17, the age of most top juniors, it's already partially clear who has a serious pro potential and who does not. Not so for boys. Federer was Wimbledon junior champion, but that's more of an exception not a rule.
I agree with this. I can hit with most of the boys that are my age. They might be a little stronger than I am, but the technique and definitely the maturity level on the court is nowhere near the same as me or the other girls my age. The thing is though it only takes a few years beyond that like girls in college and they are on a different level than I am with their strength and maturity level.

by Cuckoo4Coco Hovde defeats Mboko in straight sets to reach the Final.

by Cuckoo4Coco #1 seed Liv Hovde takes on #7 seed Luca Udvardy in the Junior Girls Final tomorrow. Both these girls are 16 and Liv is a perfect 10-0 on grass in 2022.

The good thing is my coach told me after today's practice that tomorrow will be watching that match together. It is supposed to pour down rain in my area all day tomorrow anyway and we usually take things indoors, but my coach had other ideas for tomorrow.

by ponchi101 Good idea. Analyzing a match helps a lot.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ponchi101 wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 6:42 pm Good idea. Analyzing a match helps a lot.
I think it will be. I have seen Luca play a match this tournament and she is a solid player. Liv Hovde is the #1 seeded player and I really want to see how she plays. She must be really good on the grass courts and a solid ground strokes hitter. She is undefeated on the grass courts this year. I am looking forward to it and looking forward to hearing things that my coach points out to me that these players do well.

by ti-amie
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:13 pm Hovde defeats Mboko in straight sets to reach the Final.
I was surprised it was in straight sets.

by Cuckoo4Coco
ti-amie wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:13 pm Hovde defeats Mboko in straight sets to reach the Final.
I was surprised it was in straight sets.
Tomorrow I am gonna see how good Liv really is. She is the same age as me, but actually like a half year older than me. I think both her and Luca Udvardy are going to be turning 17 later this year while I won't be turning 17 until May of next year.

by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:05 pm
Cuckoo4Coco wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:13 pm Hovde defeats Mboko in straight sets to reach the Final.
I was surprised it was in straight sets.
Mboko was down 1-5 in the 1st set, and almost drew even.
In the 2nd set, she was behind all the way, I think.
Hovde beat her at Roland Garros this year, as well.

Mboko is in the doubles final with fellow Canadian Kayla Cross. The two of them were also in the junior girls doubles final of the Aussie Open this year (which they lost).

She's been writing a little 'blog' thing on the ITF website - though not very frequently - only 2 instalments thus far...

Vicky Mboko Blog...

.

by Cuckoo4Coco Vicky Mboko from the little bit I have seen her play is a very awesome player as well.

I am up early this morning and my coach is here and we are ready to watch the Liv Hovde and Luca Udvardy match.

by Cuckoo4Coco One major thing I have noticed right off the bat that differs from the more mature ladies in the main draw is when these girls get down in points on their serve like 0-30 or 0-40 they don't come back to deuce like the main draw players seem to do a lot of the time. I understand that the nerves of these players early in this match must be tremendous so that is part of it. They are also playing in front of about 10,000 people.

Another thing is both of these girls have great ground strokes and use the court well. Liv Hovde hits a very deep ball which so far is putting a ton of pressure on Luca Udvardy.

by Cuckoo4Coco A very important thing that the commentators just said that my coach pointed out to me is they said they have to remind themselves that they are watching 16 & 17 year old kids and they are using every moment to learn. That they even though at a Wimbledon Juniors Final are still in the process of learning a lot of things.

by Cuckoo4Coco Liv Hovde is the Wimbledon Juniors Girl Champion defeating Luca Udvardy 6-3, 6-4. She only dropped 1 set the entire tournament and is now 12-0 on grass in 2022.

Luca Udvardy also had an awesome tournament.

Both of these girls have a very bright future.

by ponchi101 Remember we were talking about how many juniors make it to the pros. And, as expected, a final cut is then made.
And in the women's game, you have so many former champions that skipped the juniors completely because they were very good so early on. Although, that pattern has changed. Swiatek, Anisimova, Gauff had very good Jrs careers.

by Cuckoo4Coco The on court interview is great. This definitely would be me doing an on court interview after a match. A lot of um's and really quiet even right up against the microphone. Liv was awesome giving her answers because you could see she was so nervous. I think she was more nervous doing that than playing the match.

by Deuce Mboko and Cross lost another Major Final today in a tight match.
Still - reaching two Major doubles Finals as a team this year (thus far), and Mboko reaching the Semis of Junior Wimbledon bodes well for the future.

by Cuckoo4Coco
Deuce wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:05 pm Mboko and Cross lost another Major Final today in a tight match.
Still - reaching two Major doubles Finals as a team this year (thus far), and Mboko reaching the Semis of Junior Wimbledon bodes well for the future.
Kayla Cross was also the only girl to take Liv Hovde to 3 sets in this tournament.