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Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:28 am
by ti-amie
mmmm8 do you think it's safe to say that if the underbosses are fighting something is up? This is just me spitballing.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:05 am
by ti-amie
Jason Jay Smart
@officejjsmart
WHERE YOU GOING?! YOU SCARED?!

The jet of the Belarus Dictator Lukashenko 🇧🇾 family took off from Belarus and is now in the sky over Turkey 🇹🇷.

Upon entering Russian airspace, the aircraft turned off the transponders and turned them on only over Kalmykia, when exiting Russia 🇷🇺.

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Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:06 am
by ponchi101
If this were a TV comedy show, the script would go:
"Meanwhile, at the US Congress..."
And shots if Lorena Bobbit (aka Lauren Boebert) doing her looney act.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:08 am
by ti-amie

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:26 am
by mmmm8
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:28 am mmmm8 do you think it's safe to say that if the underbosses are fighting something is up? This is just me spitballing.
I've stopped with predictions for Russia on February 24, 2022.

The skepticism is pretty high still that this all could be scripted

What we know as a fact is that the war is not going well for Russia.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 4:19 am
by Suliso
At this stage it doesn't look scripted to me anymore. Just following what Ukrainians are saying on Twitter. They're likely to understand better.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:23 am
by Suliso
Now it's 100% not fake - Prigozhin is moving to Moscow. I still think it's more likely he fails than not, but within a week max either him or Putin will be dead/in exile.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:08 pm
by mmmm8
Yes. Apparently his forces occupied Rostov (without much fighring it seems, only heard reports of one potnetial shooting exchange). Rostov is one of Russia's biggest cities.

There are military acrivities in another region (Voronezh) and looks like Moscow is being fortified.

Fun fact, Prigozhin has no military educaton or real experience before the war in Ukraine (he spent his youth in prison instead).

Putin's reportedly has authorized his death.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 2:15 pm
by Suliso
A bit late for Putin. He could have arranged a window or tea easily enough half a year ago. Now he will need a serious military force to do it and it's unclear whether he has enough fully loyal forces.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 3:18 pm
by ponchi101
Who can offer the oligarchs more? With Putin, they know they can do a lot, but he has hurt them financially with this war.
What can Prigozhin offer them and the army?
These coup's usually hinge on that.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:48 pm
by ti-amie
I trust the information people here post more than the blue check's on that s**tsite of Elmo's.

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:49 pm
by ti-amie

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:53 pm
by ti-amie

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:03 pm
by Suliso
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:48 pm I trust the information people here post more than the blue check's on that s**tsite of Elmo's.
It's nice that you trust us, but unfortunately in this case we don't know anything firsthand. For that sources inside Ukraine or Russia are needed...

Re: World News Random, Random

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:09 pm
by ti-amie
Suliso wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:03 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 6:48 pm I trust the information people here post more than the blue check's on that s**tsite of Elmo's.
It's nice that you trust us, but unfortunately in this case we don't know anything firsthand. For that sources inside Ukraine or Russia are needed...
I say that because I believe that the major news/media outlets in Europe maintain bureaus in major cities there unlike the US media and news outlets that closed their bureaus to cut costs and now find themselves having to sort through the noise of Elmo's blue check rando's and bot farms.

Say what you want about the site formerly known as Twitter but in a situation like this it was an invaluable source of on the ground information. Now that is suppressed by the algorithm in order to promote RW loonies screaming about the CIA attacking poor Vlad who is valiantly fighting back against the forces of darkness. It's really horrible.

Don't forget CNN once had a huge overseas presence too.