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Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:02 pm
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:09 pm
Interesting that Canada is not participating. I'm glad, as I view this as just another gimmick designed to bring in money.

What on Earth are the criteria for qualifying? I mean, Canada's players are certainly stronger than the players of some of the countries who have 'qualified'.
Perhaps kissing certain people's ass is a significant part of the 'qualification' process, and the Canadians have simply refused to do it...

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:08 pm
by ti-amie
No way ass kissing is part of doing business in tennis.

/s

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 12:54 pm
by ashkor87
Hadn't even noticed..the Davis Cup is on..too much for my head to handle right now

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 7:42 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:02 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:25 pm
by ponchi101
And, of course, not being shown anywhere here.
Hard to be enthusiastic about it this way.

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:52 pm
by martini4me
Deuce wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:02 pm Interesting that Canada is not participating. I'm glad, as I view this as just another gimmick designed to bring in money.

What on Earth are the criteria for qualifying? I mean, Canada's players are certainly stronger than the players of some of the countries who have 'qualified'.
Perhaps kissing certain people's ass is a significant part of the 'qualification' process, and the Canadians have simply refused to do it...
The criteria are that you need to have players sign up for the tournament. None of the top Canadian men had signed up. That seems very odd, as Canada did so well at the ATP Cup (which this is replacing) this year.

What is the problem with "bringing in money"? Do you think the players should still be amateurs, playing for the love of the game? And this tournament is a great replacement for the totally unnecessary ATP Cup, which essentially duplicated the Davis Cup finals two months later, and the former Hopman Cup. An opportunity for men and women to play together as teams should be celebrated, not scorned.

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:56 pm
by ti-amie

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:57 pm
by Deuce
martini4me wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:52 pm
Deuce wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:02 pm Interesting that Canada is not participating. I'm glad, as I view this as just another gimmick designed to bring in money.

What on Earth are the criteria for qualifying? I mean, Canada's players are certainly stronger than the players of some of the countries who have 'qualified'.
Perhaps kissing certain people's ass is a significant part of the 'qualification' process, and the Canadians have simply refused to do it...
The criteria are that you need to have players sign up for the tournament. None of the top Canadian men had signed up. That seems very odd, as Canada did so well at the ATP Cup (which this is replacing) this year.

What is the problem with "bringing in money"? Do you think the players should still be amateurs, playing for the love of the game? And this tournament is a great replacement for the totally unnecessary ATP Cup, which essentially duplicated the Davis Cup finals two months later, and the former Hopman Cup. An opportunity for men and women to play together as teams should be celebrated, not scorned.
No, thanks.
It's just another B.S. gimmick.

The problem with 'bringing in money' is that when that is by far the primary purpose of doing something, it's ridiculously selfish. It brings money in for the administrators of tennis and the players, all of whom have far more than enough money already. It simply adds to the problem of the rich getting richer (which, of course, is directly related to the poor getting poorer).

I maintain that when money is the primary motivating factor for anything, there is a serious problem.

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:03 am
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:02 pm
The powers that be have been screwing with the format and rules of Davis Cup for a while - trying to ruin it completely... and it seems, based on this ^ footage that they've now instituted a rule that players are not permitted to come within 30 feet of the net.
Both players had numerous opportunities to go to the net in that point...
Sigh...

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:20 am
by ti-amie
23 November 2022

DAY TWO RESULTS

Croatia defeated Spain 2-0

Quarter-final – Palacio de Deportes Jose Maria Martin Carpena, Malaga, Spain

Borna Coric (CRO) d. Roberto Bautista Agut (ESP) 6-4 7-6(4)

Marin Cilic (CRO) d. Pablo Carreno Busta (ESP) 5-7 6-3 7-6(5)

Nikola Mektic/Mate Pavic (CRO) v Pablo Carreno Busta/Marcel Granollers (ESP) – not played

DAY THREE SCHEDULE

Quarter-finals – Palacio de Deportes Jose Maria Martin Carpena, Malaga, Spain

1000 CET/0900 GMT – Italy v USA

Not before 1600 CET/1500 GMT – Germany v Canada



The players representing each team will be announced one hour prior to the scheduled start of each tie.

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:18 am
by ashkor87
QF are US vs Italy and Germany vs Canada..Croatia and Australia are through yesterday..
At least Cilic seems to care enough to play...no other major champion did..

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 4:23 am
by ashkor87
Hard to see Germany beating Canada but we saw a strange dynamic at the BJK..those who had underperformed at the YEC seemed depressed and unmotivated..maybe US will win after all..

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:27 am
by ashkor87
martini4me wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:52 pm
Deuce wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:02 pm Interesting that Canada is not participating. I'm glad, as I view this as just another gimmick designed to bring in money.

What on Earth are the criteria for qualifying? I mean, Canada's players are certainly stronger than the players of some of the countries who have 'qualified'.
Perhaps kissing certain people's ass is a significant part of the 'qualification' process, and the Canadians have simply refused to do it...
The criteria are that you need to have players sign up for the tournament. None of the top Canadian men had signed up. That seems very odd, as Canada did so well at the ATP Cup (which this is replacing) this year.

What is the problem with "bringing in money"? Do you think the players should still be amateurs, playing for the love of the game? And this tournament is a great replacement for the totally unnecessary ATP Cup, which essentially duplicated the Davis Cup finals two months later, and the former Hopman Cup. An opportunity for men and women to play together as teams should be celebrated, not scorned.
Huh? Canada is in the Qfs, playing Germany next

Re: Country Cups (Davis Cup, Fed/BJK Cup)

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:26 pm
by ashkor87
US is struggling...Tiafoe beaten by Sonego, Fritz leveled by beating Musetti...US playing Sock and Paul in doubles, now crucial ...hope they are regretting dropping Ram! Can't imagine what the calculation must have been..?