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Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:36 am
by ashkor87
Suliso wrote: Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:16 am
ashkor87 wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:30 am Swiatek, Osaka, Rybakina, Andreescu if the courts are slow, Leylah and Raducanu if they are fast. Add BHM to the mix ..nobody outside these is going to win!
I'd be willing to bet some money that none of these will win this year. In fact only Swiatek stands a serious chance.
So who would you bet money on?

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:27 am
by Suliso
Not sure... Halep doesn't look too bad, but in general I'm ready to be surprised. I only say it will be someone ranked within the top 25.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 2:59 pm
by AcesAnnie
I am throwing my support at the USO to these two ladies(Shelby Rogers & Karolina Pliskova).

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:11 pm
by ti-amie
I don't see Halep winning the Open. Her emotional state could collapse at any moment and of all the coaches she's had only Cahill seemed to be able to keep her on an even keel.



Of course now she'll romp...

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:14 pm
by AcesAnnie
Pliskova had a disappointing loss today against Mertens, but still I think she is up for a good run in the USO.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:08 am
by jazzyg
Pliskova is a has-been.

Her Wimbledon result last year was a total outlier, as pretty much every event she has played in the last two years has proven. I didn't think she was good enough in her prime to win a slam, and she sure as heck isn't now.

For someone who is supposedly mentally unstable, Halep has won a ton of matches over the years. Cahill did an excellent job with her, but she has done quite well without him, too. The best she ever played at Roland Garros was in 2014 when she made the final without losing a set and forced Sharapova to play the best match I've ever seen her play on clay to beat her in the final. Cahill wasn't her official coach at Wimbledon in 2019, either, although she called him for advice. To win a slam, Halep always will need a little help from her opponents because she doesn't have the easier finishing power too many of them possess.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:27 am
by ponchi101
If she is a has-been, she is a dangerous one. With that serve, some days she can simply win by it.
So, no, she won't win the USO. But she can take out somebody that could.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:32 am
by AcesAnnie
Like ponchi101 stated, Pliskova has one of the best serves on the women's tour, and if that serve is on she can win matches with it. She may not ultimately take the championship at the USO, but I guarantee you she is someone the players do not want to see in an upcoming match.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:48 am
by ashkor87
AcesAnnie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:32 am Like ponchi101 stated, Pliskova has one of the best serves on the women's tour, and if that serve is on she can win matches with it. She may not ultimately take the championship at the USO, but I guarantee you she is someone the players do not want to see in an upcoming match.
And a lethal forehand too .she is a very good player..her only problem is she is a bit slow, especially on the first step....maybe lacks the 'predator' mindset!

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:05 pm
by ponchi101
Data points. Does Rafa's loss last night affect his outlook? On the one hand, it was a well played 3 setter, after almost a month and more of no activity. The key issue for him was how were the abs feeling.
On the other hand: he lost to Coric, who has never been a great hard court player, and who is also coming back from injury. So, that was not good.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:33 pm
by AcesAnnie
ashkor87 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:48 am
AcesAnnie wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:32 am Like ponchi101 stated, Pliskova has one of the best serves on the women's tour, and if that serve is on she can win matches with it. She may not ultimately take the championship at the USO, but I guarantee you she is someone the players do not want to see in an upcoming match.
And a lethal forehand too .she is a very good player..her only problem is she is a bit slow, especially on the first step....maybe lacks the 'predator' mindset!
That she does. One thing that really lets her down sometimes is her tremendous serve. Way too many double faults, but I guess that comes with the territory of having a big serve.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:58 pm
by meganfernandez
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:05 pm Data points. Does Rafa's loss last night affect his outlook? On the one hand, it was a well played 3 setter, after almost a month and more of no activity. The key issue for him was how were the abs feeling.
On the other hand: he lost to Coric, who has never been a great hard court player, and who is also coming back from injury. So, that was not good.
The L itself, no. Depends on what it revealed about his ab. The double-fault on set point in the first set was troubling. If it's hampering him a bit, a couple tough B5 matches like the Fritz quarter in Wimbledon and he could be out. I like Medvedev's chances better.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:09 pm
by ti-amie
jazzyg wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:08 am Pliskova is a has-been.

Her Wimbledon result last year was a total outlier, as pretty much every event she has played in the last two years has proven. I didn't think she was good enough in her prime to win a slam, and she sure as heck isn't now.

For someone who is supposedly mentally unstable, Halep has won a ton of matches over the years. Cahill did an excellent job with her, but she has done quite well without him, too. The best she ever played at Roland Garros was in 2014 when she made the final without losing a set and forced Sharapova to play the best match I've ever seen her play on clay to beat her in the final. Cahill wasn't her official coach at Wimbledon in 2019, either, although she called him for advice. To win a slam, Halep always will need a little help from her opponents because she doesn't have the easier finishing power too many of them possess.
I agree with that sentiment. She did work on her movement and it improved somewhat but when push comes to shove she is still the Pliskobot. If she'd been able to generate more speed and better movement she might've been a multiple Slam contender because she really wants it.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:11 pm
by ti-amie
meganfernandez wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 4:58 pm
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Aug 18, 2022 2:05 pm Data points. Does Rafa's loss last night affect his outlook? On the one hand, it was a well played 3 setter, after almost a month and more of no activity. The key issue for him was how were the abs feeling.
On the other hand: he lost to Coric, who has never been a great hard court player, and who is also coming back from injury. So, that was not good.
The L itself, no. Depends on what it revealed about his ab. The double-fault on set point in the first set was troubling. If it's hampering him a bit, a couple tough B5 matches like the Fritz quarter in Wimbledon and he could be out. I like Medvedev's chances better.

Re: An early look at the US Open

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 6:19 pm
by ponchi101
Well, Mr. O'Connor, you are coming back from an abs injury. You don't start serving at 100%.