by ashkor87 hmmm.. sounds like personal considerations to me. But it is also true that they have never actually done well in doubles anyway.
as someone on Reddit said - 'Badosa said no' !
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hmmm.. sounds like personal considerations to me. But it is also true that they have never actually done well in doubles anyway.
as someone on Reddit said - 'Badosa said no' !
That was actually my first thought as well...
by skatingfan Men's Singles Projected Olympic Entries
World Ranking
Entry Rank Name Country Entry
1 1 Jannik Sinner ITA 1
2 2 Novak Djokovic SRB 1
3 3 Carlos Alcaraz ESP 1
4 4 Daniil Medvedev RUS 1
5 5 Alexander Zverev GER 1
6 6 Andrey Rublev RUS 2
7 7 Hubert Hurkacz POL 1
8 8 Grigor Dimitrov BUL 1
9 9 Stefanos Tsitsipas GRE 1
10 10 Alex de Minaur AUS 1
11 11 Casper Ruud NOR 1
12 12 Taylor Fritz USA 1
13 13 Tommy Paul USA 2
14 14 Ben Shelton USA 3
15 15 Holger Rune DEN 1
16 16 Ugo Humbert FRA 1
17 17 Alexander Bublik KAZ 1
18 18 Felix Auger-Aliassime CAN 1
19 19 Sebastian Baez ARG 1
20 20 Nicolas Jarry CHI 1
21 21 Adrian Mannarino FRA 2
22 22 Karen Khachanov RUS 3
23 23 Tallon Griekspoor NED 1
24 24 Alejandro Tabilo CHI 2
25 25 Jiri Lehecka CZE 1
26 26 Sebastian Korda USA 4
27 27 Francisco Cerundolo ARG 2
28 29 Mariano Navone ARG 3
29 30 Lorenzo Musetti ITA 2
30 31 Tomas Martin Etcheverry ARG 4
31 32 Alejandro Davidovich Fokina ESP 2
32 33 Tomas Machac CZE 2
33 34 Matteo Arnaldi ITA 3
34 35 Jan Lennard Struff GER 2
35 36 Gael Monfils FRA 3
36 37 Jordan Thompson AUS 2
37 38 Arthur Fils FRA 4
38 39 Cameron Norrie GBR 1
39 40 Jack Draper GBR 2
40 41 Luciano Darderi ITA 4
41 42 Fabian Marozsan HUN 1
42 43 Roman Safiullin RUS 4
43 46 Pedro Martinez ESP 3
44 47 Nuno Borges POR 1
45 48 Alexei Popyrin AUS 3
46 49 Laslo Djere SRB 2
47 52 Sebastian Ofner AUT 1
48 53 Miomir Kecmanovic SRB 3
49 55 Marton Fucsovics HUN 2
50 57 Duasn Lajovic SRB 4
51 59 Alexander Shevchenko KAZ 2
52 64 Daniel Evans GBR 3
53 PR Denis Shapovalov CAN 2
54 PR Kei Nishikori JPN 1
55 PR Rafael Nadal ESP 4
56 PR Marin Cilic CRO 1
Continental Places
Af1 Moez Echargui TUN 1
Am1 Thiago Monteiro BRA 2
Am2 Tomas Barrios Vera CHI 1
As1 Zhang Zhizhen CHN 1
Legacy Gold Medalist/Grand Slam Champion
92 Stan Wawrinka SUI 1
96 Andy Murray GBR 4
Host Nation (reallocated)
65 Dominik Koepfer GER 3
Universality
98 Sumit Nagal IND 1
* based on current live rankings so some changes in the order are possible with a handful of players playing in the next week
* some questions around players with injuries such as Lehecka, and Cilic
* France will not need the host country spot so it will be reallocated to the next highest ranked player
* Universality spot is a guess based on the highest ranked non-European player from a country without an entry
by skatingfan Women's Singles Projected Olympic Entries
World Ranking
Entry Rank Name Country Entry
1 1 Iga Swiatek POL 1
2 2 Coco Gauff USA 1
3 3 Aryna Sabalenka BLR 1
4 4 Elena Rybakina KAZ 1
5 5 Marketa Vondrousova CZE 1
6 6 Jessica Pegula USA 2
7 8 Maria Sakkari GRE 1
8 9 Ons Jabeur TUN 1
9 10 Danielle Collins USA 3
10 11 Madison Keys USA 4
11 12 Jelena Ostapenko LAT 1
12 13 Daria Kasatkina RUS 1
13 14 Jasmine Paolini ITA 1
14 15 Ludmilla Samsonova RUS 2
15 16 Ekaterina Alexandrova RUS 3
16 18 Marta Kostyuk UKR 1
17 19 Victoria Azarenka BLR 2
18 20 Beatriz Haddad Maia BRA 1
19 21 Elina Svitolina UKR 2
20 22 Caroline Garcia FRA 1
21 23 Anna Kalinskaya RUS 4
22 24 Barboara Krejcikova CZE 2
23 26 Dayana Yastremska UKR 3
24 27 Linda Noskova CZE 3
25 28 Sorana Cirstea ROU 1
26 29 Katie Boulter GBR 1
27 30 Katerina Siniakova CZE 4
28 31 Leylah Fernandez CAN 1
29 32 Elise Mertens BEL 1
30 38 Yue Yan CHN 2
31 39 Donna Vekic CRO 1
32 40 Xinyu Wang CHN 3
33 41 Yulia Putintseva KAZ 2
34 42 Clara Burel FRA 2
35 43 Elisabetta Cocciaretto ITA 2
36 44 Magda Linette POL 2
37 46 Anhelina Kalinina UKR 4
38 49 Ana Bogdan ROU 2
39 51 Magdalena Frech POL 3
40 52 Xiyu Wang CHN 4
41 55 Sara Sorribes Tormo ESP 1
42 56 Arantxa Rus NED 1
43 61 Tatjana Maria GER 1
44 62 Nadia Podoroska ARG 1
45 63 Cristina Bucsa ESP 2
46 64 Diane Parry FRA 3
47 65 Clara Tauson DEN 1
48 67 Lucia Bronzetti ITA 3
49 68 Viktoriya Tomova BUL 1
50 69 Jacqueline Cristian ROU 3
51 70 Varvara Gracheva FRA 4
52 73 Viktoria Golubic SUI 1
53 SR Angelique Kerber GER 2
54 SR Naomi Osaka JPN 1
55 SR Irina-Camelia Begu ROU 4
56 SR Bianca Andreescu CAN 2
Continental Places
Af1 Maya Sherif EGY 1
Am1 Laura Pigossi BRA 1
Am2 Maria Lourdes Carle ARG 2
As1 Zheng Qinwen CHN 1
Legacy Gold Medalist/Grand Slam Champion
115 Caroline Wozniacki DEN 2
205 Emma Raducanu GBR 2
Host Nation (reallocated)
74 Tamara Korpatsch GER 3
Universality
99 Renata Zarazua MEX 1
* based on current live rankings so some changes in the order are possible with a handful of players playing in the next week
* France will not need the host country spot so it will be reallocated to the next highest ranked player
* Universality spot is a guess based on the highest ranked non-European player from a country without an entry
by skatingfan HASSAN, KOVINIC GRANTED UNIVERSALITY PLACES FOR TENNIS AT PARIS 2024
The ITF has announced that Lebanon’s Benjamin Hassan and Danka Kovinic, of Montenegro, are the first two players confirmed to take part in the Paris 2024 Olympic Tennis Event after both were awarded Universality places into the men’s and women’s singles events.
Universality Places are awarded to nations who are under represented in the Olympic Games and allocated to National Olympic Committees by the Olympic Games Tripartite Commission in consultation with the ITF.
Hassan will be the first player from Lebanon to take part in an Olympic Tennis Event, while Kovinic, who became the first Montenegrin to take part in tennis at the Games at Rio 2016, is set for her second Olympic appearance.
"It’s always a great pleasure representing my country, especially at the Olympics,” said Kovinic. “This means even more for me, knowing I had to withdraw from Tokyo 2020 at the last minute due to an injury. I genuinely hope the Games in Paris will be another great experience for myself and that I could embrace all the atmosphere Olympics can bring to the athletes."
"Growing up, playing tennis has always been my passion and I had a dream of reaching stellar positions and representing my country in international tournaments," said Hassan. "Taking part in the Paris 2024 Olympic Tennis Event is an important milestone in realising my dreams.”
“This means even more for me, knowing I had to withdraw from Tokyo 2020 at the last minute due to an injury"
News of their participation at the Games on 27 July – 4 August comes on the day of the ranking cut-off for the Olympic Tennis Event, with the direct acceptances into each of the men’s and women’s singles and doubles events at Paris 2024 set to be determined by today’s ATP and WTA rankings.
With the entry process due to be completed by the end of June, the full entry list for Paris 2024 will be announced by the ITF on 4 July, though some nations will be able to confirm their teams in advance of that date.
As well as the 56 direct acceptances and universality place, there are also six final qualification places into each of the men’s and women’s singles events that can be utilised as a result of players performances at Continental Games, as well as two places for former Grand Slam or Olympic champions with the highest number of titles.
There is also a host country place which in this case will not be required given the strength of France’s team – thus increasing the ranking cut for direct acceptance.
Doubles
The doubles Top 10, per the rankings of today (10 June), will receive direct entry into the doubles event if nominated by their country. Those players need to be able to team up with a player from their nation ranked in the Top 300 in either singles or doubles. The remaining places into the doubles draw are allocated by combined ranking, and then by singles priority.
Bear in mind, a country can only nominate a maximum of six players for each of the men’s and women’s events across singles and doubles.
Based on today’s rankings, the following players will be able to pick their partner for Paris 2024, if nominated by their country:
Men’s doubles Top 10: Matthew Ebden (AUS), Marcel Granollers (ESP), Horacio Zeballos (ARG), Rohan Bopanna (IND), Joe Salisbury (GBR), Rajeev Ram (USA), Marcelo Arevalo (ESA) (*won't compete at Paris 2024 as there is no other player from El Salvador ranked inside the world's Top 300), Wesley Koolhof (NED), Mate Pavic (CRO), Andrea Vavassori (ITA).
Women’s doubles Top 10:
Elise Mertens (BEL) (*Has elected not to play at Paris 2024), Su-Wei Hsieh (TPE), Erin Routliffe (NZL), Storm Hunter (AUS)* (injured), Katerina Siniakova (CZE), Laura Siegemund (GER), Gabriela Dabrowski (CAN), Vera Zvonareva, Nicole Melichar-Martinez (USA), Ellen Perez (AUS)
The full entry list for the Olympic Tennis Event will be published on the ITF website here on 4 July
by JTContinental What happened, did Stefanie Voegele and Veronica Cepede Royg retire finally?
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JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:37 pm
What happened, did Stefanie Voegele and Veronica Cepede Royg retire finally?
Yes
by skatingfan Caroline Wozniacki, and Naomi Osaka have been given the Legacy Gold Medalist/Grand Slam Champion entries to the Woman's singles draw.
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by skatingfan I was hoping that Kasatkina would go, but I guess the Russians weren't going to summit the name of the most high profile queer athlete to compete in Paris.
by skatingfanWorld No.3 Sabalenka announces she will not play in Paris Olympics
2024 Olympics • 4 hrs ago
BERLIN -- World No.3 Aryna Sabalenka will not play the upcoming Paris Olympics. The reigning Australian Open champion told reporters at the ecotrans Ladies Open that she has made the decision in order to take care of herself and prepare for the hard-court summer.
"Especially with all the struggles I've been struggling with the last months, I feel I have to take care of my health," Sabalenka said at media day on Monday. "It's too much for the scheduling and I made the decision to take care of my health."
For the first time since Barcelona in 1992, the Olympic tennis event will be held on clay. This will require players to transition from grass at Wimbledon to the clay at Roland Garros for the Olympics and back to the North American hard courts. The hard-court summer features back-to-back WTA 1000 events in Toronto and Cincinnati, followed by the final Grand Slam of the year at the US Open, where Sabalenka was a finalist last year.
"I prefer to have a little rest to make sure physically and health-wise I'm ready for the hard courts," Sabalenka said, "and I'll have a good preparation before going to the hard court season. I feel that this is safer and better for my body."
Sabalenka is the No.2 seed this week in Berlin. She is playing her first tournament since Roland Garros, where she struggled with a stomach illness during her quarterfinal loss to Mirra Andreeva.
"It was the worst experience I had in my life on court," Sabalenka said. "I've played while being ill, I've played with injuries, but when you have a stomach bug and you don't have any energy to play and you're in the quarterfinal of a Grand Slam, that was really terrible experience. But it is how it is.
"I think my body was just asking for some rest. I managed to find a couple of days to chill and recover after the tough months."
Sabalenka has already begun her grass-court preparation with a week training on the grass courts at Aorangi Park at Wimbledon. The initial adjustment was severe, but Sabalenka is confident she can quickly find her grass-court game. She has yet to win a title on the turf, but she is already a two-time semifinalist at Wimbledon.
"We just don't play enough time on grass so I don't have enough time to win a title," Sabalenka said. "It's not like I feel bad, I've made some good results on the grass and I feel really good. I think grass actually suits my game really well.
"So it's not about the surface, it's about the month of tournaments, the amount of opportunities that I have on a grass court."
Sabalenka will open her Berlin campaign against No.14 Daria Kasatkina in the second round. Kasatkina advanced with a 4-6, 7-6(6), 6-3 win over Marta Kostyuk on Monday.
by skatingfanRaducanu rejects Olympic wildcard but Murray in squad
16 June 2024
Emma Raducanu has turned down the chance to play for Great Britain at this summer's Olympics - but two-time singles gold medallist Andy Murray is set to compete in Paris.
Raducanu, 21, is ranked too low to qualify as she continues to come back from surgery on her wrists and ankle last year.
The 2021 US Open champion was offered one of two places by the International Tennis Federation (ITF) that are reserved for former Grand Slam champions.
Raducanu missed the French Open - played on the same clay courts of Roland Garros that will stage the Olympic tennis - to ensure she is fit for the British grass-court season.
The Olympics is sandwiched between the grass courts of Wimbledon and the hard courts of the US Open.
Given her injury issues, Raducanu said she thought it was "not necessary" to put her body through switching surfaces.
"I'm very single minded and I do things my own way and in my own time whenever I want," said Raducanu, who lost to Katie Boulter in the Nottingham Open semi-finals.
"So not in a diva way, [I'm] just prioritising my body and my health because I know if I'm fit, I know if I'm giving my 100%, I know great things are happening and coming.
"I just don't think there's any need to put additional stress on my body or any risk, especially with my history."
Iain Bates, the head of GB's Olympic tennis team, said he was "very comfortable" with Raducanu's decision.
"Everyone's aware of her history and the double wrist surgery from last year," he added. "That [change of surface] places a greater stress on her."
Great Britain's nominations were announced at Queen's Club on Sunday.
The ITF will announce the full entry list for Paris 2024 on 4 July.
Who is going to play for Team GB?
Murray, who won gold in the men's singles at London 2012 and Rio 2016, has been given an ITF place for what could be the final tournament of the 37-year-old's career.
The former world number one said earlier this year he did not expect to "play much past this summer".
Murray and Dan Evans have also been nominated for the men's doubles, with the Scot recently indicating he would only play in Paris if he could play in the team event.
"There is more chance of me winning a medal in the doubles rather than the singles," said Murray.
"I'm not 100% sure. It depends a little bit physically how I'm doing and a bit how the next few weeks ago as well.
"My plan just now is to play but it's not straightforward."
Cameron Norrie, Jack Draper and Dan Evans are set to join Murray in the men's singles.
Katie Boulter is the only British woman to have qualified by ranking for the Games.
Joe Salisbury and Neal Skupski will play in the men's doubles by virtue of their world ranking.
Boulter and Heather Watson have been nominated for the women's doubles, as have Harriet Dart and Maia Lumsden.
The Olympic tennis tournament will run from 27 July to 4 August at Roland Garros.
Players will compete across five medal events: women's singles, men's singles, women's doubles, men's doubles and mixed doubles.
'A clear cut decision'
Analysis by BBC tennis correspondent, Russell Fuller
Emma Raducanu can sometimes be very direct. She made no attempt to paint this as an agonising decision - because the decision was very clear cut in her mind.
It has been apparent for a while that her ranking would not be high enough for direct entry, and with uncertainty over whether she would be offered an ITF place, a plan for the summer was drawn up.
Raducanu is clearly wary of regularly changing surface having had so many issues with her body since winning the US Open.
But she will also see the North American hard court season as a time when her comeback could really gather momentum. Those who do play the Olympics will have a maximum of three weeks between the end of the Games and the start of the final Grand Slam of the year.
Some will feel a player should always represent their country if the opportunity arises.
And there is of course a risk in saying no, as even at just 21 years of age there is no guarantee the chance will come around again.
by ponchi101 This should make it clear of how important an Olympic tennis medal is.
by Suliso Kind of, but in the case of Jabeur also chances of winning one on clay were miniscule. Had it been on grass she would have played.
by ashkor87 Most players don't think much of the Olympics...
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Madison Keys, Ben Shelton, Sebastian Korda and Frances Tiafoe *all* opted NOT to play the Olympics in Paris despite being US top 4 players.
Giron, Eubanks, Navarro in.
by ponchi101 It's going to end up with a field similar to a 250. At best.
by ti-amie2024 Olympics Tennis Men's Singles Entry List:
Country Players
Argentina Sebastian Baez, Francisco Cerundolo, Mariano Navone, Tomas Martin Etcheverry
Australia Alex de Minaur, Alexei Popyrin, Rinky Hijikata
Austria Sebastian Ofner
Belgium Zizou Bergs
Brazil Thiago Seyboth Wild, Thiago Monteiro (ITF)
Canada Felix Auger-Aliassime, Milos Raonic
China, P.R. Zhang Zhizhen (ITF)
Chile Nicolas Jarry, Alejandro Tabilo, Tomas Barrios Vera (ITF)
Czechia Tomas Machac, Jakub Mensik
Denmark Holger Rune
France Ugo Humbert, Gael Monfils, Arthur Fils, Corentin Moutet
Germany Alexander Zverev, Jan-Lennard Struff, Dominik Koepfer
Great Britain Cameron Norrie, Jack Draper, Daniel Evans, Andy Murray (ITF)
Greece Stefanos Tsitsipas
Hungary Fabian Marozsan, Marton Fucsovics
Individual Neutral Athletes (AIN) Daniil Medvedev, Roman Safiullin, Pavel Kotov
India Sumit Nagal
Italy Jannik Sinner, Lorenzo Musetti, Matteo Arnaldi, Luciano Darderi
Japan Kei Nishikori, Taro Daniel
Kazakhstan Alexander Bublik, Alexander Shevchenko
Korea, Rep. Kwon Soonwoo
Lebanon Benjamin Hassan (UP)
Netherlands Tallon Griekspoor
Norway Casper Ruud
Poland Hubert Hurkacz
Portugal Nuno Borges
Serbia Novak Djokovic, Dusan Lajovic
Spain Carlos Alcaraz, Rafael Nadal, Pablo Carreno Busta, Alejandro Davidovich Fokina
Switzerland Stan Wawrinka (ITF)
Tunisia Moez Echargui (ITF)
USA Taylor Fritz, Tommy Paul, Christopher Eubanks, Marcos Giron
by ti-amie2024 Olympics Tennis Women's Singles Entry List:
Country Players
Argentina Nadia Podoroska, Maria Lourdes Carle (ITF)
Australia Ajla Tomljanovic
Austria Julia Grabher
Brazil Beatriz Haddad Maia, Laura Pigossi (ITF)
Bulgaria Viktoriya Tomova
Canada Leylah Fernandez, Bianca Andreescu
China, P.R. Zheng Qinwen (ITF), Yuan Yue, Wang Xinyu, Wang Xiyu
Colombia Camila Osorio
Croatia Donna Vekic, Petra Martic
Czechia Marketa Vondrousova, Karolina Muchova, Barbora Krejcikova, Linda Noskova
Denmark Clara Tauson, Caroline Wozniacki (ITF)
Egypt Mayar Sherif (ITF)
France Caroline Garcia, Clara Burel, Diane Parry, Varvara Gracheva
Germany Angelique Kerber, Tatjana Maria, Tamara Korpatsch, Laura Siegemund
Great Britain Katie Boulter
Greece Maria Sakkari
Individual Neutral Athletes (AIN) Ekaterina Alexandrova, Mirra Andreeva, Diana Shnaider
Italy Jasmine Paolini, Elisabetta Cocciaretto, Lucia Bronzetti
Japan Naomi Osaka, Moyuka Uchijima
Kazakhstan Elena Rybakina, Yulia Putintseva
Latvia Jelena Ostapenko
Montenegro Danka Kovinic (UP)
Netherlands Arantxa Rus
Poland Iga Swiatek, Magda Linette, Magdalena Frech
Romania Ana Bogdan, Irina-Camelia Begu, Jaqueline Cristian
Slovakia Anna Karolina Schmiedlova
Spain Sara Sorribes Tormo, Cristina Bucsa
Switzerland Viktorija Golubic
Ukraine Marta Kostyuk, Elina Svitolina, Dayana Yastremska, Anhelina Kalinina
USA Coco Gauff, Jessica Pegula, Danielle Collins, Emma Navarro
by ti-amie2024 Olympics Tennis Men's Doubles Entry List:
Country Players
Argentina Maximo Gonzalez / Andres Molteni, Francisco Cerundolo / Tomas Martin Etcheverry
Australia Matthew Ebden / John Peers, Alex de Minaur / Alexei Popyrin
Belgium Joran Vliegen / Sander Gille
Brazil Thiago Seyboth Wild / Thiago Monteiro
Canada Felix Auger-Aliassime / Milos Raonic
Chile Nicolas Jarry / Alejandro Tabilo
Croatia Mate Pavic / Nikola Mektic
Czechia Adam Pavlasek / Tomas Machac
France Edouard Roger-Vasselin / Fabien Reboul, Ugo Humbert / Arthur Fils
Germany Kevin Krawietz / Tim Puetz, Jan-Lennard Struff / Dominik Koepfer
Great Britain Joe Salisbury / Neal Skupski, Daniel Evans / Andy Murray
Greece Stefanos Tsitsipas / Petros Tsitsipas
Hungary Fabian Marozsan / Marton Fucsovics
Individual Neutral Athletes (AIN) Daniil Medvedev / Roman Safiullin
India Rohan Bopanna / N. Sriram Balaji
Italy Andrea Vavassori / Simon Bolelli, Jannik Sinner / Lorenzo Musetti
Kazakhstan Alexander Bublik / Aleksandr Nedovyesov
Lebanon Benjamin Hassan / Hady Habib
Netherlands Tallon Griekspoor / Wesley Koolhof, Jean-Julien Rojer / Robin Haase
Poland Hubert Hurkacz / Jan Zielinski
Portugal Nuno Borges / Francisco Cabral
Spain Marcel Granollers / Pablo Carreno Busta, Carlos Alcaraz / Rafael Nadal
USA Rajeev Ram / Austin Krajicek, Taylor Fritz / Tommy Paul
by ti-amie2024 Olympics Tennis Women's Doubles Entry List:
Country Players
Argentina Nadia Podoroska / Maria Lourdes Carle
Australia Ellen Perez / Daria Saville, Ajla Tomljanovic / Olivia Gadecki
Brazil Luisa Stefani / Beatriz Haddad Maia
Canada Gabriela Dabrowski / Leylah Fernandez
China, P.R. Zhang Shuai / Yuan Yue, Wang Xinyu / Zheng Saisai
Chinese Taipei Hsieh Su-Wei / Tsao Chia Yi, Chan Hao-Ching / Latisha Chan
Czechia Marketa Vondrousova / Karolina Muchova, Katerina Siniakova / Barbora Krejcikova
France Caroline Garcia / Diane Parry, Clara Burel / Varvara Gracheva
Germany Laura Siegemund / Angelique Kerber, Tatjana Maria / Tamara Korpatsch
Greece Maria Sakkari / Despoina Papamichail
Great Britain Katie Boulter / Heather Watson
Individual Neutral Athletes (AIN) Mirra Andreeva / Diana Shnaider, Ekaterina Alexandrova / Elena Vesnina (AIN TBC)
Italy Jasmine Paolini / Sara Errani, Elisabetta Cocciaretto / Lucia Bronzetti
Japan Ena Shibahara / Shuko Aoyama
Netherlands Demi Schuurs / Arantxa Rus
New Zealand Erin Routliffe / Lulu Sun
Poland Magda Linette / Alicja Rosolska
Romania Irina-Camelia Begu / Monica Niculescu, Ana Bogdan / Jaqueline Cristian
Spain Sara Sorribes Tormo / Cristina Bucsa
Ukraine Marta Kostyuk / Dayana Yastremska, Lyudmyla Kichenok / Nadiia Kichenok
USA Coco Gauff / Jessica Pegula, Desirae Krawczyk / Danielle Collins
by ti-amie The International Tennis Federation (ITF) has noted that the 16-team mixed doubles entry lists will be finalized on Wednesday, July 24th.
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@dsenkowski07 Russian tennis players Veronika Kudermetova and Aslan Karatsev were not allowed to take part in the Olympic Games in Paris as neutral athletes! They are the only tennis players who failed the "neutrality test" (no connections with war, army, no symbols, statements) 1/2
Until last year, Kudermetowa played in a uniform with the logo of Tatneft - a company on the EU sanctions list. Today she is 38th in the world, but she was 9th. Karatsev is the silver medalist of the Tokyo Olympics in mixed 2/2
The names of Kuderemetova and Karatsev are not on the Olympics invite list or on the ITF list. Russian media write about their exclusion.
The scandal is that Khachanov was allowed to take part in the Olympics after post Saint George Cross on Instagram (included on Olympic’s list of prohibited symbols (next to Z sign). Potapova did the same - a provocation with a Spartak Moscow T-shirt a year ago and she was allowed
However, Khachanov and Potapova will not play in Paris, but only because they refused! Just like Kasatkina and Rublev, both anti-war. Andreeva (although Ukrainian Yastremska claims that she liked pro-Putin posts on IG) and Shnaider will perform at the Olympics
We already know the lists of tennis players for the Olympics. The decision regarding the Russians was made by the International Tennis Federation and the Olympic. The singles: Danil Medvedev, Roman Safiullin, Pavel Kotov, Ekaterina Alexandrova, Mirra Andrejewa and Diana Shnaider
Russian Tennis Association submitted names and then the IOC and ITF accepted or not. And so Karatsev and Kudermetova were eliminated. Although the head of the Russian Association believes that it is the fault of the French Ministry of Foreign Affairs
by ponchi101 I always boycott the Olympics, but this year, will be more so. Allowing Russia to compete is sickening.
(yeah, neutral athletes my ***)
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by skatingfan Rybakina general lack of expression pays off as she's the one who looks innocent.
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skatingfan wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:29 pm
Rybakina general lack of expression pays off as she's the one who looks innocent.
The more I look at her in this picture I think she looks like someone who would be described as a "baby faced killer"
by ti-amie You can find all of the pictures here under "Entries" and using the drop down menu to choose men or women.
by JTContinental Nadal’s hair has never looked so sparse and lifeless, and that’s saying something
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by flowerchild39 Sinner out of the Olympics with tonsillitis. What bad luck.
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I don't like this look at all.
by ponchi101 I do. Very American.
I would have gone for an elegant jeans and white T shirt combo, plus the jacket. Which is almost the same.
Anyway, NOBODY is beating Mongolia in the best uniform department.
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ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:28 pm
I do. Very American.
I would have gone for an elegant jeans and white T shirt combo, plus the jacket. Which is almost the same.
Anyway, NOBODY is beating Mongolia in the best uniform department.
No one.
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How Mongolia’s Viral Olympics 2024 Uniforms Came Together in Just 12 Weeks
GQ spoke to the design minds behind the stunning sports masterpiece—and why it almost never came into being.
By Daisy Jones
July 18, 2024
Image may contain Du Juan People Person Fashion Adult Blouse Clothing Accessories Bag Handbag and Long Sleeve
Michel Amazonka
Who's the menswear winner of summer 2024? Brad Pitt in baby yellow Burberry? A$AP Rocky in a Bottega Veneta shirt and tie? Pierce Brosnan in that Ralph Lauren suit at Wimbledon? Or is it, in fact, the models wearing the new uniform for Team Mongolia for the 2024 Olympics based in Paris, which were revealed earlier this month? Sharp, detailed and low-key wavy, with embroidered collars and boxy vests, the uniforms—which are to be worn by athletes during this summer's opening ceremony—have managed to win over the toughest of online crowds: Fashion Twitter.
The uniformed were designed by fashion label Michel & Amazonka, led by two sisters, who are no stranger to big set pieces. The pair have also designed uniforms for Mongolian Airlines (which similarly toe the line between flashy and neutral) as well as the official attire for Team Mongolia at both the 2020 and 2022 Olympics. But this is the first time they've put together something that's generated such a universal response. “We are still in a state of shock,” says director and general manager Batbaatar Munkhbaya, speaking over Zoom from the Michel & Amazonka workshop based in Ulaanbaatar. Beside her is Amazonka Chougala, one of the designer duo, for whom she translates. Behind both of them is a rail stacked full of fresh uniforms, the golden threadwork glinting in the sun.
Here's what Munkhbaya had to say on the uniform's viral impact, how they blended modernism with Mongolian tradition, and how long each uniform took to make.
GQ: How was it decided that you’d be designing this year’s uniform for Mongolia?
Batbaatar Munkhbaya: Initially, we were not selected to design. But suddenly, in February, the Mongolian National Olympic Committee said that the previous company that they’d selected had cancelled the deal. They contacted us because we’d made [uniforms] for the previous two Olympics—in Tokyo and Beijing. We only had three months to complete this uniform.
Wow, that’s a quick turnaround. Can you tell me about where the initial inspiration came from?
So, our inspiration is from the Naadam [Mongolian Naadam Festival]—Naadam is like our Olympics. It’s a big festival that happens in Mongolia in July where people dress up for the opening ceremony. You can see similar designs everywhere in Mongolia. It’s very colourful, and the one that we made for the Olympics is more toned down. It’s a little bit fancier with the embroidery. But it’s traditional clothing.
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Why did you decide to go for a more neutral color palette?
Well, we like going to Paris. It’s the capital of fashion. And we considered the hotter weather there, so we chose light colors, like white and gray—those are our favorite colors. Darker colors wouldn’t suit the hot summer of Paris. One of the inspirations was the Paris 2024 Olympics torch—it’s very neutral, with gold and silver. So that also gave us inspiration.
The gold is so beautiful. And the embroidery includes fish, mountains and images of nature. Can you tell me a bit about the design on the vests?
Can I bring the vest over? [carries a vest over and shows it to the camera]. I don’t know if you can see the embroidery but this [motions to the top half of the vest] is called the ‘Nine White Banner’. When Naadam begins, this banner comes to the stadium. So this is the symbol of beginning. And then we have the logo of the Olympics. And we have these mountains [gestures to the lower half]. Mountaineers climb up to Everest and become the best, so these mountains represent hard work and perseverance. It's embroidered in golden thread because we wish that our [uniform] brings gold medals.
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I read that the silhouettes were inspired by Mongolian deels [a centuries-old item of traditional clothing]. Can you tell me about that?
The flag bearers—men and women—both of them wear deels, and on top of it they wear vests. Those these clothes are our traditional clothes that wear during our celebrations and competitions.
The uniform includes lots of accessories: pouch bags, sash belts, dangling earrings, pointed buryat hats, and gutal boots. Why was it important to include those accessories?
One of the requirements that the Mongolian National Olympic Committee gave us was that we should consider the whole look. It should include hats, comfortable shoes, earrings and accessories that would compliment the look. And bags for ladies. Because ladies like to carry their stuff; cellphones, anything. So the purse is an inseparable part of the outfit.
How long did each uniform take to complete and what did the process entail? They're each so detailed.
So, the first stage is the preparation, which is when we source our fabric and gather the accessorial elements, and also prepare the embroidery. Once they are all collected, we go to the sewing stage, which took about 20 hours per uniform. In total, we made 120 sets of uniforms, 70 for men and 50 for women. That includes both regular Olympics and Paralympics. We needed to project manage it efficiently for 3 months.
Everyone seems to love these uniforms. They've generated a lot of attention for how stylish and chic they look. What do you make of the reaction?
We are still in a state of shock. It's something that's never happened. Just thinking about how people have reached out to us on Facebook and Instagram and expressed their positive thoughts… that's crazy. The amount of people who are responding to [these uniforms] is phenomenal for us.
by nelslus Rybakina out of the Olympics- for undisclosed reasons.
by Oploskoffie Nadal's singles participation apparently also in doubt: Rafael Nadal may not play singles at the Olympic Games due to physical problems.
According to the Spanish sports website Relevo, the atmosphere in Nadal’s circle “is not exactly optimistic” and plan B is gaining strength: concentrate on the doubles with Carlos Alcaraz and forget about the singles tournament
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nelslus wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:30 pm
Rybakina out of the Olympics- for undisclosed reasons.
She posted on her Instagram an hour ago that it's because of acute bronchitis which she developed at some point after Wimbledon
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Oploskoffie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 7:57 pm
Nadal's singles participation apparently also in doubt: Rafael Nadal may not play singles at the Olympic Games due to physical problems.
According to the Spanish sports website Relevo, the atmosphere in Nadal’s circle “is not exactly optimistic” and plan B is gaining strength: concentrate on the doubles with Carlos Alcaraz and forget about the singles tournament
Moya has apparently stated that Rafa got a thigh injury from- if I am understanding this correctly- a doubles work-out- and some heaviness in the legs. Did not practice today. UGGHHHHHH.
by ti-amieOlympic Tennis Event, Paris, France The Olympics
Date: 7/27/2024 Original Cut Off: 81 Ranking Date: 6/10/2024
Draw Size: 64 Direct Acceptances: 58 ITF Place: 5 Universality Place: 1
Women's Draw
POL Iga Swiatek [1] vs ROU Irina-CameliaBegu
Nadia Podoroska vs FRA Diane Parry
CZE Linda Noskova vs CHN Xiyu Wang
ITA Elisabetta Cocciaretto vs AIN Diana Shnaider [15]
LAT Jelena Ostapenko [10] vs COL Camila Osorio (IP)
BRA Laura Pigossi (IP) vs UKR Dayana Yastremska
EGY Maiar Sherif Ahmed Abdelaziz (ip) vs DEN Caroline Wozniacki (IP)
GER Laura Siegemund vs USA Danielle Collins [8]
FRA Caroline Garcia [17] vs ROU Jaqueline Adina Cristian
JPN Naomi Osaka vs GER Angelique Kerber
CRO Petra Martic vs ESP Cristina Bucsa
CZE Karolina Muchova vs CAN Leylah Fernandez [16]
USA Emma Navarro [11] vs AUT Julia Grabher
POL Magdalena Frech vs BUL Viktoriya Tomova
UKR Anhelina Kalinina vs NED Arantxa Rus
AUS Daria Saville vs CHN Qinwen Zheng (ip) [6]
USA Jessica Pegula [5] vs SUI Viktorija Golubic
JPN Moyuka Uchijima vs UKR Elina Svitolina
CHN Xinyu Wang vs GER Tamara Korpatsch
ESP Sara Sorribes Tormo vs CZE Barbora Krejcikova [9]
BRA Beatriz Haddad Maia [14] vs FRA Varvara Gracheva
SVK Anna Karolina Schmiedlova (ip) vs GBR Katie Boulter
POL Magda Linette vs AIN Mirra Andreeva
ROU Ana Bogdan vs ITA JasminePaolini [4]
GRE Maria Sakkari [7] vs MNE Danka Kovinic (ip)
AIN Ekaterina Alexandrova vs CHN Yue Yuan
FRA Clara Burel vs CZE Katerina Siniakova
KAZ Yulia Putintseva vs UKR Marta Kostyuk [12]
CRO Donna Vekic [13] vs ITA Lucia Bronzetti
CAN Bianca Andreescu vs DEN Clara Tauson
ARG Maria Lourdes Carle (ip) vs GER Tatjana Maria
AUS Ajla Tomljanovic vs USA Coco Gauff [2]
by ti-amieOlympic Tennis Event, Paris, France The Olympics
Date: 7/27/2024 Original Cut Off: 84 Ranking Date: 6/10/2024
Draw Size: 64 Direct Acceptances: 57 ITF Place: 6 Universality Place: 1
Novak Djokovic [1] vs AUS Matthew Ebden
HUN Marton Fucsovics vs ESP Rafael Nadal
CAN Milos Raonic vs GER Dominik Koepfer
ITA Matteo Arnaldi vs FRA Arthur Fils [14]
ARG Sebastian Baez [12] vs BRA Thiago Monteiro (IP)
USA Christopher Eubanks vs LBN Benjamin Hassan (IP)
TUN Moez Echargui (IP) vs GBR Daniel Evans
BEL Zizou Bergs vs GRE Stefanos Tsitsipas [8]
GER Alexander Zverev [3] vs ESP Jaume Munar
CZE Tomas Machac vs CHN Zhizhen Zhang (IP)
SUI Stan Wawrinka (IP) vs AIN Pavel Kotov
AUS Alexei Popyrin vs CHI Nicolas Jarry [16]
ITA Lorenzo Musetti [11] vs FRA Gael Monfils
ARG Mariano Navone vs POR Nuno Borges
GBR Jack Draper vs JPN Kei Nishikori
KAZ Alexander Bublik vs USA Taylor Fritz [7]
NOR Casper Ruud [6] vs JPN Taro Daniel (IP)
ESP Pedro Martinez vs ITA Andrea Vavassori
ARG Francisco Cerundolo vs CHI Marcelo Tomas Barrios Vera
HUN Fabian Marozsan vs FRA Ugo Humbert [10]
CAN Felix Auger-Aliassime [13] vs USA Marcos Giron
SRB Dusan Lajovic vs GER Maximilian Marterer
NED Robin Haase vs AUT Sebastian Ofner
AUS Rinky Hijikata vs AIN Daniil Medvedev [4]
AUS Alex de Minaur [5] vs GER Jan-Lennard Struff
FRA Corentin Moutet vs IND Sumit Nagal
CZE Jakub Mensik vs KAZ Alexander Shevchenko
ITA Luciano Darderi vs USA Tommy Paul [9]
CHI Alejandro Tabilo [15] vs AIN Roman Safiullin
ARG Tomas Martin Etcheverry vs BRA Thiago Seyboth Wild
NED Tallon Griekspoor vs GBR Cameron Norrie
LBN Hady Habib vs ESP Carlos Alcaraz [2]
by ponchi101 Rafa really has to drop it. His body simply can't take it anymore.
Just like Murray's.
Oh, was a that a COPY PASTE from a post from me like, 9 months ago?
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Sat, 27 July, 2024 (Day 1)
Court Philippe Chatrier
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
I. Swiatek (1) Vs I. Begu
Followed By
N. Djokovic (1) Vs M. Ebden
Followed By
M. Gonzalez/A. Molteni (6) Vs C. Alcaraz/R. Nadal
Followed By
N. Osaka Vs A. Kerber
Court Suzanne Lenglen
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
A. Bogdan Vs J. Paolini (4)
Followed By
H. Habib Vs (2) C. Alcaraz
Followed By
C. Garcia Vs J. Cristian
Followed By
R. Hijikata Vs (4) D. Medvedev
Court Simonne Mathieu
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
J. Ostapenko (10) Vs C. Osorio
Followed By
B. Haddad Maia (14) Vs V. Gracheva
Followed By
Z. Bergs Vs (8) S. Tsitsipas
Followed By
S. Wawrinka Vs P. Kotov
Court 6
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
J. Draper Vs K. Nishikori
Followed By
T. Griekspoor Vs C. Norrie
Followed By
M. Echargui Vs D. Evans
Followed By
S. Gille/J. Vliegen Vs (8) A. Fils/U. Humbert
Court 7
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
L. Darderi Vs (9) T. Paul
Followed By
L. Siegemund Vs D. Collins (8)
Followed By
Y. Putintseva Vs M. Kostyuk (12)
Followed By
C. Eubanks Vs Player Photo B. Hassan
Court 8
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
E. Navarro (11) Vs J. Grabher
Followed By
L. Pigossi Vs D. Yastremska
Followed By
T. Machac Vs Z. Zhang
Followed By
L. Darderi/L. Musetti Vs N. Jarry/A. Tabilo
Court 9
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
K. Muchova Vs L. Fernandez (16)
Followed By
B. Andreescu Vs C. Tauson
Followed By
R. Haase Vs S. Ofner
Followed By
G. Dabrowski/L. Fernandez (5) Vs C. Burel/V. Gracheva
Court 10
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
D. Saville Vs Q. Zheng (6)
Followed By
M. Navone Vs N. Borges
Followed By
L. Kichenok/N. Kichenok Vs X. Wang/S. Zheng
Court 11
Starts at 12:00 PM
R32
D. Koepfer/J. Struff Vs (7) N. Mektic/M. Pavic
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs P. Carreno Busta/M. Granollers
Followed By
A. Schmiedlova Vs K. Boulter
Followed By
S. Errani/J. Paolini (3) Vs E. Routliffe/L. Sun
Court 12
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
A. Kalinina Vs A. Rus
Followed By
N. Balaji/R. Bopanna Vs F. Reboul/E. Roger-Vasselin
Followed By
E. Alexandrova/E. Vesnina Vs K. Muchova/L. Noskova
Followed By
Y. Yuan/S. Zhang Vs (6) B. Haddad Maia/L. Stefani
Court 13
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
P. Martic Vs C. Bucsa
Followed By
E. Cocciaretto Vs D. Shnaider (15)
Followed By
H. Chan/L. Chan Vs (2) B. Krejcikova/K. Siniakova
Followed By
M. Carle/N. Podoroska Vs T. Korpatsch/T. Maria
Court 14
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
N. Podoroska Vs D. Parry
Followed By
F. Auger-Aliassime (13) Vs M. Giron
Followed By
A. Bublik Vs (7) T. Fritz
Followed By
C. Gauff/J. Pegula (1) Vs E. Perez/D. Saville
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by ti-amie Naomi lost to Kerber in straight sets 7-5, 6-3.
A nice bit of self deprecating humour by Fritz given the relative doubles success of Gauff.
by ti-amie So far the ATP site is the best source for the full OoP for each day. Right now though there are some errors where results for Saturday are mixed in with the Sunday OoP. That's where you see asterisks below. If I have time I'll check to see if they've fixed that.
Sun, 28 July, 2024 (Day 2)
Court Philippe Chatrier
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
S. Sorribes Tormo Vs B. Krejcikova (9)
Followed By
A. Tomljanovic Vs C. Gauff (2)
Followed By
A. Zverev (3) Vs J. Munar
Court Suzanne Lenglen
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
M. Sakkari (7) Vs D. Kovinic
Followed By
C. Ruud (6) Vs T. Daniel
Followed By
J. Pegula (5) Vs V. Golubic
Followed By
L. Musetti (11) Vs G. Monfils
Followed By
T. Daniel/K. Nishikori Vs D. Evans/A. Murray
Court Simonne Mathieu
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
F. Auger-Aliassime (13) Vs M. Giron
Followed By
L. Siegemund Vs D. Collins (8)
Followed By
Z. Bergs Vs (8) S. Tsitsipas
Followed By
S. Wawrinka Vs P. Kotov
Followed By
M. Sherif Ahmed Abdelaziz Vs C. Wozniacki
Court 6
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
E. Alexandrova Vs Y. Yuan
Followed By
J. Ostapenko (10) Vs C. Osorio
Followed By
A. Tabilo (15) Vs R. Safiullin
Followed By
C. Burel Vs K. Siniakova
Followed By
A. Popyrin Vs (16) N. Jarry
Followed By
D. Medvedev/R. Safiullin Vs (2) K. Krawietz/T. Puetz
Court 7
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
C. Moutet Vs S. Nagal
Followed By
A. de Minaur (5) Vs J. Struff
Followed By
L. Darderi Vs (9) T. Paul
Followed By
B. Haddad Maia (14) Vs V. Gracheva
Followed By
M. Raonic Vs D. Koepfer
Followed By
N. Balaji/R. Bopanna Vs G. Monfils/E. Roger-Vasselin
Court 8
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
E. Cocciaretto Vs D. Shnaider (15)
Followed By
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Followed By
L. Sun Vs M. Kostyuk (12)
Followed By
T. Machac Vs Z. Zhang
Followed By
J. Mensik Vs A. Shevchenko
Followed By
H. Habib/B. Hassan Vs M. Ebden/J. Peers
Court 9
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
T. Etcheverry Vs T. Seyboth Wild
Followed By
P. Martinez Vs A. Vavassori
Followed By
P. Martic Vs C. Bucsa
Followed By
D. Lajovic Vs M. Marterer
Followed By
S. Bolelli/A. Vavassori (1) Vs P. Carreno Busta/M. Granollers
Followed By
S. Errani/J. Paolini (3) Vs E. Routliffe/L. Sun
Court 10
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
M. Carle Vs T. Maria
Followed By
M. Echargui Vs D. Evans
Followed By
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Followed By
A. Kalinina Vs A. Rus
Followed By
E. Navarro (11) Vs J. Grabher
Followed By
A. Rus/D. Schuurs Vs C. Garcia/D. Parry
Court 11
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
B. Andreescu Vs C. Tauson
Followed By
C. Eubanks Vs Player Photo B. Hassan
Followed By
A. Schmiedlova Vs K. Boulter
Followed By
S. Baez (12) Vs T. Monteiro
Followed By
L. Pigossi Vs D. Yastremska
Followed By
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Court 12
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
L. Noskova Vs X. Wang
Followed By
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Followed By
N. Podoroska Vs D. Parry
Followed By
F. Cerundolo Vs M. Barrios Vera
Followed By
S. Aoyama/E. Shibahara Vs A. Bogdan/J. Cristian
Followed By
I. Begu/M. Niculescu Vs S. Hsieh/C. Tsao
Court 13
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
X. Wang Vs T. Korpatsch
Followed By
M. Uchijima Vs E. Svitolina
Followed By
M. Navone Vs N. Borges
Followed By
M. Linette Vs M. Andreeva
Followed By
M. Frech Vs V. Tomova
Followed By
G. Dabrowski/L. Fernandez (5) Vs C. Burel/V. Gracheva
Court 14
Starts at 12:00 PM
R64
D. Vekic (13) Vs L. Bronzetti
Followed By
S. Errani Vs Q. Zheng (6)
Followed By
F. Marozsan Vs (10) U. Humbert
Followed By
K. Muchova Vs L. Fernandez (16)
Followed By
M. Arnaldi Vs (14) A. Fils
Followed By
P. Tsitsipas/S. Tsitsipas Vs N. Borges/F. Cabral
by ti-amie Now I understand the issues with the men's schedule for tomorrow.
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by skatingfan The second point of this highlight package shows Alcaraz making a shot just above the barrier, but it doesn't include the isolation camera on Alcaraz where you can really see the way he had to shape his shot to hit the ball before it went out of play.
by skatingfan I feel like the first big challenge as an Olympic viewer is to figure out the Olympic website to find the information I want on the various competitions. I figured out where they were hiding the complete OOP for the day.
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 3:21 am
Alcaraz -Nadal will need a match or two to get synched ...they were not all that impressive in the first set .of course their opponents were pretty good.
After the French Open I thought the Argentines were in contention for a medal, but they had a terrible draw.
by jazzyg That was sweet.
Wish I could have seen it.
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jazzyg wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 1:40 pm
That was sweet.
Wish I could have seen it.
One of the perks of living in Ukraine is that nobody cares about Internet piracy (it seems insignificant when you hear explosions). Therefore I can watch tennis all I want. I fully intent to find Djokovic-Nadal and watch it in its entirety. I will never get tired of watching the stomping of Rafa )
by skatingfan Rafa was off for most of the first set, and into the 2nd - it was 6-1 4-0 - before he found his game, and Novak got a bit tight, and there a wonderful point that ended in a cross-court forehand winner from Nadal. At 4-4 it seemed like we had a match, but then Novak did what he's done so many times before and raised his level and ended the match.
by ti-amie Svitolina looked like her old self winning a tight match against Pegula 4-6, 6-1, 6-3.
They were sitting together during the Nadal/Djokovic match.
by ponchi101 Daniil Medvedev cannot return Errani's serve.
That finally explains how she reached a slam final.
by ti-amie I'll just leave this here...
by flowerchild39 Donna Vekic just beat Coco 7-6, 6-2. Only following scores. Anyone see what happened?
by Suliso Some players play much better in Olympics and others the same or worse...
by mick1303 There was an out call that was overruled. Coco argued that the overrule call was late and an out call affected her. But she wasn't given a let. Point was given to Vekic and it was a break in the 2nd set.
by skatingfan Also Gauff had a 5-2 lead in the first set, and a 6-4 lead in the first set tiebreak.
I don't understand how the umpire can't correct what they admit was their own mistake. Is it because they called the game for Vekic before acknowledging that Gauff had a play on the incorrectly called ball?
I don't understand how the umpire can't correct what they admit was their own mistake. Is it because they called the game for Vekic before acknowledging that Gauff had a play on the incorrectly called ball?
by jazzyg Interesting that one line in the story reads the audio indicated the call came AFTER Gauff's shot, but that sentence was never referenced again. Pretty important sentence and needed a follow-up.
I did not see the match, but in general I have always felt players tend to incorrectly say late calls interfere with their shots when they don't. Clearly, though, Gauff believed she was right. Ultimately, I doubt it changed the outcome. Even if the call affected her shot, which the story says it apparently didn't, there's no guarantee she would have won the point. Then, after the five-minute delay, she won the first three points on Vekic's serve and had a terrific chance to break.
Still, the umpire saying he was wrong but could not change his call is infuriating. Of course he could change his call. He chose not to.
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by skatingfan Order of Play Day 5 - Wednesday July 31, 2024
by jazzyg Murray and Evans saved two more match points from 9-7 down in the match tiebreak after saving five from 9-4 in the first round.
The possibility of a Murray-Evans versus Nadal-Alcaraz final is still alive, although it's hard to see Murray getting there.
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by ashkor87 Am pleased with Kostyuk's win over Sakkari..her power and all-round game makes her a real contender on clay..meanwhile QZ seems to find reserves of strength in the third set .a useful capability in high-stakes matches...! Now that Coco is gone, who will go for silver? Assuming gold is already assigned to Swiatek?
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jazzyg wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 5:18 pm
Interesting that one line in the story reads the audio indicated the call came AFTER Gauff's shot, but that sentence was never referenced again. Pretty important sentence and needed a follow-up.
I did not see the match, but in general I have always felt players tend to incorrectly say late calls interfere with their shots when they don't. Clearly, though, Gauff believed she was right. Ultimately, I doubt it changed the outcome. Even if the call affected her shot, which the story says it apparently didn't, there's no guarantee she would have won the point. Then, after the five-minute delay, she won the first three points on Vekic's serve and had a terrific chance to break.
Still, the umpire saying he was wrong but could not change his call is infuriating. Of course he could change his call. He chose not to.
I'm shocked SI reported it that way. It was not at all clear that he meant "I know I screwed up here but I'm sticking to my guns." Here's the exchange:
Umpire: That's my judgment. That's how I'm ruling it.
Coco: He called it out before I hit it, so I went up on the ball (motioning that she abbreviated her follow-through).
Umpire: (unintelligible)
Coco: No, no, it didn't go fast. Because it was the shape she hit (gestures high with her hand to indicate the ball's topspin).
Umpire: That's how I see it, that's how she hit it.
Coco: This isn't fair, he called it out before I hit the ball.
Umpire: I'm not saying I"m right, I'm saying that's the way I saw it and the way I'm ruling it.
Coco: But you have to be 100% sure.
Umpire: I am 100% sure--
Coco: But it's not fair--
Umpire: -- and now you're telling me the opposite, and that's why, I know I'm wrong but I cannot change my decision after you hit it.
Coco: But he called it out before I hit the ball.
Umpire: That doesn't matter.
Coco: Yes, it does. It kind of does when the ball isn't that fast. If it's fast, OK, but the ball wasn't that fast. [Weird because Donna hit a heavy return, not a high and loopy one. It had a lot of topspin and bounced pretty high, but it wasn't super slow. Kind of moot, though.] [more about whether the call affected her or not]
Coco: But you have to be sure.
Umpire: I am 100% sure.
Coco: But you're not, you just said "maybe I'm wrong."
Umpire: Well, based on your reaction I might be wrong, but I have to take my decision...
When the supervisor came out, Coco kept insisting the call came BEFORE she hit the ball. Like clearly before. She said "If it had happened at the same time (as my shot), okay, I can see that" and was arguing that it was so clearly before she hit it. That definitely wasn't the case. It was simultaneous at best, maybe a hair afterward. (At least on TV - is it possible it takes a half-second for the mic to pick up the sound and it was sooner in reality?)
I chalk up the umpire's words "I know I'm wrong" to his speaking a second language and trying to be diplomatic with a distraught player and acknowledge that of course he might be wrong because that's the nature of humans making split-second calls from so far away. I don't think he meant "I definitely screwed up, you're right." He explained that later. I also think he might have just made a slip of the tongue. He said a few words right before "I know I'm wrong" that are hard to hear, which could provide more context.
What the umpire might have meant is that he thought the ball didn't affect her, and now she's telling him it did, so he's saying, "Okay, you're the expert on that, I can't read your mind," but he has to go by what he sees anyway, and simply whether the call came before or after her swing. He's wrong about what SHE thought, but that's not a factor for the call.
I believe if the umpire truly thought he was wrong, he would reverse his decision. That wasn't the case here. He thought he made a tight but fair call. They're not going to reverse a call like that unless they know they messed up, and it would be immediate.
It was a tight call. I could see it either way. I've watched in on mute trying to see if Coco appears to hit a normal stroke or does indeed seem to pull off it. It's impossible to tell with the sound on - the call comes too quickly. On mute you can tell she hit off her back foot, not driving the ball, and honestly the shot looks pretty normal to me. But I could also see where someone would think she didn't finish the stroke like she normally would have.
If the umpire could have seen a replay, I bet he'd see the case for replaying it because it's just so hard to tell. But that was his impression in real time, and that's what they go by.
Also: Coco waged an unwinnable argument based on her emotions. Okay, she blew off some steam. She was super frustrated by then in the match. But do that quickly and refocus. You can't win that argument. Looking at the stats and the leads she let slip, I don't think this call - which was fair and also very possible correct - had much bearing on the match.
Everyone forgets about the other player in these situations. It's probable, and was the umpire's call, that Vekic hit a great shot, a heavy return right at Coco's feet, and IMO deserved the point and the break.
I wonder if Gauff is under a lot of strain, perhaps because she is about to defend a ton of points. And I wonder what's going on with BG. She's had a decent year, making two Slam semis and losing to Sabalenka and Iga - not bad losses. Also semi'd Indian Wells and Rome. Only one small title, but #5 in the race.
by ashkor87
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 1:43 am
Am pleased with Kostyuk's win over Sakkari..her power and all-round game makes her a real contender on clay..meanwhile QZ seems to find reserves of strength in the third set .a useful capability in high-stakes matches...! Now that Coco is gone, who will go for silver? Assuming gold is already assigned to Swiatek?
I would guess Kostyuk silver, QZ bronze
by ashkor87 Re Coco, I actually think she has had a good year..in the semis of major after major .just wait for the North American hard court season, she will do well as for hitting off the back foot, that has been her problem on forehand anyway!
I only saw part of the first set, till she was up, so don't really know what happened.
What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...
by meganfernandez
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:18 am
Re Coco, I actually think she has had a good year..in the semis of major after major .just wait for the North American hard court season, she will do well as for hitting off the back foot, that has been her problem on forehand anyway!
I only saw part of the first set, till she was up, so don't really know what happened.
She's 5 in the race, very decent year, but not quite building on 2024. Which I think is fine, so I hope her team is helping her keep it in perspective. I wonder if, during the Vekic match, she was tired from the long year already, the experience of flag-bearer and her first Olympics, and then got frustrated with her play. Maybe she's a little burnt out. Or maybe I'm projecting.
What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...
Evidently she doesn't have a good reputation in the locker room, per Navarro - who is very laid-back. Surprising for her to get riled up, of all people.
by ptmcmahon
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:03 pm
Seen around the grounds:
Timed well of course, but what should you do.. stare at Mick 100% of the time? Maybe they are on their phones telling their friends they are next to Mick Jagger.
by JTContinental As usual, I’m finding the analysis of Coco’s game pretty out there. IMO, she simply got screwed by a call and unraveled, which is uncharacteristic, but has already happened a couple of times this year.
by skatingfan
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:52 pm
As usual, I’m finding the analysis of Coco’s game pretty out there. IMO, she simply got screwed by a call and unraveled, which is uncharacteristic, but has already happened a couple of times this year.
I don't think she actually got screwed on the call, but she was not able to get past it either way. I don't think it helped that she was winning comfortably in the first set, and let it slip away, and then found herself losing the 2nd set.
What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...
Agree, and I like Navarro.
But not everybody has to be friends in the locker room, and I have never seen Zheng misbehave on court. So, what was Navarro's point? That Zheng is intense? As long as she is not screaming on your face, no issues there.
And Zheng is not like that.
Still like them both.
What did Zheng do wrong? Puzzling remarks from Navarro...
Agree, and I like Navarro.
But not everybody has to be friends in the locker room, and I have never seen Zheng misbehave on court. So, what was Navarro's point? That Zheng is intense? As long as she is not screaming on your face, no issues there.
And Zheng is not like that.
Still like them both.
Who cares what is going on in the locker room, unless there is smth illegal (which is not the case here). If Zheng seems distant and unfriendly it could very well be language issue. She may not be comfortable speaking English outside the press-conferences.
by jazzyg I don't buy the narrative that Gauff fell apart after the call. She won the next three points on Vekic's serve. She just got beaten by a player who is playing better than she is right now.
by JTContinental Angelique Kerber has retired again after her loss to Zheng.
ETA: I see this was already posted in another thread
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Then this happened
Iga told Polish press:
by JTContinental The US contingent seems a bit touchy during this Olympics.
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by ashkor87
JTContinental wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:34 pm
The US contingent seems a bit touchy during this Olympics.
Americans are not the most sensitive to cultural differences perhaps. Maybe Collins misinterpreted what Swiatek meant, so also Navarro ..everyone doesn't use words the same way Americans do?
by nelslus Why this needs to be said, but....let me suggest that it is QUITE time to stop making any sweeping generalizations about any group of people- even with a “perhaps” qualifier. NOT snark meant towards JT- he was just talking about these few current very testy American players. JT was not making commentary about Americans in general.
by ashkor87 Wow! qz leading swiatek!!
by ashkor87 First defeat for swiatek at RG in 4 years!!!
by ashkor87 Swiatek had 36 ufes!
by Suliso I suppose a pressure of being an overwhelming favorite turned out to be too much.
by ponchi101
Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 12:38 pm
I suppose a pressure of being an overwhelming favorite turned out to be too much.
She was the overwhelming favorite at RG for the slam and that turned out well (if only Naomi had converted one of those MP's).
We always look at these defeats and start looking at incredible circumstances. We forget the most basic of all rules: NOBODY wins every match every day, on any surface. Martina lost to Conchita on grass, Pete crashed down to Krajicek, Novak lost to Daniil at that USO final, Lendl lost to Cash at the Wimby he should have won.
Sure, this was Iga to lose. And she just simply did.
Having said that:
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by ponchi101 About Iga.
You show who you really are when you lose. Not when you win.
Any context about the non-handshake with the ump? Any controversial calls during the match?
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 01, 2024 8:46 pm
About Iga.
You show who you really are when you lose. Not when you win.
Any context about the non-handshake with the ump? Any controversial calls during the match?
Same question I was wondering about Swiatek and the chair?
by Fastbackss Iga comfortably ahead in the bronze medal match. I thought she might come out today in a bad headspace, but doesn't appear to have derailed her.
by jazzyg She was playing Schmiedlova. Not much of a test.
by jazzyg Djokovic vs. Alcaraz for the gold medal. Bring it on, although it will be shown on an eight-hour delay on U.S. TV.
I have not been able to watch anything since I don't subscribe to Peacock, but I think Djokovic has a real shot if he believes it. He was as awful as Alcaraz was brilliant in the Wimbledon final, flubbing easy volleys he had not missed in years. Alcaraz might be too good at this point, but I'm not convinced yet. If Djokovic plays with true self belief--something neither Federer nor Nadal (outside of clay) had against him over the past 10 years--it will be interesting to see how Alcaraz reacts. Federer could have beaten Djokovic in the 2015 Wimbledon and U.S. Open finals, but he did not appear to believe he could win during those matches. Depending on how Djokovic's knee is holding up, he could feel the same way on Sunday.
by Fastbackss Best of 3 certainly helps here.
The way Carlos played today would not help Novak come Sunday. Felix was playing well and only took two games
by mick1303 It does not matter. Novak already achieved the best result in all his tries. BTW he has the most match wins in the Olympics among the tennis players (he already was at the top of the list even before these games started). Obviously in his age and the with the state of his fitness it is unlikely that he will beat Alcaraz. But he did the best he could.
by skatingfan
jazzyg wrote: ↑Fri Aug 02, 2024 7:13 pm
Djokovic vs. Alcaraz for the gold medal. Bring it on, although it will be shown on an eight-hour delay on U.S. TV.
I have not been able to watch anything since I don't subscribe to Peacock, but I think Djokovic has a real shot if he believes it. He was as awful as Alcaraz was brilliant in the Wimbledon final, flubbing easy volleys he had not missed in years. Alcaraz might be too good at this point, but I'm not convinced yet. If Djokovic plays with true self belief--something neither Federer nor Nadal (outside of clay) had against him over the past 10 years--it will be interesting to see how Alcaraz reacts. Federer could have beaten Djokovic in the 2015 Wimbledon and U.S. Open finals, but he did not appear to believe he could win during those matches. Depending on how Djokovic's knee is holding up, he could feel the same way on Sunday.
If you access to a VPN - Opera browser with free built-in VPN for example - you can be in Canada, and access free coverage of the Olympics on the CBC.
by skatingfan Mixed Doubles
Gold Siniakova/Machac, Czechia
Silver Wang/Zhang, People's Republic of China
Bronze Dabrowski/Auger-Aliassime, Canada
by skatingfan Order of Play - Day 8 - August 3, 2024
by ashkor87 SST and Bucsa just showed that doubles is a different game than singles. Beat a Czech pair who are both much better singles players .
by jazzyg Djokovic and Alcaraz played a 95-minute first set, with Djokovic saving eight break points and Alcaraz five before Djokovic ran off the last four points of the tiebreak.
by ashkor87 Djokovic is the best tie-break player ever, it seems, Federer is #2, Nadal is #10.. statistically speaking..
Tiebreaks are mostly about mental strength,not game- after all, they happen only when both players are equally matched .
by mick1303 Gill Gross thinks that all "Big 3" records will be broken relatively soon. He has some logical things to say about why he thinks this. But at the moment it is hard to believe. Novak really won everything there is to win. And both Federer and Nadal are not far behind him. Nonetheless he is clearly and indisputably the Greatest Of All Times.
by ponchi101 That is a pretty outrageous statement. To begin with, all "Big 3" records really means Novak's records. Sure, Nadal has the record at RG, Roger has it at W, but everything else is Novak's.
And to believe that relatively soon somebody will get to 25 slams (assuming Novak is done winning, and that is a big assumption) or somebody will be #1 for 429 weeks, is a big stretch.
About Novak being the GOAT. The case was close a while back. This is just a reminder. Enjoy this (to his fans).
Although I am no Errani fan be any measure, she is a fine doubles player. I'm glad that the Italians got the gold.
by mick1303 When discussing Steffi/Serena, nobody mentions Diede de Groot and nobody adds extra clarifications that Serena or Steffi is the best female player "with two functioning legs". On the other hand, when discissing Novak... you saw what is happening (every cr*ppy woke commentator is quick to point out that he is the best MALE player).
I don't think it is fair at all. Put any top 200 male player in WTA and we all know what will happen. But put regular WTA player in a wheelchair and make her compete in this league - I'm not so sure...
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by ponchi101
mick1303 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 7:54 am
When discussing Steffi/Serena, nobody mentions Diede de Groot and nobody adds extra clarifications that Serena or Steffi is the best female player "with two functioning legs". On the other hand, when discissing Novak... you saw what is happening (every cr*ppy woke commentator is quick to point out that he is the best MALE player).
I don't think it is fair at all. Put any top 200 male player in WTA and we all know what will happen. But put regular WTA player in a wheelchair and make her compete in this league - I'm not so sure...
It is not because it is Novak. Every time somebody mentions that Andy Roddick is the last US player to win a slam, even when clearly discussing the ATP, somebody has to mention that he is the last MAN to do so, in the ATP circuit. Same for Hewitt.
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by ponchi101 Fair assessment.
He is #1, but he is not currently the best. I would say.
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:15 pm
Fair assessment.
He is #1, but he is not currently the best. I would say.
He and Carlos were neck and neck going into the French, then Carlos and Novak overshadowed him over the summer. Sinner has been a little quiet since early May with injury or illness forcing him out of Rome and the Olympics, and it's easy to forget that he's 42-4 for the season, with those losses coming to Alcaraz (three sets at IW, five at RG), Medvedev (QF Wimbledon), and Tsitsipas (Monte Carlo). Sinner has titles on hard court, clay and grass this season.
He'll be a hot story line in Canada and Cincy. Maybe gearing down for a few weeks helped him refresh.
by ponchi101 Perfect analysis. But Alcaraz right now is a bit better. Let's see how the hard courts help Jannick.
by ashkor87
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:51 pm
Perfect analysis. But Alcaraz right now is a bit better. Let's see how the hard courts help Jannick.
Very close but I would say Sinner is better, especially on the faster courts (are there any? USO maybe)
by ashkor87 Btw did anybody here think RG was pretty fast at the Olympics, faster than at the FO? Weather, time of year ..I certainly thought so
by ponchi101 Didn't see it, so I would not know. But the weather is not that dramatically different and I am pretty sure that the crew at RG know how to water a clay court regardless of the time of year.
Russian tennis players Veronika Kudermetova and Aslan Karatsev were not allowed to take part in the Olympic Games in Paris as neutral athletes! They are the only tennis players who failed the "neutrality test" (no connections with war, army, no symbols, statements) 1/2
Russian tennis players Veronika Kudermetova and Aslan Karatsev were not allowed to take part in the Olympic Games in Paris as neutral athletes! They are the only tennis players who failed the "neutrality test" (no connections with war, army, no symbols, statements) 1/2
Maybe they are on their phones telling their friends they are next to Mick Jagger.
