Re: Tennis Random, Random
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:23 pm
Some of the Tweets from earlier today regarding the incident.
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Both Shapo and Novak were unintentional. They were accidents. They both deserved their punishments, but Zverev showed much more disregard for the umpire's safety by intentionally swinging close to him more than once. He knew what he was doing. As for Kyrgios, that wasn't physical, so I think it's apples to oranges.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:15 pm He will not be suspended. Let's remember the ATP's record on that.
1. Mac was defaulted from a match at the Aussie open IN 1990 (if I remember well), and a decade of terrorizing umpires. He was not suspended.
2. Kyrgios infamous words to Wawrinka led to a "suspended suspension". That was it. Certainly not as violent in the physical sense of the actions by Zverev, but that was a very low point, especially the comments about Donna.
3. Shapovalov's unfortunate hit of the umpire mean disqualification of the match, nothing more (agree, he truly looked like he did not mean to do that).
4. Novax at the USO '20. No need to dig that corpse up.
They never get suspended. It is not in the ATP's "manual" and they don't have, as the Mexican writer in one tweet above says, "los huevos" for that.
Yeah, I actually don't know why he was so upset in the first place. I haven't read about his complaints or issue with the umpire, if he thought the ump missed calls on big points or what. Hard to understand what led to this. But ultimately irrelevant.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:58 pm Agree, Kyrgios incident was not physical. But my point is that that was the occasion which was the closest to a suspension, and then they suspended the suspension.
I remember we made some fun out of that at TAT1.0. (the suspended suspension, not Kyrgios behavior)
Shapo's and Novax' were clear, indeed.
Another thing that was odd. He (Zverev) went berserk over a doubles match? What was the point?
If they don't suspend him and he does actually physically harm someone, I wonder if the linespeople and/or chair umpire would have a case against the ATP on grounds of unsafe working conditions. Maybe they already have that case now, though I guess it would depend on Mexican law, in this case.ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:15 pm He will not be suspended. Let's remember the ATP's record on that.
1. Mac was defaulted from a match at the Aussie open IN 1990 (if I remember well), and a decade of terrorizing umpires. He was not suspended.
2. Kyrgios infamous words to Wawrinka led to a "suspended suspension". That was it. Certainly not as violent in the physical sense of the actions by Zverev, but that was a very low point, especially the comments about Donna.
3. Shapovalov's unfortunate hit of the umpire mean disqualification of the match, nothing more (agree, he truly looked like he did not mean to do that).
4. Novax at the USO '20. No need to dig that corpse up.
They never get suspended. It is not in the ATP's "manual" and they don't have, as the Mexican writer in one tweet above says, "los huevos" for that.
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 4:15 pm He will not be suspended. Let's remember the ATP's record on that.
1. Mac was defaulted from a match at the Aussie open IN 1990 (if I remember well), and a decade of terrorizing umpires. He was not suspended.
2. Kyrgios infamous words to Wawrinka led to a "suspended suspension". That was it. Certainly not as violent in the physical sense of the actions by Zverev, but that was a very low point, especially the comments about Donna.
3. Shapovalov's unfortunate hit of the umpire mean disqualification of the match, nothing more (agree, he truly looked like he did not mean to do that).
4. Novax at the USO '20. No need to dig that corpse up.
They never get suspended. It is not in the ATP's "manual" and they don't have, as the Mexican writer in one tweet above says, "los huevos" for that.