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Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:37 am
by ti-amie
Melania hasn't been seen in public for awhile now. The woman he's been seen with is holding his hand and appearing affectionate is not Melania. Completely different facial structure and body type.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am
by ponchi101
Dreaming: Dc and PR become states. The Dakotas fuse, Colorado swallows Wyoming (why does Wyoming exist?) and you still have an even 50.
Agree with JazzNu. My understanding is that DC has a larger population than Wyoming or N. Dakota. More reasons to dream this.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am
by Togtdyalttai
JazzNU wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:36 am
MJ2004 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:18 am Puerto Rico should be added to make it an even 52.
If that's what they want, then I agree. I know there's some push-pull on statehood, independence, or stay a territory.
They voted for statehood two months ago. It was close, but that's clearly what the majority (of voters at least) want.

https://ballotpedia.org/Puerto_Rico_Sta ... dum_(2020)

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:40 am
by JazzNU
ti-amie wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:31 am Intriguing that it was Pence who ordered the National Guard to be deployed.

Lots of things that were on the regular burner are now going to be fast tracked and probably passed.

That picture of the terrorist sitting at the Speakers desk seems to have upset a lot of folks.

#ETTD
Oh yeah, they are VERY mad about that. I'm mad about all of it like most are, but I've definitely noticed that the Speaker's desk plus the Confederate flag being in the Capitol seem to be upsetting people the most in terms of specific actions.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 am
by Togtdyalttai
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am Dreaming: Dc and PR become states. The Dakotas fuse, Colorado swallows Wyoming (why does Wyoming exist?) and you still have an even 50.
Agree with JazzNu. My understanding is that DC has a larger population than Wyoming or N. Dakota. More reasons to dream this.
Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to make new states out of existing states or fuse existing states together. Wyoming and the Dakotas would never agree.
Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:42 am
by mmmm8
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am Dreaming: Dc and PR become states. The Dakotas fuse, Colorado swallows Wyoming (why does Wyoming exist?) and you still have an even 50.
Agree with JazzNu. My understanding is that DC has a larger population than Wyoming or N. Dakota. More reasons to dream this.
The radius within a short walk from my apartment has a larger population than Wyoming (I'm not even exaggerating) :)

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 am
by ponchi101
PR. They voted for STATEHOOD, meaning a full fledge state within the union. Not the same as independence.

And next time, let me dream for at least 2 minutes, before you splat those thoughts with facts :)
(thanks for the correction)

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:46 am
by ti-amie
Togtdyalttai wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:41 am
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:38 am Dreaming: Dc and PR become states. The Dakotas fuse, Colorado swallows Wyoming (why does Wyoming exist?) and you still have an even 50.
Agree with JazzNu. My understanding is that DC has a larger population than Wyoming or N. Dakota. More reasons to dream this.
Unfortunately, it's quite difficult to make new states or fuse them out of existing states.
Article IV, Section 3, Clause 1:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
Article IV Section 3, Clause 1 makes it pretty impossible for The Dakotas to merge or Wyoming and Colorado to combine.
Population of Wyoming: 571,960 inhabitants
Population of Washington, DC. 5,322,000
Population of Bronx, NY 1,404,330

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:48 am
by JazzNU
Breaking this back out because how very appropriate today. These violent, armed insurgents are hardly protestors, stopped calling them that.


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Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:50 am
by Togtdyalttai
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:44 am PR. They voted for STATEHOOD, meaning a full fledge state within the union. Not the same as independence.

And next time, let me dream for at least 2 minutes, before you splat those thoughts with facts :)
(thanks for the correction)
Bah, that's what I meant to say, but for some reason I wrote independence. :oops:

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:11 am
by mmmm8
Is the GOP waking up now and trying to save face?

McConnell just called them thugs and Pence sounded downright presidential.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:13 am
by ti-amie
mmmm8 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:11 am Is the GOP waking up now and trying to save face?

McConnell just called them thugs and Pence sounded downright presidential.
If I didn't know better I'd say Moscow Mitch is shook.

Pence was, as you said, presidential.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:14 am
by MJ2004
Pence is already running for 2024.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:16 am
by mmmm8
MJ2004 wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:14 am Pence is already running for 2024.
What I was thinking. Banking on enough people being scared by this to turn away from Trumpism.

Re: Politics Random, Random

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 1:17 am
by ti-amie
Steve Schmidt
@SteveSchmidtSES
It appears to me on the basis of video evidence that the US Capitol Police have been infiltrated and compromised. There is a fifth column within their ranks. They have surrendered the US Capitol to insurrectionists without a shot fired. It may be the greatest law enforcement

Failure in American history. The US Capitol Police abs their leadership have disgraced and dishonored themselves. There need to be a full accounting of their cowardice. Incompetence, malfeasance and complicity. #totaldisgrace