by ti-amie Tournament: Mutua Madrid Open
Location: Madrid, Spain
Dates: April 26 - May 07 2023
Tier: ATP M1000
Surface: Clay
Prize Money: €7,705,780
Total Financial Commitment: €8,796,536
Entries
Seed* Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Novak Djokovic 1 2
2 Carlos Alcaraz 2 1
3 Stefanos Tsitsipas 3 3
4 Casper Ruud 4 4
5 Daniil Medvedev 5 5
6 Andrey Rublev 6 7
7 Felix Auger-Aliassime 7 6
8 Jannik Sinner 8 11
9 Holger Rune 9 8
10 Taylor Fritz 10 10
11 Frances Tiafoe 11 14
12 Karen Khachanov 12 16
13 Hubert Hurkacz 13 9
14 Cameron Norrie 14 12
15 Rafael Nadal 15 13
16 Alexander Zverev 16 15
17 Pablo Carreno Busta 17 17
18 Tommy Paul 18 19
19 Alex de Minaur 19 18
20 Borna Coric 20 20
21 Lorenzo Musetti 21 21
22 Matteo Berrettini 22 23
23 Marin Cilic 23 22
24 Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 24 25
25 Grigor Dimitrov 25 27
26 Sebastian Korda 26 26
27 Nick Kyrgios 27 24
28 Daniel Evans 28 29
29 Roberto Bautista Agut 29 28
30 Denis Shapovalov 30 30
31 Botic van de Zandschulp 31 32
32 Sebastian Baez 32 33
Francisco Cerundolo 33 31
Miomir Kecmanovic 34 35
Tallon Griekspoor 35 36
Yoshihito Nishioka 36 34
Diego Schwartzman 37 38
Emil Ruusuvuori 38 54
Ben Shelton 39 39
Maxime Cressy 40 37
Bernabe Zapata Miralles 41 41
Jiri Lehecka 42 44
Richard Gasquet 43 40
Brandon Nakashima 44 45
Lorenzo Sonego 45 59
J.J. Wolf 46 50
Adrian Mannarino 47 62
Benjamin Bonzi 48 49
Albert Ramos-Vinolas 50 51
Mikael Ymer 51 53
Mackenzie McDonald 52 55
Alexander Bublik 53 48
Andy Murray 54 52
Yibing Wu 55 64
Jack Draper 56 43
Gregoire Barrere 57 65
Nicolas Jarry 58 57
Tomas Martin Etcheverry 59 73
Marc-Andrea Huesler 60 47
Constant Lestienne 61 60
Laslo Djere 62 58
Nuno Borges 63 68
Corentin Moutet 64 69
Pedro Cachin 65 63
Marcos Giron 67 71
John Isner 68 46
Dusan Lajovic 69 76
Jason Kubler 70 70
Alex Molcan 72 56
Marton Fucsovics 73 74
Arthur Rinderknech 75 72
Federico Coria 76 67
Soonwoo Kwon 77 75
Filip Krajinovic 78 77
Jaume Munar 83 66
David Goffin 85 42
Hugo Dellien 117 73 (PR)
Guido Pella 477 75 (PR)
Kyle Edmund 508 48 (PR)
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Alternates
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Ugo Humbert 79 78
2 Quentin Halys 66 79
3 Ilya Ivashka 74 80
4 Thiago Monteiro 80 81
5 Cristian Garin 84 82
6 Jordan Thompson 89 83
7 Roberto Carballes Baena 49 84
8 Oscar Otte 93 85
9 Christopher O'Connell 82 86
10 Stan Wawrinka 90 87
11 Juan Pablo Varillas 91 88
12 Jeremy Chardy 635 88 (PR)
13 Daniel Elahi Galan 92 89
14 Michael Mmoh 99 90
15 Fabio Fognini 97 91
16 Zhizhen Zhang 95 92
17 Alexei Popyrin 94 93
18 Thanasi Kokkinakis 109 94
19 Marco Cecchinato 81 95
20 Emilio Gomez 121 96
Withdrawals
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
Jenson Brooksby 71 61
by ti-amie ATP Qualifying Entry Lists
Entries
Seed* Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Roberto Carballes Baena 49 82
2 Ilya Ivashka 74 75
3 Thiago Monteiro 80 81
4 Marco Cecchinato 81 96
5 Christopher O'Connell 82 87
6 Cristian Garin 84 74
7 Luca Van Assche 88 91
8 Stan Wawrinka 90 88
9 Juan Pablo Varillas 91 89
10 Daniel Elahi Galan 92 94
11 Oscar Otte 93 90
12 Alexei Popyrin 94 95
13 Zhizhen Zhang 95 93
14 Alexandre Muller 96 126
15 Fabio Fognini 97 97
16 Taro Daniel 98 98
17 Michael Mmoh 99 92
18 Jan-Lennard Struff 100 100
19 Aleksandar Kovacevic 101 101
20 Matteo Arnaldi 102 116
21 Pavel Kotov 103 114
22 Roman Safiullin 104 102
23 Dominic Thiem 106 111
24 Alexander Shevchenko 107 103
Borna Gojo 108 117
Thanasi Kokkinakis 109 105
Yannick Hanfmann 110 134
Yosuke Watanuki 111 107
Radu Albot 112 106
Daniel Altmaier 113 108
Otto Virtanen 114 109
Jurij Rodionov 119 120
Sebastian Ofner 120 122
Arthur Fils 122 118
Juan Manuel Cerundolo 123 119
Giulio Zeppieri 124 121
Aslan Karatsev 126 124
Pedro Martinez 127 125
Hugo Grenier 128 129
Francesco Passaro 130 115
Liam Broady 134 132
Jeremy Chardy 635 88 (PR)
Attila Balazs 742 101 (PR)
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Alternates
Name Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Raul Brancaccio 135 135
2 Tomas Machac 125 138
3 Lukas Klein 138 139
4 Maximilian Marterer 139 142
5 Jozef Kovalik 155 143
6 Timofey Skatov 141 144
7 Chun-Hsin Tseng 184 145
8 Filip Misolic 143 146
9 Joao Sousa 146 147
10 Alejandro Tabilo 161 148
11 Vit Kopriva 169 149
12 Felipe Meligeni Alves 171 150
13 Aleksandar Vukic 144 151
14 Tomas Barrios Vera 145 153 (PR)
15 Elias Ymer 140 157
16 Ryan Peniston 156 159
17 Luca Nardi 159 161
18 Kaichi Uchida 160 162
19 Zsombor Piros 167 169
20 Antoine Bellier 168 170
by ti-amie ATP Doubles Entry Lists
Entries
Seed* Names Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Wesley Koolhof / Neal Skupski 2 2
2 Rajeev Ram / Joe Salisbury 7 7
3 Marcelo Arevalo / Jean-Julien Rojer 12 12
4 Nikola Mektic / Mate Pavic 13 13
5 Ivan Dodig / Austin Krajicek 19 19
6 Lloyd Glasspool / Harri Heliovaara 22 22
7 Santiago Gonzalez / Edouard Roger-Vasselin 34 34
8 Marcel Granollers / Horacio Zeballos 38 38
Rohan Bopanna / Matthew Ebden 38 38
Hugo Nys / Jan Zielinski 41 41
Matwe Middelkoop / Andreas Mies 43 43
Kevin Krawietz / Tim Puetz 44 44
Jamie Murray / Michael Venus 44 44
Juan Sebastian Cabal / Robert Farah 50 50
Maximo Gonzalez / Andres Molteni 62 62
Nathaniel Lammons / Jackson Withrow 66 66
Rafael Matos / David Vega Hernandez 71 71
Simone Bolelli / Fabio Fognini 86 86
Hubert Hurkacz / Ben Shelton 222 52
Francisco Cerundolo / Daniel Evans 311 61
Cameron Norrie / Tommy Paul 315 32
Marcelo Melo / Alexander Zverev 357 54
Alex de Minaur / Grigor Dimitrov 391 44
Felix Auger-Aliassime / Denis Shapovalov 395 37
Karen Khachanov / Andrey Rublev 403 18
Taylor Fritz / Frances Tiafoe 474 21
Sebastian Baez / Jason Kubler 885 63
Lorenzo Musetti / Diego Schwartzman - 58
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina / Emil Ruusuvuori - 62
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Names Current Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Maxime Cressy / Fabrice Martin 93 66
2 Tallon Griekspoor / Botic van de Zandschulp 300 66
3 Roberto Bautista Agut / Roberto Carballes Baena - 78
4 Alexander Erler / Lucas Miedler 82 82
5 Sander Gille / Joran Vliegen 89 89
6 Albert Ramos-Vinolas / Bernabe Zapata Miralles 1133 91
7 Nicolas Mahut / Fabien Reboul 93 93
8 Gonzalo Escobar / Robin Haase 94 94
9 Jack Draper / Jiri Lehecka - 98
10 Julian Cash / Henry Patten 109 109
11 Marcelo Demoliner / Andrea Vavassori 124 110
12 Marcelo Demoliner / Andrea Vavassori 124 124
13 Petros Tsitsipas / Stefanos Tsitsipas 307 133
14 John Peers / Alexei Popyrin 506 135
15 Robert Galloway / Miguel Angel Reyes-Varela 142 142
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ti-amie Tournament: Mutua Madrid Open
Location: Madrid, Spain
Dates: April 25 - May 7, 2023
Level: WTA 1000
Total Financial Commitment: $7,652,174
Surface: Clay
NAME COUNTRY
Swiatek, Iga (POL)
Sabalenka, Aryna
Pegula, Jessica (USA)
Garcia, Caroline (FRA)
Kenin, Sofia [PR] (USA)
Jabeur, Ons (TUN)
Gauff, Coco (USA)
Rybakina, Elena (KAZ)
Kasatkina, Daria
Bencic, Belinda(SUI)
Sakkari, Maria (GRE)
Kudermetova, Veronika
Kvitova, Petra (CZE)
Krejcikova, Barbora (CZE)
Haddad Maia, Beatriz (BRA)
Samsonova, Liudmila
Azarenka, Victoria
Pliskova, Karolina (CZE)
Alexandrova, Ekaterina
Linette, Magda (POL)
Vekic, Donna (CRO)
Keys, Madison (USA)
Pavlyuchenkova, Anastasia [PR]
Ostapenko, Jelena (LAT)
Zheng, Qinwen (CHN)
Trevisan, Martina (ITA)
Potapova, Anastasia
Zhang, Shuai (CHN)
Kalinina, Anhelina (UKR)
Badosa, Paula (ESP)
Collins, Danielle (USA)
Andreescu, Bianca (CAN)
Teichmann, Jil (SUI)
Begu, Irina-Camelia (ROU)
Anisimova, Amanda (USA)
Bouzkova, Marie (CZE)
Pera, Bernarda (USA)
Kostyuk, Marta (UKR)
Mertens, Elise (BEL)
Podoroska, Nadia [PR] (ARG)
Strycova,Barbora [PR] (CZE)
Zhu, Lin (CHN)
Martic, Petra (CRO)
Rogers, Shelby (USA)
Putintseva, Yulia (KAZ)
Giorgi, Camila (ITA)
Sasnovich, Aliaksandra
Siniakova, Katerina (CZE)
Stephens, Sloane (USA)
Davis, Lauren (USA)
Cocciaretto, Elisabetta (ITA)
Fruhvirtova, Linda (CZE)
Noskova, Linda (CZE)
Sherif, Mayar (EGY)
Fernandez, Leylah (CAN)
Gracheva, Varvara
Muchova, Karolina (CZE)
Parks, Alycia (USA)
Kanepi, Kaia (EST)
Wang, Xiyu (CHN)
Liu, Claire (USA)
Bogdan, Ana (ROU)
Wang, Xinyu (CHN)
Riske-Amritraj, Alison (USA)
Blinkova, Anna
Kalinskaya, Anna
Maria, Tatjana (GER)
Cristian, Jaqueline [PR] (ROU)
Tig, Patricia Maria [PR] (ROU)
Cornet, Alizé (FRA)
Niemeier, Jule (GER)
Kovinic, Danka (MNE)
Kontaveit, Anett (EST)
Paolini, Jasmine (ITA)
Raducanu, Emma (GBR)
Bronzetti, Lucia (ITA)
https://mutuamadridopen.com/en/players/
by JazzNU Bencic is going to miss Madrid and Rome
by ponchi101 And speaking of hips. Rafa is also out of Madrid, stating the hip re-hab has not been effective.
We may have seen the last of him.
Odd that Murray, Stan and him would suffer similar injuries, at one time of other of their careers.
by ti-amie The ATP Madrid Entry Lists were finally UPDATED to show Berrettini out. He's citing injury.
Entries
Seed Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Novak Djokovic 1 2
2 Carlos Alcaraz 2 1
3 Casper Ruud 3 4
4 Daniil Medvedev 4 5
5 Stefanos Tsitsipas 5 3
6 Andrey Rublev 6 7
7 Holger Rune 7 8
8 Jannik Sinner 8 11
9 Felix Auger-Aliassime 9 6
10 Taylor Fritz 10 10
11 Karen Khachanov 11 16
12 Frances Tiafoe 12 14
13 Cameron Norrie 13 12
14 Hubert Hurkacz 15 9
15 Alexander Zverev 16 15
16 Pablo Carreno Busta 17 17
17 Tommy Paul 18 19
18 Alex de Minaur 19 18
19 Lorenzo Musetti 20 21
20 Borna Coric 21 20
21 Roberto Bautista Agut 25 28
22 Daniel Evans 26 29
23 Sebastian Korda 27 26
24 Denis Shapovalov 28 30
25 Botic van de Zandschulp 29 32
26 Sebastian Baez 30 33
27 Grigor Dimitrov 31 27
28 Francisco Cerundolo 32 31
29 Miomir Kecmanovic 33 35
30 Tallon Griekspoor 34 36
31 Yoshihito Nishioka 35 34
32 Jiri Lehecka 36 44
Ben Shelton 37 39
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 38 25
Maxime Cressy 39 37
Emil Ruusuvuori 40 54
Bernabe Zapata Miralles 41 41
Richard Gasquet 42 40
Brandon Nakashima 43 45
Lorenzo Sonego 45 59
Adrian Mannarino 46 62
J.J. Wolf 47 50
Diego Schwartzman 48 38
Jack Draper 49 43
Mikael Ymer 50 53
Nicolas Jarry 51 57
Andy Murray 52 52
Roberto Carballes Baena 53 84
Mackenzie McDonald 54 55
Alexander Bublik 55 48
Yibing Wu 56 64
Gregoire Barrere 57 65
Albert Ramos-Vinolas 58 51
Tomas Martin Etcheverry 59 73
Constant Lestienne 60 60
Ilya Ivashka 61 80
Corentin Moutet 62 69
Marc-Andrea Huesler 63 47
Quentin Halys 65 79
Jason Kubler 66 70
Marcos Giron 68 71
Pedro Cachin 69 63
Dusan Lajovic 70 76
Ugo Humbert 72 78
Alex Molcan 73 56
Filip Krajinovic 74 77
Marton Fucsovics 75 74
Soonwoo Kwon 77 75
Laslo Djere 78 58
Nuno Borges 79 68
Christopher O'Connell 82 86
Jaume Munar 83 66
Stan Wawrinka 84 87
Cristian Garin 86 82
Thiago Monteiro 89 81
Juan Pablo Varillas 92 88
Oscar Otte 94 85
David Goffin 99 42
(WC) Dominic Thiem 101
(WC) Abdullah Shelbayh 267
Kyle Edmund 509 48 (PR)
(WC) Martin Landaluce 889
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Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Jeremy Chardy 637 88 (PR)
2 Daniel Elahi Galan 96 89
3 Michael Mmoh 102 90
4 Fabio Fognini 103 91
5 Zhizhen Zhang 95 92
6 Alexei Popyrin 81 93
7 Thanasi Kokkinakis 111 94
8 Marco Cecchinato 85 95
9 Taro Daniel 100 97
10 Hugo Gaston 107 98
11 Max Purcell 88 99
12 Facundo Bagnis 117 100
13 Alexander Shevchenko 98 101
14 Aleksandar Kovacevic 104 102
15 Jan-Lennard Struff 64
Withdrawals
Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
Rafael Nadal 14 13
Matteo Berrettini 22 23
Marin Cilic 23 22
Nick Kyrgios 24 24
Benjamin Bonzi 44 49
John Isner 67 46
Jenson Brooksby 71 61
Federico Coria 76 67
Arthur Rinderknech 80 72
Hugo Dellien 126 73 (PR)
Guido Pella 479 75 (PR)
by ti-amie It doesn't look as if there are any changes on the WTA MD Singles entry lists which of course means nothing.
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Novak Djokovic pulls out of Madrid Masters after losing in a tournament he owns in Banja Luka, saying "I didn't feel very good physically on court. My legs were slow, I missed a lot of balls.” Which means he’s now in perfect shape to compete in the Forster Tennis Club Sunday morning comp #Tennis
by ti-amie UPDATED ATP MD Singles Entry Lists
Entries
Seed Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Carlos Alcaraz 2 1
2 Casper Ruud 3 4
3 Daniil Medvedev 4 5
4 Stefanos Tsitsipas 5 3
5 Andrey Rublev 6 7
6 Holger Rune 7 8
7 Jannik Sinner 8 11
8 Felix Auger-Aliassime 9 6
9 Taylor Fritz 10 10
10 Karen Khachanov 11 16
11 Frances Tiafoe 12 14
12 Cameron Norrie 13 12
13 Hubert Hurkacz 15 9
14 Alexander Zverev 16 15
15 Pablo Carreno Busta 17 17
16 Tommy Paul 18 19
17 Alex de Minaur 19 18
18 Lorenzo Musetti 20 21
19 Borna Coric 21 20
20 Roberto Bautista Agut 25 28
21 Daniel Evans 26 29
22 Sebastian Korda 27 26
23 Denis Shapovalov 28 30
24 Botic van de Zandschulp 29 32
25 Sebastian Baez 30 33
26 Grigor Dimitrov 31 27
27 Francisco Cerundolo 32 31
28 Miomir Kecmanovic 33 35
29 Tallon Griekspoor 34 36
30 Yoshihito Nishioka 35 34
31 Jiri Lehecka 36 44
32 Ben Shelton 37 39
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina 38 25
Maxime Cressy 39 37
Emil Ruusuvuori 40 54
Bernabe Zapata Miralles 41 41
Richard Gasquet 42 40
Lorenzo Sonego 45 59
Adrian Mannarino 46 62
J.J. Wolf 47 50
Diego Schwartzman 48 38
Mikael Ymer 50 53
Nicolas Jarry 51 57
Andy Murray 52 52
Roberto Carballes Baena 53 84
Mackenzie McDonald 54 55
Alexander Bublik 55 48
Yibing Wu 56 64
Gregoire Barrere 57 65
Albert Ramos-Vinolas 58 51
Tomas Martin Etcheverry 59 73
Constant Lestienne 60 60
Ilya Ivashka 61 80
Corentin Moutet 62 69
Marc-Andrea Huesler 63 47
Quentin Halys 65 79
Jason Kubler 66 70
Marcos Giron 68 71
Pedro Cachin 69 63
Dusan Lajovic 70 76
Ugo Humbert 72 78
Alex Molcan 73 56
Filip Krajinovic 74 77
Marton Fucsovics 75 74
Laslo Djere 78 58
Nuno Borges 79 68
Christopher O'Connell 82 86
Jaume Munar 83 66
Stan Wawrinka 84 87
Cristian Garin 86 82
Thiago Monteiro 89 81
Juan Pablo Varillas 92 88
Oscar Otte 94 85
Zhizhen Zhang 95 92
Daniel Elahi Galan 96 89
David Goffin 99 42
(WC) Dominic Thiem 101
Fabio Fognini 103 91
(WC) Abdullah Shelbayh 267
Kyle Edmund 509 48 (PR)
Jeremy Chardy 637 88 (PR)
(WC) Martin Landaluce 889
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Alternates
Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
1 Alexei Popyrin 81 93
2 Thanasi Kokkinakis 111 94
3 Marco Cecchinato 85 95
4 Taro Daniel 100 97
5 Hugo Gaston 107 98
6 Alexander Shevchenko 98 101
7 Aleksandar Kovacevic 104 102
8 Jan-Lennard Struff 64 103
9 Roman Safiullin 106 104
10 Juan Manuel Cerundolo 123 105
11 Dominic Thiem 101 106
12 Aslan Karatsev 129 107
13 Luca Van Assche 87 108
14 Arthur Fils 122 109
15 Radu Albot 110 110
Withdrawals
Name Seeding Ranking Entry Ranking
Novak Djokovic 1 2
Rafael Nadal 14 13
Matteo Berrettini 22 23
Marin Cilic 23 22
Nick Kyrgios 24 24
Brandon Nakashima 43 45
Benjamin Bonzi 44 49
Jack Draper 49 43
John Isner 67 46
Jenson Brooksby 71 61
Federico Coria 76 67
Soonwoo Kwon 77 75
Arthur Rinderknech 80 72
Hugo Dellien 126 73 (PR)
Guido Pella 479 75 (PR)
by ti-amie There are still no updates on the WTA Entry Lists.
by ti-amie Qualifying Draw - ATP
(1) Jan-Lennard Struff vsLuca Nardi
Raul Brancaccio vs (22) Aslan Karatsev
(2) Marco Cecchinato vs Timofey Skatov
Jozef Kovalik vs (19) Giulio Zeppieri
(3) Luca Van Assche vs Felipe Meligeni Alves
Andrea Vavassori vs (14) Otto Virtanen
(4) Daniel Altmaier vs (PR) Attila Balazs
Laurent Lokoli vs (15) Jurij Rodionov
(5) Alexandre Muller vs Kaichi Uchida
(WC) Benoit Paire vs (20) Francesco Passaro
(6) Alexander Shevchenko vs Antoine Bellier
Chun-Hsin Tseng vs (18) Juan Manuel Cerundolo
(7) Taro Daniel vs (WC) Daniel Rincon
Lukas Klein vs (21) Hugo Grenier
(8) Matteo Arnaldi vs Filip Misolic
(WC) Reda Bennani vs (17) Arthur Fils
(9) Roman Safiullin vs Joao Sousa
Elias Ymer vs (16) Sebastian Ofner
(10) Pavel Kotov vs Kimmer Coppejans
Federico Delbonis vs (13) Yosuke Watanuki
(11) Borna Gojo vs Jan Choinski
(WC) Pablo Andujar vs (23) Zsombor Piros
(12) Yannick Hanfmann vs Maximilian Marterer
(WC) Arthur Cazaux vs (24) Pedro Martinez
by ti-amie Qualifying Draw - WTA
V. Tomova (1) vs L. Romero Gormaz
K. Kucova vs C. Burel (19)
J. Grabher (2) vs A. Konjuh
D. Yastremska vs E. Lys (20)
N. Parrizas Diaz (3) v D. Papamichail
E. Avanesyan vs T. Korpatsch (15)
M. Vondrousova (4) vs M. Bjorklund
A. Lazaro Garcia vs T. Townsend (23)
S. Errani (5) vs K. Mladenovic
R. Vicens Mas vs J. Burrage (17)
Y. Bonaventure (6) vs E. Ruse
J. Bouzas Maneiro vs L. Jeanjean (22)
A. Friedsam (7) vs M. Uchijima
C. Martinez Cirez vs A. Rus (16)
K. Rakhimova (8) vs A. Fita Boluda
V. Hruncakova vs L. Siegemund (14)
A. Schmiedlova (9) vs L. Pigossi
R. Jani vs K. Birrell (21)
T. Martincova (10) vs I. Burillo Escorihuela
E. Arango vs E. Andreeva (24)
O. Dodin (11) vs E. Mandlik
E. Bouchard vs S. Sorribes Tormo (13)
M. Frech (12) vs O. Danilovic
A. Bolsova vs D. Parry (18)
by ti-amie Monday, April 24, 2023 Day 1
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 10:00 Am
Q1
(7) Taro Daniel VS (WC) Daniel Rincon
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(WC) Arthur Cazaux VS (24) Pedro Martinez
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(WC) Benoit Paire VS (20) Francesco Passaro
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Federico Delbonis VS (13) Yosuke Watanuki
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(9) Roman Safiullin VS Joao Sousa
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(WC) Pablo Andujar VS (23) Zsombor Piros
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 10:00 Am
(1) Viktoriya Tomova VS Leyre Romero Gormaz
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(3) Nuria Parrizas Diaz VS Despina Papamichail
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Eugenie Bouchard VS (13) Sara Sorribes Tormo
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(5) Sara Errani VS Kristina Mladenovic
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(WC) Carlota Martinez Cirez VS (16) Arantxa Rus
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Aliona Bolsova VS (18) Diane Parry
STADIUM 3 Starts At 10:00 Am
Q1
(2) Marco Cecchinato VS Timofey Skatov
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(12) Yannick Hanfmann VS Maximilian Marterer
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Q1
(1) Jan-Lennard Struff VS Luca Nardi
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Q1
Raul Brancaccio VS (22) Aslan Karatsev
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Q1
(WC) Reda Bennani VS (17) Arthur Fils
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(6) Alexander Shevchenko VS Antoine Bellier
COURT 4 Starts At 10:00 Am
Kristina Kucova VS (19) Clara Burel
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Dayana Yastremska VS (20) Eva Lys
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(WC)
Jessica Bouzas Maneiro VS (22) Leolia Jeanjean
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Rosa Vicens Mas VS (17) Jodie Burrage
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(7) Anna-Lena Friedsam VS Moyuka Uchijima
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(4) Marketa Vondrousova VS Mirjam Bjorklund
COURT 5 Starts At 10:00 Am
Q1
Lukas Klein VS (21) Hugo Grenier
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Q1
(5) Alexandre Muller VS Kaichi Uchida
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Q1
(3) Luca Van Assche VS Felipe Meligeni Alves
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Q1
Andrea Vavassori VS (14) Otto Virtanen
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(11) Borna Gojo VS Jan Choinski
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Q1
(8) Matteo Arnaldi VS Filip Misolic
COURT 6 Starts At 10:00 Am
(9) Anna Karolina Schmiedlova VS Laura Pigossi
Followed By
Elina Avanesyan VS (15) Tamara Korpatsch
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(11) Oceane Dodin VS Elizabeth Mandlik
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(8) Kamilla Rakhimova VS (WC) Angela Fita Boluda
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(10) Tereza Martincova VS (WC) Irene Burillo Escorihuela
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(WC) Andrea Lazaro Garcia VS (23) Taylor Townsend
COURT 7 Starts At 10:00 Am
Q1
Jozef Kovalik VS (19) Giulio Zeppieri
Followed By
Q1
Laurent Lokoli VS (15) Jurij Rodionov
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Q1
(4) Daniel Altmaier VS (PR) Attila Balazs
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Q1
(10) Pavel Kotov VS Kimmer Coppejans
Followed By
Q1
Elias Ymer VS (16) Sebastian Ofner
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Q1
Chun-Hsin Tseng VS (18) Juan Manuel Cerundolo
COURT 8 Starts At 10:00 Am
Reka-Luca Jani VS (21) Kimberly Birrell
Followed By
(2) Julia Grabher VS Ana Konjuh
Followed By
(6) Ysaline Bonaventure VS Elena-Gabriela Ruse
Followed By
Viktoria Hruncakova VS (14) Laura Siegemund
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(WC) Emiliana Arango VS (24) Erika Andreeva
Followed By
(12) Magdalena Frech VS Olga Danilovic
by ti-amie ATP MD Singles
(1) Carlos Alcaraz/Bye
Emil Ruusuvuori vs Ugo Humbert
(WC) Emilio Nava vs Gregoire Barrere
Bye/(26) Grigor Dimitrov
(22) Sebastian Korda/Bye
Diego Schwartzman vs Qualifier
Roberto Carballes Baena vs David Goffin
Bye/(13) Alexander Zverev
(10) Karen Khachanov/Bye
Thiago Monteiro vs Qualifier
Alexei Popyrin vs Quentin Halys
Bye/(20) Roberto Bautista Agut
(28) Yoshihito Nishioka/Bye
Yibing Wu vs Alex Molcan
Maxime Cressy vs Stan Wawrinka
Bye/(5) Andrey Rublev
(3) Casper Ruud/Bye
Qualifier vs Qualifier
Thanasi Kokkinakis vs Jaume Munar
Bye/(30) Tallon Griekspoor
(18) Pablo Carreno Busta/Bye
Fabio Fognini vs Oscar Otte
Juan Pablo Varillas vs Qualifier
Bye/(15) Lorenzo Musetti
(12) Hubert Hurkacz/Bye
(WC) Martin Landaluce vs Richard Gasquet
(PR) Jeremy Chardy vs (WC) Hugo Gaston
Bye/(17) Borna Coric
(29) Alejandro Davidovich Fokina/Bye
Albert Ramos-Vinolas vs Ilya Ivashka
Alexander Bublik vs Daniel Elahi Galan
Bye/(6) Holger Rune
(7) Felix Auger-Aliassime/Bye
Jason Kubler vs Dusan Lajovic
Lorenzo Sonego vs Qualifier
Bye/(32) Ben Shelton
(24) Francisco Cerundolo/Bye
(WC) Abdullah Shelbayh vs Pedro Cachin
Tomas Martin Etcheverry vs Adrian Mannarino
Bye/(9) Frances Tiafoe
(14) Tommy Paul/Bye
Qualifier vs Nicolas Jarry
Mackenzie McDonald vs Bernabe Zapata Miralles
Bye/(19) Daniel Evans
(25) Sebastian Baez/Bye
Nuno Borges vs Marcos Giron
(PR) Kyle Edmund vs (WC) Dominic Thiem
Bye/(4) Stefanos Tsitsipas
(8) Taylor Fritz/Bye
Christopher O'Connell vs Filip Krajinovic
Cristian Garin vs Marc-Andrea Huesler
Bye/ (27) Miomir Kecmanovic
(21) Denis Shapovalov/Bye
Qualifier vs Zhizhen Zhang
Corentin Moutet vs Constant Lestienne
Bye/(11) Cameron Norrie
(16) Alex de Minaur/Bye
Marton Fucsovics vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs Laslo Djere
Bye/ (23) Botic van de Zandschulp
(31) Jiri Lehecka/Bye
J.J. Wolf vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs Andy Murray
Bye/(2) Daniil Medvedev
by ti-amie WTA MD Singles UPDATED
POL I. Swiatek (1)/BYE
GBR E. Raducanu vs Qualifier
PHI A. Eala vs GER T. Maria
BYE/USA B. Pera (28)
CHN Q. Zheng (22)/BYE
HUN D. Galfi vs USA C. McNally
FRA A. Cornet vs Qualifier
BYE/RUS E. Alexandrova (16)
CZE B. Krejcikova (11)/BYE
MNE D. Kovinic vs Qualifier
RUS V. Gracheva vs CHN X. Wang
BYE/CAN B. Andreescu (23)
CRO P. Martic (27)/BYE
ARG N. Podoroska vs Qualifier
RUS A. Kalinskaya vs CZE B. Fruhvirtova
BYE/KAZ E. Rybakina (7)
USA J. Pegula (3)/BYE
ITA J. Paolini vs Qualifier
UKR E. Svitolina vs BLR A. Sasnovich
BYE/CZE M. Bouzkova (29)
ITA M. Trevisan (18)/BYE
Qualifier vs Qualifier
Qualifier vs USA A. Parks
BYE/BLR V. Azarenka (15)
RUS V. Kudermetova (12)/BYE
RUS A. Blinkova vs Qualifier
ROU J. Cristian vs USA S. Stephens
BYE/RUS A. Potapova (21)
SUI J. Teichmann (25)/BYE
UKR L. Tsurenko vs ITA L. Bronzetti
AND V. Jimenez Kasintseva vs RUS A. Pavlyuchenkova
BYE/RUS D. Kasatkina (8)
USA C. Gauff (6)/BYE
EST K. Kanepi vs USA S. Rogers
CZE B. Strycova vs ITA E. Cocciaretto
BYE/ESP P. Badosa (26)
CRO D. Vekic (20)/BYE
ESP R. Masarova vs ESP C. Bucsa
USA A. Anisimova vs Qualifier
BYE/GRE M. Sakkari (9)
RUS L. Samsonova (14)/BYE
BEL M. Zanevska vs USA S. Kenin
CZE L. Fruhvirtova vs USA K. Volynets
BYE/LAT J. Ostapenko (19)
ROU I. Begu (31)/BYE
EST A. Kontaveit vs CZE K. Muchova
ROU A. Bogdan vs HUN A. Bondar
BYE/USA S. Rogers (33)
FRA C. Garcia (5)/BYE
KAZ Y. Putintseva vs USA C. Liu
ITA C. Giorgi vs EGY M. Sherif
BYE/UKR A. Kalinina (30)
BEL E. Mertens (24)/BYE
CHN L. Zhu vs CAN R. Marino
GER J. Niemeier vs CHN X. Wang
BYE/CZE P. Kvitova (10)
BRA B. Haddad Maia (13)/BYE
RUS M. Andreeva vs CAN L. Fernandez
Qualifier vs ESP M. Bassols Ribera
BYE/POL M. Linette (17)
UKR M. Kostyuk (32)/BYE
COL C. Osorio vs Qualifier
ROU S. Cirstea vs USA L. Davis
BYE/BLR A. Sabalenka (2)
by Owendonovan Anyone know if Korda is actually in Europe?
by ti-amie WTA MD Singles updated to show Rogers now seeded 33
by ponchi101 It would have been too quick a turn around for Ons. And tears don't heal that quickly; Rome might be also out of her reach.
by Owendonovan I need Borna to play like a player ranked 20, not 200, for a tournament.
by JazzNU I missed that Barbora Strycova was making a comeback.
by
JazzNU Owendonovan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 2:47 am
I need Borna to play like a player ranked 20, not 200, for a tournament.
Since we're just throwing things out there, I need him to get a haircut.
by ti-amie Just throwing this out too. The WTA is playing first round matches today. You can have an on court meltdown and throw your racquet into the stands and not hit a soul.
by ti-amie WTA Qualifiers placed
Raducanu vs Tomova (LL)
Cornet vs Ruse
Kovinic vs Errani
Podoroska vs Siegemund
Paolini vs Frech
Yastremska vs Bouchard
Schmiedlova vs Parks
Blinkova vs Parrizas Diaz
Kanepi vs Burillo Escorihuela
Anisimova vs Rus
Vondrousova vs Bassols Ribera
Osorio vs Burel
Thanks to @monzonator
by ti-amie Wednesday, April 26, 2023 Day 3
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(WC) Rebeka Masarova VS Cristina Bucsa
Followed By
(WC) Elina Svitolina VS Aliaksandra Sasnovich
Followed By
Maxime Cressy VS Stan Wawrinka
Not Before 4:00 PM
Emma Raducanu VS (LL) Viktoriya Tomova
Followed By
(WC) Martin Landaluce VS Richard Gasquet
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Albert Ramos-Vinolas VS Ilya Ivashka
Followed By
Roberto Carballes Baena VS David Goffin
Followed By
(WC) Victoria Jimenez Kasintseva VS Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova
Followed By
Thanasi Kokkinakis VS Jaume Munar
Followed By
Jaqueline Cristian VS Sloane Stephens
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(WC) Mirra Andreeva VS Leylah Fernandez
Followed By
Anna Kalinskaya VS (WC) Brenda Fruhvirtova
Followed By
(Q) Marketa Vondrousova VS (WC) Marina Bassols Ribera
Followed By
Diego Schwartzman VS (Q) Hugo Grenier
Followed By
Emil Ruusuvuori VS Ugo Humbert
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
(PR) Jeremy Chardy VS (WC) Hugo Gaston
Followed By
Yibing Wu VS Alex Molcan
Followed By
Alexander Bublik VS Daniel Elahi Galan
Followed By
(LL) Pavel Kotov VS Oscar Otte
Followed By
Thiago Monteiro VS (Q) Borna Gojo
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
(WC) Alexandra Eala VS Tatjana Maria
Followed By
Amanda Anisimova VS (Q) Arantxa Rus
Followed By
Anna Blinkova VS (Q) Nuria Parrizas Diaz
Followed By
Jasmine Paolini VS (Q) Magdalena Frech
Followed By
(Q) Dayana Yastremska VS (Q) Eugenie Bouchard
COURT 6 Starts At 11:00 Am
(WC) Emilio Nava VS Gregoire Barrere
Followed By
Alexei Popyrin VS Quentin Halys
Followed By
Juan Pablo Varillas VS (Q) Yannick Hanfmann
Followed By
(Q) Benoit Paire VS (Q) Matteo Arnaldi
COURT 7 Starts At 11:00 Am
Camila Giorgi VS Mayar Sherif
Followed By
(WC) Camila Osorio VS (Q) Clara Burel
Followed By
Kaia Kanepi VS (Q) Irene Burillo Escorihuela
Followed By
Nadia Podoroska VS (Q) Laura Siegemund
Followed By
Alizé Cornet VS (Q) Elena-Gabriela Ruse
COURT 8 Starts At 11:00 Am
Dalma Galfi VS Caty McNally
Followed By
Varvara Gracheva VS Xiyu Wang
Followed By
Lesia Tsurenko VS Lucia Bronzetti
Followed By
(Q) Anna Karolina Schmiedlova VS Alycia Parks
Followed By
Danka Kovinic VS (Q) Sara Errani
by
JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:31 pm
Just throwing this out too. The WTA is playing first round matches today. You can have an on court meltdown and throw your racquet into the stands and not hit a soul.
There's were a decent number of fans on-site today, but they were at the Spanish women's players' qualifying matches and also a few of the men's qualifying matches from what I saw more than anywhere else. Benoit Paire's match was very well attended, for instance.
I'm not sure if there's a price difference between qualifying matches and first round ones today. Or this could be about the hullabaloo surrounding the lack of Spanish players and wildcards after the new owners took over.
by ponchi101 ESPN down here did not even show today matches. They will start tomorrow.
by
Owendonovan ti-amie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 5:31 pm
Just throwing this out too. The WTA is playing first round matches today. You can have an on court meltdown and throw your racquet into the stands and not hit a soul.
...might make it easier to avoid a default.
by JazzNU I know very few care about her so I assume that's why she's able to fly under the radar the way she has been, but Yastremska's results pre and post suspension are night and day. Most with overturned suspensions return to previous form and she most certainly has not. Kudos on the creative defense, but the few people who bought that must be wondering now why they ever did.
by
ponchi101 JazzNU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 7:49 pm
I know very few care about her so I assume that's why she's able to fly under the radar the way she has been, but Yastremska's results pre and post suspension are night and day. Most with overturned suspensions return to previous form and she most certainly has not. Kudos on the creative defense, but the few people who bought that must be wondering now why they ever did.
So completely out of my mind that I had not even noticed she had been gone. And returned.
Not that I mind either way. Txs for noticing.
by ponchi101 And, BTW. Leylah lost today to a 15 yo ranked 194 (well, too young to be ranked much higher). She is actually ranked so low her BIO page in the WTA website is empty.
That 2021 USO final will go down as perhaps the most extreme example of a Black Swan in tennis, or even all sports. Leylah has done better than Emma, but she has also failed to gain any traction from that good run.
by ti-amie Thursday, April 27, 2023 Day 4
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(PR) Kyle Edmund VS (WC) Dominic Thiem
Not Before 1:00 PM
(6) Coco Gauff VS I. Burillo Escorihuela
Followed By
Elisabetta Cocciaretto VS (26) Paula Badosa
Not Before 4:30 Pm
(Q) Andrea Vavassori VS Andy Murray
Not Before 7:00 PM
Sorana Cirstea VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Jule Niemeier VS (10) Petra Kvitova
Followed By
Cristian Garin VS Marc-Andrea Huesler
Followed By
Lorenzo Sonego VS (LL) Jan-Lennard Struff
Not Before 5:00 PM
(5) Caroline Garcia VS Yulia Putintseva
Followed By
Mackenzie McDonald VS Bernabe Zapata Miralles
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(Q) Arantxa Rus VS (9) Maria Sakkari
Followed By
(20) Donna Vekic VS (WC) Rebeka Masarova
Followed By
(WC) Abdullah Shelbayh VS Pedro Cachin
Followed By
Marton Fucsovics VS (Q) Marco Cecchinato
Followed By
Jason Kubler VS Dusan Lajovic
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
Tomas Martin Etcheverry VS Adrian Mannarino
Followed By
(Q) Jurij Rodionov VS Zhizhen Zhang
Followed By
Linda Fruhvirtova VS (19) Jelena Ostapenko
Followed By
M. Vondrousova VS (17) Magda Linette
Followed By
(31) Irina-Camelia Begu VS Karolina Muchova
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
J.J. Wolf VS (Q) Alexander Shevchenko
Followed By
Corentin Moutet VS (Q) Yosuke Watanuki
Followed By
(14) Liudmila Samsonova VS Maryna Zanevska
Followed By
Mayar Sherif VS (30) Anhelina Kalinina
After Suitable Rest
(1) Coco Gauff/Jessica Pegula VS Alexa Guarachi/Erin Routliffe
COURT 6 Starts At 11:00 Am
(Q) Roman Safiullin VS Nicolas Jarry
Followed By
Alex de Minaur/Grigor Dimitrov VS Nathaniel Lammons/Jackson Withrow
Followed By
Nuno Borges VS Marcos Giron
Followed By
Christopher O'Connell VS Filip Krajinovic
Followed By
(Q) Aslan Karatsev VS Laslo Djere
COURT 7 Starts At 11:00 Am
(13) Beatriz Haddad Maia VS (WC) Mirra Andreeva
Followed By
(32) Marta Kostyuk VS C. Osorio
Followed By
(24) Elise Mertens VS Rebecca Marino
After Suitable Rest
(OSE) Victoria Azarenka/Beatriz Haddad Maia VS (3) Desirae Krawczyk/Demi Schuurs
Followed By
Ana Bogdan VS (33) Shelby Rogers
COURT 8 Starts At 11:00 Am
(8) Yifan Xu/Zhaoxuan Yang VS (OSE) Ekaterina Alexandrova/Anastasia Potapova
Followed By
(OSE) Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova/Elena Rybakina VS (7) Shuko Aoyama/Ena Shibahara
Followed By
Roberto Bautista Agut/Daniel Evans VS (7) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
Followed By
Alejandro Davidovich Fokina/Emil Ruusuvuori VS Marcelo Melo/Alexander Zverev
Followed By
(6) Lloyd Glasspool/Harri Heliovaara VS Hubert Hurkacz/Ben Shelton
by ti-amie Grabher replaced Raducanu in the draw after the latter withdrew at the last minute.
by
JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:57 pm
And, BTW. Leylah lost today to a 15 yo ranked 194 (well, too young to be ranked much higher). She is actually ranked so low her BIO page in the WTA website is empty.
Not making excuses for Leylah, she probably should've won against the very young player, but this is a loss that might not look so bad in a few years. This event is now owned by IMG, which means this player is going to be a wild card entry, meaning she's an IMG repped player. It's how they work with few exceptions. They rarely rep nobodies so she's likely a hot prospect to keep an eye on in the future. They have had plenty of busts, but the potential is there just about every time, many times with good to great junior results. The exception to this rule, besides veteran players returning from injury, is if it is her sister that is the really talented player and they are just doing a favor by giving her a wild card. Given her win over Leylah, I'm thinking that's not the case here and they think both sisters have top tier talent, in the same vein as the Fruhvirtova sisters.
by
skatingfan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:57 pm
That 2021 USO final will go down as perhaps the most extreme example of a Black Swan in tennis, or even all sports. Leylah has done better than Emma, but she has also failed to gain any traction from that good run.
I think Fernandez has returned to the ranking/results that were expected. She had a good run at that US Open, but it's hard to replicate that run all the time when you're winning matches tight matches in 3 sets.
by
ponchi101 skatingfan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:57 pm
That 2021 USO final will go down as perhaps the most extreme example of a Black Swan in tennis, or even all sports. Leylah has done better than Emma, but she has also failed to gain any traction from that good run.
I think Fernandez has returned to the ranking/results that were expected. She had a good run at that US Open, but it's hard to replicate that run all the time when you're winning matches tight matches in 3 sets.
Still early, and I am covering my tracks by the use of "perhaps". Right now, it seems like that final was a fluke, but both players are still very young. Again, making conclusions after that final ("Emma will become a dominant force in the next years, Leylah has Slam champion written all over her") was a risky proposition. Making the opposite claims right now is not without peril, either.
by ti-amie Leylah is still out there fighting. Raducanu seems to be the one who isn't willing to put in the work to try and top an elite athlete.
by
skatingfan ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:17 am
Leylah is still out there fighting. Raducanu seems to be the one who isn't willing to put in the work to try and top an elite athlete.
I wonder about the impact of all the injuries. It has to be discouraging.
by
ponchi101 JazzNU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:27 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:57 pm
And, BTW. Leylah lost today to a 15 yo ranked 194 (well, too young to be ranked much higher). She is actually ranked so low her BIO page in the WTA website is empty.
Not making excuses for Leylah, she probably should've won against the very young player,
but this is a loss that might not look so bad in a few years. ...
The loss ended up not looking so bad in a few days (one, actually). Andreeva took out Haddad Maia, seeded 13, so maybe this girl can play more than what her ranking right now says.
by ti-amie Friday, April 28, 2023 Day 5
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova VS (8) Daria Kasatkina
Not Before 1:00 Pm
Stan Wawrinka VS (5) Andrey Rublev
Not Before 4:00 Pm
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS Emil Ruusuvuori
Not Before 8:00 PM
(1) Iga Swiatek VS (LL) Julia Grabher
Followed By
Roberto Carballes Baena VS (13) Alexander Zverev
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(3) Casper Ruud VS (Q) Matteo Arnaldi
Not Before 1:00 PM
Anna Kalinskaya VS (7) Elena Rybakina
Followed By
Alycia Parks VS (15) Victoria Azarenka
Followed By
(3) Jessica Pegula VS (Q) Magdalena Frech
Followed By
Alexander Bublik VS (6) Holger Rune
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(11) Barbora Krejcikova VS Danka Kovinic
Followed By
Gregoire Barrere VS (26) Grigor Dimitrov
Followed By
Quentin Halys VS (20) Roberto Bautista Agut
Followed By
(12) Hubert Hurkacz VS Richard Gasquet
Followed By
Xiyu Wang VS (23) Bianca Andreescu
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
Daniel Altmaier VS Oscar Otte
Followed By
(18) Martina Trevisan VS (Q) Eugenie Bouchard
Followed By
Alizé Cornet VS (16) Ekaterina Alexandrova
Followed By
(25) Jil Teichmann VS Lesia Tsurenko
Followed By
(29) Alejandro Davidovich Fokina VS Albert Ramos-Vinolas
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
(12) Veronika Kudermetova VS (Q) Nuria Parrizas Diaz
Followed By
(27) Petra Martic VS (Q) Laura Siegemund
Followed By
(WC) Paula Badosa/Bethanie Mattek-Sands VS (WC) Brenda Fruhvirtova/Linda Fruhvirtova
After Suitable Rest
Veronika Kudermetova/Liudmila Samsonova VS Monica Niculescu/Makoto Ninomiya
Followed By
Nadiia Kichenok/Kimberley Zimmermann VS (WC) Erika Andreeva/Mirra Andreeva
Followed By
Timea Babos/Anna Danilina VS Marta Kostyuk/Elena-Gabriela Ruse
COURT 6 Starts At 11:00 Am
Jaume Munar VS (30) Tallon Griekspoor
Followed By
(Q) Yannick Hanfmann VS (15) Lorenzo Musetti
Followed By
(10) Karen Khachanov VS Thiago Monteiro
Followed By
(WC) Hugo Gaston VS (17) Borna Coric
Followed By
(22) Sebastian Korda VS (Q) Hugo Grenier
COURT 7 Starts At 11:00 Am
(28) Yoshihito Nishioka VS Alex Molcan
Followed By
Taylor Fritz/Frances Tiafoe VS Cameron Norrie/Tommy Paul
Followed By
Felix Auger-Aliassime/Denis Shapovalov VS Juan Sebastian Cabal/Robert Farah
Followed By
(5) Nikola Mektic/Mate Pavic VS Sebastian Baez/Jason Kubler
Followed By
(WC) Petros Tsitsipas/Stefanos Tsitsipas VS (4) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer
Followed By
(WC) Daniel Rincon/Abdullah Shelbayh VS (8) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
COURT 8 Starts At 11:00 Am
(22) Qinwen Zheng VS Caty McNally
Followed By
Tatjana Maria VS (28) Bernarda Pera
Followed By
(OSE) Sofia Kenin/Magda Linette VS (6) Gabriela Dabrowski/Luisa Stefani
Followed By
Jaqueline Cristian VS (21) Anastasia Potapova
Followed By
Aliaksandra Sasnovich VS (29) Marie Bouzkova
by
3mlm ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 3:41 pm
JazzNU wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 11:27 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:57 pm
And, BTW. Leylah lost today to a 15 yo ranked 194 (well, too young to be ranked much higher). She is actually ranked so low her BIO page in the WTA website is empty.
Not making excuses for Leylah, she probably should've won against the very young player,
but this is a loss that might not look so bad in a few years. ...
The loss ended up not looking so bad in a few days (one, actually). Andreeva took out Haddad Maia, seeded 13, so maybe this girl can play more than what her ranking right now says.
Andreeva reached the final of the junior Australian Open this year and won two ITF $60K tournaments on clay in April, including a win over Podoroska who reached the FO semifinals a few years ago. She's won six ITF titles overall and is 13-0 in ITF wins this year. She'll be 16 on Sunday.
by ponchi101 Seems like the book is out on Ruud. 3 & 4 loss against Matteo Arnaldi (who?), who came in from the qualies. And this is clay, so I would say Casper has no explanations for this.
by
JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 4:25 pm
Seems like the book is out on Ruud. 3 & 4 loss against Matteo Arnaldi (who?), who came in from the qualies. And this is clay, so I would say Casper has no explanations for this.
Not that bad of a loss most likely. One that Casper should win with this being his best surface, but he's clearly in a bit of a slump this season, wouldn't say it's over and done for him anytime soon. Arnaldi is somewhat of an unknown, but not for much longer. He was in the Next Gen Finals last year. He beat Munar last week and this week Paire and Fils (the talented young Frenchmen who has been on the rise recently) in addition to Ruud. I think he's about to crack the top 100 and he's pretty young, so I'm guessing we'll be adding him into the conversation of the Italian men's resurgence.
by skatingfan We'll have a much better idea where Ruud's game, and head are at after the French Open. He has a fair number of points to defend through till the end of the clay court season, but so far he's matched last year's results with the exception that he lost 45 points because he didn't play Munich, probably because of the changes to Rome & Madrid.
by Owendonovan Ruud's rut strikes me as a personal issue, not really a tennis issue, distracted.
by ti-amie Saturday, April 29, 2023 Day 6
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(Q) Andrea Vavassori VS (2) Daniil Medvedev
Not Before 1:00 PM
(WC) Camila Osorio VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
Not Before 4:00 PM
(6) Coco Gauff VS (26) Paula Badosa
Not Before 8:00 Pm
(WC) Dominic Thiem VS (4) Stefanos Tsitsipas
Followed By
(WC) Rebeka Masarova VS (9) Maria Sakkari
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(24) Elise Mertens VS Jule Niemeier
Followed By
(7) Felix Auger-Aliassime VS Dusan Lajovic
Followed By
(8) Taylor Fritz VS Christopher O'Connell
Followed By
(21) Denis Shapovalov VS Zhizhen Zhang
Not Before 6:00 PM
(5) Caroline Garcia VS Mayar Sherif
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(31) Irina-Camelia Begu VS (33) Shelby Rogers
Followed By
(14) Liudmila Samsonova VS (19) Jelena Ostapenko
Followed By
Bernabe Zapata Miralles VS (19) Daniel Evans
Followed By
Tomas Martin Etcheverry VS (9) Frances Tiafoe
Followed By
(Q) Yosuke Watanuki VS (11) Cameron Norrie
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
(31) Jiri Lehecka VS (Q) Alexander Shevchenko
Followed By
(14) Tommy Paul VS (Q) Roman Safiullin
Followed By
(WC) Mirra Andreeva VS (17) Magda Linette
Followed By
(24) Francisco Cerundolo VS Pedro Cachin
Followed By
(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski VS Kevin Krawiez/Tim Puetz
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
(LL) Jan-Lennard Struff VS (32) Ben Shelton
Followed By
(16) Alex de Minaur VS (Q) Marco Cecchinato
Followed By
Cristian Garin VS (27) Miomir Kecmanovic
Followed By
(3) Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek VS Simone Bolelli/Fabrice Martin
COURT 6 Starts At 11:00 Am
Jamie Murray/Michael Venus VS (2) Rajeev Ram/Joe Salisbury
Followed By
(Q) Aslan Karatsev VS (23) Botic van de Zandschulp
Followed By
(25) Sebastian Baez VS Marcos Giron
Followed By
Hugo Nys/Jan Zielinski VS Alexander Erler/Lucas Miedler
Followed By
Matwe Middelkoop/Andreas Mies VS Maximo Gonzalez/Andres Molteni
COURT 7 Starts At 11:00 Am
Su-Wei Hsieh/Barbora Strycova VS Hao-Ching Chan/Latisha Chan
Followed By
Laura Siegemund/Vera Zvonareva VS Anna Kalinskaya/Caty McNally
Followed By
Tereza Mihalikova/Alycia Parks VS Oksana Kalashnikova/Yana Sizikova
Followed By
Giuliana Olmos/Alexandra Panova VS Kirsten Flipkens/Alicja Rosolska
After Suitable Rest
Leylah Fernandez/Taylor Townsend VS (2) Lyudmyla Kichenok/Jelena Ostapenko
COURT 8 Starts At 11:00 Am
(5) Nicole Melichar-Martinez/Ellen Perez VS Miyu Kato/Aldila Sutjiadi
Followed By
Marcel Granollers/Horacio Zeballos VS Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev
Not Before 2:00 Pm
Rafael Matos/David Vega Hernandez VS (WC) Roberto Carballes Baena/Martin Landaluce
After Suitable Rest
(4) Storm Hunter/Elise Mertens VS (OSE) Daria Kasatkina/Martina Trevisan
Followed By
TBD VS (OSE) Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova/Elena Rybakina
by ashkor87 Samsonova justifying my confidence in her.. that was an impressive demolition of Ostapenko.. the players seem to find that the ball flies a bit too much at Madrid, because of the altitude, maybe doesnt suit Ostapenko's flat out hitting..
anyway, one should not read too much into Madrid.. the champion at Madrid seldom goes on to win at RG (except if his name is Nadal)..
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JazzNU Owendonovan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:15 pm
Ruud's rut strikes me as a personal issue, not really a tennis issue, distracted.
I don't have any information about this, but there were commentators on his final Aussie Open match that felt the need to tell me something similar in a very strange and offputting way, so there definitely might be something to your theory.
by JazzNU Petkovic said during the Karatsev vs. Van de Zandschulp, that "Van de Zandschulp just looks perpetually disappointed by life." Absolutely dying. Not sure if she'll stick around with the commentating, but she's been growing on me. I think who she partners with matters right now, but probably won't as much later on.
by mick1303 15 yo continues her run. 3rd top 50 win in a raw. Actually two of them is top 20.
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ponchi101 JazzNU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:05 pm
Petkovic said during the Karatsev vs. Van de Zandschulp, that "Van de Zandschulp just looks perpetually disappointed by life." Absolutely dying. Not sure if she'll stick around with the commentating, but she's been growing on me. I think who she partners with matters right now, but probably won't as much later on.
Botic is Dutch. Now, I really don't want to go for the stereotypes but, when a GERMAN WOMAN says that you are perpetually disappointed by life, well...
(How I wish I could listen to her. Here? Today they decided not to show any matches. NONE. Why? Football
)
by ashkor87 Samsonova doing well... as I expected.. her game is good for this surface.. not sure she can do well at Rome or RG but hoping she can..
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ponchi101 mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 4:05 pm
15 yo continues her run. 3rd top 50 win in a raw. Actually two of them is top 20.
Further up the topic I mentioned that Leylah's 1R loss looked very bad. JazzNu corrected me a bit, the next day Andreeva's win over BHM provided some data for that correction, today's win proved me totally wrong.
Not only she won, the score was convincing. Near-future top 20?
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ashkor87 JazzNU wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:05 pm
Petkovic said during the Karatsev vs. Van de Zandschulp, that "Van de Zandschulp just looks perpetually disappointed by life." Absolutely dying. Not sure if she'll stick around with the commentating, but she's been growing on me. I think who she partners with matters right now, but probably won't as much later on.
Petkovic was always one of the most thoughtful players around.. a bit too much into philosophy, perhaps but really insightful.. her remarks on Serena versus Osaka are very insightful too..
by ti-amie Sunday, April 30, 2023 Day 7
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(10) Karen Khachanov VS (20) Roberto Bautista Agut
Not Before 1:00 PM
(3) Jessica Pegula VS (29) Marie Bouzkova
Not Before 4:00 PM
(1) Iga Swiatek VS (28) Bernarda Pera
Followed By
Wheelchair Exhibition
Not Before 8:00 Pm
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS (26) Grigor Dimitrov
Followed By
(29) Alejandro Davidovich Fokina VS (6) Holger Rune
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Lesia Tsurenko VS (8) Daria Kasatkina
Followed By
(28) Yoshihito Nishioka VS (5) Andrey Rublev
Not Before 2:00 Pm
(Q) Hugo Grenier VS (13) Alexander Zverev
Not Before 6:00 PM
(11) Barbora Krejcikova VS Xiyu Wang
Not Before 8:00 PM
(22) Qinwen Zheng VS (16) Ekaterina Alexandrova
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(Q) Matteo Arnaldi VS Jaume Munar
Followed By
(12) Veronika Kudermetova VS (21) Anastasia Potapova
Followed By
(27) Petra Martic VS Anna Kalinskaya
Followed By
(12) Hubert Hurkacz VS (17) Borna Coric
Followed By
(LL) Daniel Altmaier VS (Q) Yannick Hanfmann
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
(18) Martina Trevisan VS Alycia Parks
Followed By
Nathaniel Lammons/Jackson Withrow VS Jamie Murray/Michael Venus
Followed By
Taylor Fritz/Frances Tiafoe VS (4) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer
Followed By
(6) Lloyd Glasspool/Harri Heliovaara VS Felix Auger-Aliassime/Denis Shapovalov
Followed By
Hugo Nys/Jan Zielinski Or Alexander Erler/Lucas Miedler VS (8) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Followed By
Ivan Dodig/Austin Krajicek Or Simone Bolelli/Fabrice Martin VS Matwe Middelkoop/Andreas Mies Or Maximo Gonzalez/Andres Molteni
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
(WC) Erika Andreeva/Mirra Andreeva VS (6) Gabriela Dabrowski/Luisa Stefani
Followed By
(8) Yifan Xu/Zhaoxuan Yang VS (WC) Paula Badosa/Bethanie Mattek-Sands
After Suitable Rest
TBD VS Monica Niculescu/Makoto Ninomiya
After Suitable Rest
(1) Coco Gauff/Jessica Pegula VS TBD
After Suitable Rest
Anna Kalinskaya/Caty McNally VS (OSE) Victoria Azarenka/Beatriz Haddad Maia
by ti-amie From yesterday
by ti-amie A little fun at the net
by ti-amie Thiem was up 3-1 in the third set TB. It's now 6-5 in favor of Stefanos who takes the TB 7-6(5) and the match. Thiem is looking disgusted with himself.
by ponchi101 He should be, but later tonight he should see that that was a good loss. He played toe to toe with a top 5 player. Let's hope it brings in better things.
by ti-amie Sakkari dropped the first set 3-6 but is up 5-3 in the second vs Masarova.
by ti-amie Sakkari won the second set and Masarova seems to have disappeared into the ether. The chair is asking where she is while Sakkari paces. She was gone for 6 minutes.
by ponchi101 "Game, set, match, Ms Sakkari, by default".
That should not be so hard.
by ashkor87 That point shown a bit earlier 'Oh Carlos' is incredible.. i really think Carlos Alcaraz is the best player I have ever seen - he seems like a blend of Federer and Nadal..he actually reminds me of Agassi a bit but of course has a much better serve and volleys much better than Agassi ever did..
by ashkor87 Sakkari vs Badosa...how do they compare? Badosa is in better form right now but ...I have always felt Sakkari is better defensively than Badosa but will that matter on this surface? Hard to tell ...if it gets close, Badosa is tougher mentally than Sakkari is..
Of course, in the larger scheme, it may not matter..it will still come down to Swiatek and Sabalenka, probably...
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:37 am
That point shown a bit earlier 'Oh Carlos' is incredible.. i really think Carlos Alcaraz is the best player I have ever seen - he seems like a blend of Federer and Nadal..he actually reminds me of Agassi a bit but of course has a much better serve and volleys much better than Agassi ever did..
To which I can only say.... curb your enthusiasm
I know, the guy can play at an incredible level. But "BEST player I have ever seen" is quite a statement, especially since you have obviously seen a lot of players.
Better than Roger at his peak? Better than Novak? I say that, if you only take the peak of a player's career, he is still below Roger's version between 2005-2007. Those three years in which he was basically invincible anywhere except when facing Rafa on clay.
I don't know if you saw the first set of the Ruusovuoru match. Carlitos was spraying balls all over. That point was amazing, indeed. But he played plenty that were less than sterling.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:52 am
Sakkari vs Badosa...how do they compare? Badosa is in better form right now but ...I have always felt Sakkari is better defensively than Badosa but will that matter on this surface? Hard to tell ...if it gets close, Badosa is tougher mentally than Sakkari is..
Of course, in the larger scheme, it may not matter..it will still come down to Swiatek and Sabalenka, probably...
Claiming that Badosa is tougher than Sakkari forgets Badosa's penchant for retirements. I will borrow from your "Tier" system and will say that they are both Tier 2 players, with Badosa having one important tournament that Sakkari lacks (that IW win) and Sakkari being a bit more consistent, with deeper results at slams.
Very similar. I included Sakakri in my TSiP team because of that consistency. But that match may go a long way, because I don't see either being able to hit through the other. Very long rallies, and most likely 3 sets.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:42 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:37 am
That point shown a bit earlier 'Oh Carlos' is incredible.. i really think Carlos Alcaraz is the best player I have ever seen - he seems like a blend of Federer and Nadal..he actually reminds me of Agassi a bit but of course has a much better serve and volleys much better than Agassi ever did..
To which I can only say.... curb your enthusiasm
I know, the guy can play at an incredible level. But "BEST player I have ever seen" is quite a statement, especially since you have obviously seen a lot of players.
Better than Roger at his peak? Better than Novak? I say that, if you only take the peak of a player's career, he is still below Roger's version between 2005-2007. Those three years in which he was basically invincible anywhere except when facing Rafa on clay.
I don't know if you saw the first set of the Ruusovuoru match. Carlitos was spraying balls all over. That point was amazing, indeed. But he played plenty that were less than sterling.
i dont get to see any matches here at this level, only Slams.. so yes, I am going by snippets..
by ti-amie If you haven't seen new look Borna Coric...
by ti-amie Wait for David Ferrer's reaction.
by ti-amie I'm watching Qinwen vs Alexandrova but these posts on Carlitos vs Grigor keep coming.
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JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 pm
If you haven't seen new look Borna Coric...
Like I said earlier in the tournament. I want a haircut stat. My cute Borna has been greatly diminished imo with this change.
by JazzNU Yup, 100% electronic line calling is going to be awesome. Not a damn thing has changed about that tech, this is going to be so problematic on clay when you can see the mark and the machine is trying to tell you, no no, the sky is green.
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ponchi101 JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:38 pm
Yup, 100% electronic line calling is going to be awesome. Not a damn thing has changed about that tech, this is going to be so problematic on clay when you can see the mark and the machine is trying to tell you, no no, the sky is green.
I had not thought of that. Yup...
by ti-amie
You can lead the horse to water Carlos...
by ti-amie Monday, May 01, 2023 Day 8
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(Q) Alexander Shevchenko VS (2) Daniil Medvedev
Not Before 1:00 PM
(WC) Mirra Andreeva VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
Not Before 4:00 PM
(26) Paula Badosa VS (9) Maria Sakkari
Not Before 8:00 Pm
(25) Sebastian Baez VS (4) Stefanos Tsitsipas
Followed By
(1) I. SWIATEK vs (16) E. ALEXANDROVA
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Mayar Sherif VS (24) Elise Mertens
Followed By
Pedro Cachin VS (9) Frances Tiafoe
Followed By
(Q) Roman Safiullin VS Bernabe Zapata Miralles
Followed By
(8) Taylor Fritz VS Cristian Garin
Not Before 6:00 PM
(3) J. PEGULA VS (18) Martina Trevisan
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
(14) Liudmila Samsonova VS (31) Irina-Camelia Begu
Followed By
(16) Alex de Minaur VS (Q) Aslan Karatsev
Followed By
(12) V. KUDERMETOVA VS (8) Daria Kasatkina
Followed By
(11) B. KREJCIKOVA vs (27) CRO P. MARTIC
Followed By
Zhizhen Zhang VS (11) Cameron Norrie
COURT 4 Starts At 11:00 Am
(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski VS (WC) Roberto Carballes Baena/Martin Landaluce
Followed By
Dusan Lajovic VS (LL) Jan-Lennard Struff
Followed By
Marcelo Melo/Alexander Zverev VS (7) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
COURT 5 Starts At 11:00 Am
Oksana Kalashnikova/Yana Sizikova VS Leylah Fernandez/Taylor Townsend
Followed By
Miyu Kato/Aldila Sutjiadi VS Su-Wei Hsieh/Barbora Strycova
Not Before 1:30 Pm
(5) Nikola Mektic/Mate Pavic VS Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev
by ti-amie
Today's ATP heavyweight bout. Bernardes has been trying to stop Rune from being dq'd throughout. I don't know if I agree with that.
by ponchi101 Foki takes him out, in what seems to have been a scorcher.
Hope they will at least show the highlights later tonight. They showed NOTHING during the weekend.
by ashkor87 My high opinion of Alexandrova is not a joke now, is it? I hope folks here are willing to acknowledge she is a good player!
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:47 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:52 am
Sakkari vs Badosa...how do they compare? Badosa is in better form right now but ...I have always felt Sakkari is better defensively than Badosa but will that matter on this surface? Hard to tell ...if it gets close, Badosa is tougher mentally than Sakkari is..
Of course, in the larger scheme, it may not matter..it will still come down to Swiatek and Sabalenka, probably...
Claiming that Badosa is tougher than Sakkari forgets Badosa's penchant for retirements. I will borrow from your "Tier" system and will say that they are both Tier 2 players, with Badosa having one important tournament that Sakkari lacks (that IW win) and Sakkari being a bit more consistent, with deeper results at slams.
Very similar. I included Sakakri in my TSiP team because of that consistency. But that match may go a long way, because I don't see either being able to hit through the other. Very long rallies, and most likely 3 sets.
Agree with you but would you not say retirement in a match is a sign of physical frailty, not mental? Sakkari has a tendency to blow leads just when she is about to win...Badosa doesn't do that...not that I am a big fan of Badosa's.
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JazzNU ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:55 pm
My high opinion of Alexandrova is not a joke now, is it? I hope folks here are willing to acknowledge she is a good player!
Did anyone say she wasn't a good player? Most of us don't consider her a contender, there's a big difference there.
Personally, you giving her individual odds almost every grand slam still isn't something I see as her being remotely worthy of.
by ti-amie So it seems that the electronic system at Madrid was malfunctioning and it was behind the anger of Qinwen and Holger, both of whom lost their matches. If the system can't tell on clay which mark is which how do you get rid of line judges for clay events? It's idiotic.
Also the reason there was a "rock paper scissors" game at the net the other day was because the electronic coin flip wasn't working.
by JazzNU Excellent win for Foki. He was so close in giving Alcaraz a run for his money in Barcelona, glad he was able to get it done against Rune after battling so hard and almost giving it away.
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JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:26 am
So it seems that the electronic system at Madrid was malfunctioning and it was behind the anger of Qinwen and Holger, both of whom lost their matches. If the system can't tell on clay which mark is which how do you get rid of line judges for clay events? It's idiotic.
Oh yeah, she was hot. Not as egregious as the one in the Foki vs. Rune match since that had the added element of Hawkeye weighing in (and let's be clear, the controversial call went Rune's way, the calls in Qinwen's matches went against her), but the calls did look questionable and she was mad enough that the visible mark had to have been showing the ball not touching the line. She spent an entire changeover telling the chair it was ridiculous and to check the mark, the chair agreed but couldn't change it according to the rules, just like the the Foki vs. Rune match.
Not saying the distraction didn't affect Qinwen, but her serve, or lack thereof, lost her the match, not the potentially botched calls.
If they are set on this electronic calling, and it seems as if it's a done deal, I can see this being a big enough issue where there are overrules allowed or challenges going the other way where the human chair umpire is allowed to overall the technology in clear cases. That also seems like it would create distrust in the system overall, but still, I'll be surprised if it's just this all or nothing where the tech is telling you something with the camera zooming in to tell you it's actually the opposite. Especially when the data tells them the error rate is just greater on clay than other surfaces and there's not a ton that can improve it right now.
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mmmm8 JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:36 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 pm
If you haven't seen new look Borna Coric...
Like I said earlier in the tournament. I want a haircut stat. My cute Borna has been greatly diminished imo with this change.
I actually prefer this to the buzz cut era
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ponchi101 JazzNU wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:24 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:55 pm
My high opinion of Alexandrova is not a joke now, is it? I hope folks here are willing to acknowledge she is a good player!
Did anyone say she wasn't a good player? Most of us don't consider her a contender, there's a big difference there.
Personally, you giving her individual odds almost every grand slam still isn't something I see as her being remotely worthy of.
Ashkor, it is what JazzNu says. NOBODY is saying she is a bad player; I mean, she is the 17th ranked player in the world! She is damn good. What we are saying is that, for example, when you say she is better than Pegula, we disagree. (Or I do).
And you have to admit you have your favorites: you also praise Samsonova frequently, and both are doing very well. But you will excuse me (I hope) if next time Alexandrova loses in a 1R I send you a wink. Because she can reach a 4R here in Madrid, and if she loses 1R in Rome, I will not be surprised.
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skatingfan ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:55 pm
My high opinion of Alexandrova is not a joke now, is it? I hope folks here are willing to acknowledge she is a good player!
How are we defining good? She's a top twenty player. She's consistent, but no results that really stand out other than a semifinal in Madrid last year, and quarterfinal in Miami this year. It certainly looks like she's reaching the peak of career so we'll see what she can do over the next year or so.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:42 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:37 am
That point shown a bit earlier 'Oh Carlos' is incredible.. i really think Carlos Alcaraz is the best player I have ever seen - he seems like a blend of Federer and Nadal..he actually reminds me of Agassi a bit but of course has a much better serve and volleys much better than Agassi ever did..
To which I can only say.... curb your enthusiasm
I know, the guy can play at an incredible level. But "BEST player I have ever seen" is quite a statement, especially since you have obviously seen a lot of players.
Better than Roger at his peak? Better than Novak? I say that, if you only take the peak of a player's career, he is still below Roger's version between 2005-2007. Those three years in which he was basically invincible anywhere except when facing Rafa on clay.
I don't know if you saw the first set of the Ruusovuoru match. Carlitos was spraying balls all over. That point was amazing, indeed. But he played plenty that were less than sterling.
well, unlike most people, I dont wait till someone wins 22 majors before I recognize his greatness.. make no mistake, Alcaraz IS great - ten years from now, we will be calling him the GOAT.. I go by the quality of someone's game, not how many titles he has won, or what his ranking is - also, I judge players (or anyone, including musicians) on their best day, not their average or worst .. everyone has bad days, the question is - how good are they at their best? Yes, it cant be a one-time thing, it has to be sustained over a period of time. Alcaraz has sustained this level of play for almost 2 years, it is time to call him great. and 'best' is a qualitative, personal judgement, which I am making. He is the best I have ever seen. Period.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 3:11 am
...
well, unlike most people, I dont wait till someone wins 22 majors before I recognize his greatness.. make no mistake, Alcaraz IS great - ten years from now, we will be calling him the GOAT..
I go by the quality of someone's game, not how many titles he has won, or what his ranking is - also, I judge players (or anyone, including musicians) on their best day, not their average or worst .. everyone has bad days, the question is - how good are they at their best? Yes, it cant be a one-time thing, it has to be sustained over a period of time. Alcaraz has sustained this level of play for almost 2 years, it is time to call him great. and 'best' is a qualitative, personal judgement, which I am making. He is the best I have ever seen. Period.
Ten years from now he will be the goat. That means he will have 20 slams (let's say that) at the age of 30. Seeing as careers are extending, he could finish with 25 slams.
Hope we will able to have that conversation then.
My bold part. If you judge people by the quality of his/her game, where do you rank players such as Laconte, Rios or Kyrgios? Amazing games, no results to back those up? Serious question, not teasing you.
by JazzNU Great win for Sakkari, I'm glad she seems to have moved fully past whatever illness had hampered her in recent weeks. And I hope Paula is encouraged by her level in the last two months, it's considerably better and she really just seems to need the luck of a good draw to break her way.
Rough loss for Kasatkina, but a good win for Kudermetova, who has also struggled a bit this season.
And just a fantastic win for Mayar Sherif. Thought she could do it and just so happy for her. First 1000 QF for her.
by Suliso Slightly surprised that Krejcikova lost to Martic today.
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ti-amie Suliso wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 6:51 pm
Slightly surprised that Krejcikova lost to Martic today.
I'm watching via the Tennis Channel app on my tablet and it's still 6-1 Martic in the tiebreak second set. Krejcikova was "cramping" though. I put it in quotes because her fake injuries are why I can never be a fan.
That said I'm more than a little surprised. What has Martic done lately?
by ponchi101 What has Martic done ever? I really like her, but her CV is lacking, to say the least.
I am with Suliso. That is an upset.
by ti-amie Whoa. Zhang Zhizheng def Cam Norrie in three sets 2-6, 7-6(2), 7-6(2)
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:59 pm
What has Martic done ever? I really like her, but her CV is lacking, to say the least.
I am with Suliso. That is an upset.
?!?!?!
French Open QF in 2019- including wins over mini-me version of Jabeur, Pliskova (second seed) and Kanepi. A total of six other Grand Slam singles 4R results- she's made the 4R in all of the other Slams. High ranking of 14. Heck, he's made the QF in doubles at the Aussie and Roland Garros.
Ms. Martic accepts your apologies, upon receipt.
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:57 am
JazzNU wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:24 am
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:55 pm
My high opinion of Alexandrova is not a joke now, is it? I hope folks here are willing to acknowledge she is a good player!
Did anyone say she wasn't a good player? Most of us don't consider her a contender, there's a big difference there.
Personally, you giving her individual odds almost every grand slam still isn't something I see as her being remotely worthy of.
Ashkor, it is what JazzNu says. NOBODY is saying she is a bad player; I mean, she is the 17th ranked player in the world! She is damn good. What we are saying is that, for example, when you say she is better than Pegula, we disagree. (Or I do).
And you have to admit you have your favorites: you also praise Samsonova frequently, and both are doing very well. But you will excuse me (I hope) if next time Alexandrova loses in a 1R I send you a wink. Because she can reach a 4R here in Madrid, and if she loses 1R in Rome, I will not be surprised.
....You, skatingfan and JazzNU are now officially members of My Troll Club. #StopMakingSense, #BetterThanAlexandrova
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nelslus mmmm8 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:56 am
JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:36 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 pm
If you haven't seen new look Borna Coric...
Like I said earlier in the tournament. I want a haircut stat. My cute Borna has been greatly diminished imo with this change.
I actually prefer this to the buzz cut era
Incorrect. Please apologize to JazzNU immediately.
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mmmm8 nelslus wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 9:50 pm
mmmm8 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 12:56 am
JazzNU wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:36 pm
Like I said earlier in the tournament. I want a haircut stat. My cute Borna has been greatly diminished imo with this change.
I actually prefer this to the buzz cut era
Incorrect. Please apologize to JazzNU immediately.
I apologize JazzNu has to live with such poor male hairstyle tastes. My condolences.
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nelslus ....AND, in case I am not being clear....HEY, I got nothing but love for Carlos- and I'll be thrilled if he wins double-digit singles Slam titles. But- Carlos "is the best I have ever seen. Period."?!?! THIS is just ChatGPT-level insanity, and deeply insulting to the legacies of Novak, Rafa, Roger, Borg, Laver, etc.
I mean, HEY- IMO, Liza Minnelli gave a tremendous performance in "Cabaret". SO- cool, she's the best that I've ever seen, and that has ever been. Because I said so. SORRY, Kate, Bette, Meryl, Ingrid, Joan, Liv, Greta, Vivien....
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ponchi101 nelslus wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 9:36 pm
ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:59 pm
What has Martic done ever? I really like her, but her CV is lacking, to say the least.
I am with Suliso. That is an upset.
?!?!?!
French Open QF in 2019- including wins over mini-me version of Jabeur, Pliskova (second seed) and Kanepi. A total of six other Grand Slam singles 4R results- she's made the 4R in all of the other Slams. High ranking of 14. Heck, he's made the QF in doubles at the Aussie and Roland Garros.
Ms. Martic accepts your apologies, upon receipt.
I'm going to have to work on some scale of achievements. Sure, she has made a lot of 4R's at Slams. But, to me, that is not like a lot.
Still, since I like her: my apologies, Petra. Still love you (and no, I refuse to plagiarize your gorgeous emoji
)
by ti-amie I thought Martic was on her way to be a force on the WTA tour. Her results of late though don't bear that out. This is the best result she's had in a long time.
by ti-amie Tuesday, May 02, 2023 Day 9
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
(10) Karen Khachanov VS (5) Andrey Rublev
Not Before 1:00 PM
Mayar Sherif VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
Not Before 4:00 Pm
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS (13) Alexander Zverev
Not Before 8:00 PM
(9) Maria Sakkari VS (31) Irina-Camelia Begu
Followed By
Bernabe Zapata Miralles VS (4) Stefanos Tsitsipas
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 11:00 Am
Jaume Munar VS (LL) Daniel Altmaier
Followed By
(Q) Aslan Karatsev VS (2) Daniil Medvedev
Followed By
(17) Borna Coric VS (29) Alejandro Davidovich Fokina
Followed By
(8) Taylor Fritz VS Zhizhen Zhang
Followed By
(LL) Jan-Lennard Struff VS Pedro Cachin
STADIUM 3 Starts At 11:00 Am
Monica Niculescu/Makoto Ninomiya VS Marta Kostyuk/Elena-Gabriela Ruse
Followed By
Simone Bolelli/Fabrice Martin VS (8) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Not Before 2:00 PM
(1) Coco Gauff/Jessica Pegula VS (6) Gabriela Dabrowski/Luisa Stefani
Followed By
Felix Auger-Aliassime/Denis Shapovalov VS (4) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer
by ti-amie I blame what's happening to Raducanu on the LTA. They were so starved for achievement by someone other than Murray they went a bit nuts with Raducanu. Are her parents at fault too? From what I've read her father has become a "tennis father" and misused a lot of coaches who were willing to help his daughter formulate a game for herself, deciding that instead of taking on a full time, expensive, coach they would pick and choose what they wanted from each one so now we have a player, a Slam winner, who is at best incoherent on court.
And yes I know Woz did the same thing but she started doing it later in her career.
It's just my opinion and if she wants to play tennis she has time to get serious about both her physical training and Tennis 101.
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nelslus Congrats on Iga's huge upset today vs. GOAT Alexandrova.
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ti-amie nelslus wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:51 pm
Congrats on Iga's huge upset today vs. GOAT Alexandrova.
Brat.
It was totally expected though.
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:49 pm
I blame what's happening to Raducanu on the LTA. They were so starved for achievement by someone other than Murray they went a bit nuts with Raducanu. Are her parents at fault too? From what I've read her father has become a "tennis father" and misused a lot of coaches who were willing to help his daughter formulate a game for herself, deciding that instead of taking on a full time, expensive, coach they would pick and choose what they wanted from each one so now we have a player, a Slam winner, who is at best incoherent on court.
And yes I know Woz did the same thing but she started doing it later in her career.
It's just my opinion and if she wants to play tennis she has time to get serious about both her physical training and Tennis 101.
Very informative, and thanks. I really didn't know much of anything about Emma's father. Interesting.
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JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 7:59 pm
What has Martic done ever? I really like her, but her CV is lacking, to say the least.
I am with Suliso. That is an upset.
It's undoubtedly an upset. But, at least for me, I am never really surprised if Martic beats anyone on clay. The days of my surprise at that ended in like 2018. She has wins over some of the better clay courters of the last 10 years, so pick against her on that surface at your own peril.
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JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:49 pm
I blame what's happening to Raducanu on the LTA. They were so starved for achievement by someone other than Murray they went a bit nuts with Raducanu.
They really, really did. And as the US Open winner, they've been happy to overpromote her like she's the second coming to add to what the LTA does. Like I said in the Tennis Off-Court thread, the most influential tennis orgs have been the ones driving this over and above everyone else.
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ti-amie JazzNU wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 12:06 am
ti-amie wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 11:49 pm
I blame what's happening to Raducanu on the LTA. They were so starved for achievement by someone other than Murray they went a bit nuts with Raducanu.
They really, really did. And as the US Open winner, they've been happy to overpromote her like she's the second coming to add to what the LTA does. Like I said in the Tennis Off-Court thread, the most influential tennis orgs have been the ones driving this over and above everyone else.
I didn't see your post before I made mine but I acknowledged it in that thread.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 4:02 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Mon May 01, 2023 3:11 am
...
well, unlike most people, I dont wait till someone wins 22 majors before I recognize his greatness.. make no mistake, Alcaraz IS great - ten years from now, we will be calling him the GOAT..
I go by the quality of someone's game, not how many titles he has won, or what his ranking is - also, I judge players (or anyone, including musicians) on their best day, not their average or worst .. everyone has bad days, the question is - how good are they at their best? Yes, it cant be a one-time thing, it has to be sustained over a period of time. Alcaraz has sustained this level of play for almost 2 years, it is time to call him great. and 'best' is a qualitative, personal judgement, which I am making. He is the best I have ever seen. Period.
Ten years from now he will be the goat. That means he will have 20 slams (let's say that) at the age of 30. Seeing as careers are extending, he could finish with 25 slams.
Hope we will able to have that conversation then.
My bold part. If you judge people by the quality of his/her game, where do you rank players such as Laconte, Rios or Kyrgios? Amazing games, no results to back those up? Serious question, not teasing you.
Leconte and Rios were great players, not just very good .candidates for best player never to win a major .kyrgios will soon join them!
by ashkor87 I was thinking Alcaraz reminds me most of Laver...blazing speed, topspin, complete game, great volley, good, not great serve...
by ashkor87 Nice to see Begu doing well..she really is very good, needs a bit of luck..Martic too...
by meganfernandez Finally seeing some good consistency on the WTA between Iga, Pegula and Sabalenka. What has happened to Garcia? Is she injured?
by ponchi101 I remember a few years ago Wertheim called Begu "the best player you have never heard about". She has been hovering around the 25's for a long time. Should be a tough out for Sakkari.
(I still say Sakkari should get through).
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ponchi101 meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:15 am
Finally seeing some good consistency on the WTA between Iga, Pegula and Sabalenka. What has happened to Garcia? Is she injured?
Remember that, if you take out last year, this is the quality of tennis that Garcia has produced for a decade. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm. She may be regressing to her level.
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JazzNU meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:15 am
Finally seeing some good consistency on the WTA between Iga, Pegula and Sabalenka. What has happened to Garcia? Is she injured?
No, but her coach dumped her right before the WTA Finals, it's great she managed to win that. It seems to have sent her off course a bit this season, but the coach and her re-united a few weeks ago, so she might be able to capture some of last year's magic again soon.
Last year's turn for her started at RG, she played doubles with Kiki and won and then went on her successful singles run the rest of the season.
The other thing is, hopefully she is dealing with it better now, but she very clearly said she was not expecting the attention she got from talking about her eating disorder in the beginning of this year.
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JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:17 am
meganfernandez wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:15 am
Finally seeing some good consistency on the WTA between Iga, Pegula and Sabalenka. What has happened to Garcia? Is she injured?
Remember that, if you take out last year, this is the quality of tennis that Garcia has produced for a decade. Last year was the anomaly, not the norm. She may be regressing to her level.
No, it's not. A decade? You do remember she was Top 10 before this year and last year, right?
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ponchi101 And she was around the 40's during a long span. She and Kiki looked like sure-fire Slam contenders, and then it did not come true.
Her ranking history is mostly in between the 40's and 20's.
by ashkor87 Zverev vs Alcaraz today! Feels like a finals. .good test to see where Zverev's game is..
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JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 2:46 am
And she was around the 40's during a long span. She and Kiki looked like sure-fire Slam contenders, and then it did not come true.
Her ranking history is mostly in between the 40's and 20's.
Yes I know her history, but you said she's looked like this for a decade. She was top 10 about 5 years ago. We all know she looked considerably better last season, but she had looked like a formidable player before that as well. And even in her down years, she had times where she seemed like she could get back especially. That's why people were confused and didn't totally lose hope with her, she'd convince you in those off years with brief flashes that she still had it.
I never thought Kiki looked like a sure-fire Slam contender unless you're talking about Doubles...
by Suliso This looks like yet another Swiatek - Sabalenka final. Likely Alcaraz will defend his title albeit there is some strong competition left.
by ashkor87 I do find it very odd that it is rare for the top 2 seeds to meet in the finals and even more rare for #1 to beat #2 in the finals.
.maybe rankings dont mean much after all!
by jazzyg Karatsev is back!
In his last tournament, he lost 6-2, 6-0 to van de Zandschulp, making him 15-36 in main draw ATP tour matches since going out in the third round of the Australian Open last year while making more than 100 unforced errors against Mannarino. It's been mystifying to me how a guy who made the Aussie Open semis in 2021 and then won three tournaments and reached a final of another in a 12-month span could return to being as bad as he was before his breakthrough. He was not just a one-hit wonder. Some really accomplished players fail to win three tournaments in their career--to wit, Sakkari has exactly one title to her name--but Karatsev appeared to be proving his white-hot streak was a fluke even thought I saw his tremendous upside with my own eyes in 2021.
Suddenly, in Madrid, Karatsev clobbered what has been an in-form Struff 6-4, 6-2 in qualifying, and Struff is still in the main draw as a lucky loser. Maybe Struff already knew he had a spot in the main draw because of a withdrawal and did not give 100 percent, but that was Karatsev's first impressive result in more than a year. He has backed it up by reaching the quarters, beating Medvedev comfortably in straight sets today while improving to 4-1 against him lifetime.
All I've seen of his entire run is the last three points of his win against clay-challenged Medvedev, so I don't know how he is playing, but it would be hilarious if Karatsev adds a 1000 tournament title to his haul. He did nothing his entire career until his run in the 2021 Aussie Open, which was the most impressive ball-striking I've ever seen from an unknown player, and he kept that form for the next few months before becoming erratic and then falling off a cliff and out of the top 100.
In the little I saw of him during his descent, his return of serve, which was awesome early in 2021, was awful. He tried to hit winners on every return and missed over and over on every decent first serve. He also sprayed balls all over the court when he was forced to move after hitting one rocket winner after the other on the run at the 2021 Aussie Open.
He gets the Fritz-Zhang winner next and if he wins that, a likely semifinal against Tsitspipas, although it could be Struff in a rematch of their qualifying match. Will he turn back into a pumpkin again or is this the start of another torrid streak?
by ashkor87 Saw Karataev live in Pune, he looked a notch above everyone else..didn't win the tournament, though! But he is certainly impressive, looks to have extra time to hit the ball : always a sign of class..
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:14 am
I do find it very odd that it is rare for the top 2 seeds to meet in the finals and even more rare for #1 to beat #2 in the finals.
.maybe rankings dont mean much after all!
You do understand that you are selectively picking data, right?
It is akin to when one player that you like wins, and you bring it up as prove of their quality. But when they lose, we disregard that specific match. It is a bit more complex than that.
by JazzNU That was a ton of fun. They both had their chances, they both deserved to win, but I felt like Zhang was really the aggressor towards the end. Fritz shouldn't walk away from this with his head down, but he'll likely be upset that he didn't close it out in 2, he had the initial advantage in that tiebreak and it was seeming like it was a done deal at that point.
by ponchi101 Of course, ESPN had to cut to Spanish football halfway through the 3rd set so I could not see the end of the match.
Zhang can play. The FH is solid, the movement too. He has power and he has size. A possible member of whichever triumvirate ends up dominating the sport? (in a couple of years, I mean).
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ti-amie ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 8:17 pm
Of course, ESPN had to cut to Spanish football halfway through the 3rd set so I could not see the end of the match.
Zhang can play. The FH is solid, the movement too. He has power and he has size. A possible member of whichever triumvirate ends up dominating the sport? (in a couple of years, I mean).
The potential is definitely there with Zhang. It looked like Fritz had closed it out at one point in the third set TB but next thing you knew Fritz was walking off court as the loser.
by ti-amie Wednesday, May 03, 2023 Day 10
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 1:00 Pm
(3) Jessica Pegula VS (12) Veronika Kudermetova
Not Before 4:00 Pm
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS (10) Karen Khachanov
Not Before 8:00 PM
(1) Iga Swiatek VS (27) Petra Martic
Not Before 9:30 Pm
(LL) Daniel Altmaier VS (17) Borna Coric
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 1:00 Pm
(1) Wesley Koolhof/Neal Skupski VS (7) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden
Followed By
(WC) Paula Badosa/Bethanie Mattek-Sands VS (OSE) Victoria Azarenka/Beatriz Haddad Maia
Followed By
Su-Wei Hsieh/Barbora Strycova VS Leylah Fernandez/Taylor Townsend
Followed By / After Suitable Rest
Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev VS Jamie Murray/Michael Venus
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 6:23 pm
ashkor87 wrote: ↑Tue May 02, 2023 11:14 am
I do find it very odd that it is rare for the top 2 seeds to meet in the finals and even more rare for #1 to beat #2 in the finals.
.maybe rankings dont mean much after all!
You do understand that you are selectively picking data, right?
It is akin to when one player that you like wins, and you bring it up as prove of their quality. But when they lose, we disregard that specific match. It is a bit more complex than that.
But just prima facie, is it not surprising,,?
by ponchi101 Ah, that is a different matter indeed. We would have to look at the data and see indeed if the #1/#2 matchups have a certain skew. For example, if they are split 55-45%, that would still be statistically possible (meaning, it would not imply some reason why). We would need to look at, for example, how many of those matchups were Roger/Rafa (we know Rafa has the H2H), how many were Chrissie/Martina (almost split down the middle), and when were all those meetings indeed between #1/#2 rankings.
And if indeed, let's say that the #2 ranked player had won a statistically more significant number of times, we would need to see if there would be an underlying reason.
Right now, Iga/Aryna are split 5/2. But had Aryna won in Stuttgart, it would have been 4/3, so we can see how the law of small samples (which I just made up, as there is no such thing in stats other than "don't make conclusions from small samples") can greatly affect such matchups.
by Owendonovan I'm happy to see Borna string a few quality matches over ranked players for a change.
by ashkor87 Pegula vs Kudermetova..the better movers have been doing well here.. kudermetova is a C, Pegula an A in this dimension..
by ashkor87 Well, that didn't happen...K's power was too much for Jpeg
by ponchi101 One of those strange matches in which the loser won more games and more points.
Only in tennis.
by ti-amie Meanwhile Iga took 27m to bagel Petra Martic in the first set. Martic has won three games in the second set so Iga is serving for it at 5-3, 40-15.
This is why I for one was surprised by Martic's run here. She's been playing the way she played today for awhile now and was never really in this match. I wish she'd put up more of a fight instead of constantly looking lost out there.
by Suliso That was easier than I expected. Kudermetova is next (h2h 3-0, all in straight).
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JazzNU ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 7:20 pm
Meanwhile Iga took 27m to bagel Petra Martic in the first set. Martic has won three games in the second set so Iga is serving for it at 5-3, 40-15.
This is why I for one was surprised by Martic's run here. She's been playing the way she played today for awhile now and was never really in this match. I wish she'd put up more of a fight instead of constantly looking lost out there.
I mean, Iga has made much more accomplished and higher ranked players than Martic look pedestrian, so I wouldn't use her as a measuring stick for how Martic looks personally, especially on clay. There have been a more than a few great players, including top 10 players who have won as few games against Iga this year and last and it's not been an indictment on them for most, don't see why it should be on Martic.
by ti-amie Thursday, May 04, 2023 Day 11
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 1:00 Pm
QF
Zhizhen Zhang VS (Q) Aslan Karatsev
Not Before 4:00 PM
(9) Maria Sakkari VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
Not Before 8:00 Pm
QF
(LL) Jan-Lennard Struff VS (4) Stefanos Tsitsipas
Not Before 9:00 PM
(1) Iga Swiatek VS (12) Veronika Kudermetova
ARANTXA SANCHEZ STADIUM Starts At 3:00 Pm / TBA
SF
(7) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden VS (8) Santiago Gonzalez/Edouard Roger-Vasselin
Not Before 5:00 Pm / TBA
SF
(4) Marcelo Arevalo/Jean-Julien Rojer VS Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev Or Jamie Murray/Michael Venus
by ponchi101 I think Iga played her "bad match of the clay season" against Alexandrova, and now she can simply run the table until RG.
They did not show this match because they had to show 4 reruns of football matches played yesterday in Europe (I kid you now) so I can't tell about quality of play. I will go by your assessments.
by ti-amie Coric is through 3 & 3 and will play someone name Carlos Alcaraz next.
by ponchi101 Still, a good showing. SF's at a MS1000 is a good step for Borna. At 26 maybe it is a bit too late for him, but one good push may bring in a couple of good results.
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Owendonovan ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:45 pm
Coric is through 3 & 3 and will play someone name Carlos Alcaraz next.
I don't think they've played each other yet, could be interesting......
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ti-amie Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 11:54 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 9:45 pm
Coric is through 3 & 3 and will play someone name Carlos Alcaraz next.
I don't think they've played each other yet, could be interesting......
If Coric is playing injury free you're absolutely correct. Unless Carlitos does what Iga did to Petra Martic and just overwhelm him.
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JazzNU ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 10:03 pm
Still, a good showing. SF's at a MS1000 is a good step for Borna. At 26 maybe it is a bit too late for him, but one good push may bring in a couple of good results.
Assuming "a bit too late" refers to a Grand Slam, I'd say not necessarily too late. It doesn't happen much in the age of the dominant Big 4 (in this respect Andy deserves mention, his consistency is impressive and he has gotten to a high number of SFs and later at majors and it gets ignored because of the era), but there used to a winner that would slip in now and then that was less expected. Feel like Cincy showed it's not out of the question it can be him. He got thru a very difficult draw to hoist the trophy, so I wouldn't rule him out right now.
Highly unlikely for sure, but in a Thomas Johansson won a Grand Slam kind of way, I wouldn't rule it out. If the Cincy form were to become more consistent for Borna, which seems very dependent on his remaining healthy, I would remove most of the qualifiers and just say, he's got a shot, especially with his record against some of the would be top contenders like Tsitsipas, Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem, and Auger-Aliassime (I'm assuming Sascha and Dominic return to previous form). I don't believe he's played any of the younger contenders often enough to know how he might fare regularly against them.
by ti-amie I'm so glad there are some Borna Coric stans on this site. If not for injuries...
by ponchi101 Always liked him. But, hard to be a fan when you are away from the tour so often.
As JazzNu points out, if Johansson took an Aussie, we may be due for another surprise slam winner. If it is him, no qualms here.
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skatingfan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 1:35 am
Always liked him. But, hard to be a fan when you are away from the tour so often.
As JazzNu points out, if Johansson took an Aussie, we may be due for another surprise slam winner. If it is him, no qualms here.
I guess we'll see. I was sure we'd see a period of open majors when the big 4 were finished, or mostly finished but now it looks like we could just transition to the Carlos Alcarez era - at least on hard, and clay - maybe Wimbledon will be the wildly unpredictable slam for a while.
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ashkor87 ponchi101 wrote: ↑Wed May 03, 2023 8:02 pm
I think Iga played her "bad match of the clay season" against Alexandrova, and now she can simply run the table until RG.
They did not show this match because they had to show 4 reruns of football matches played yesterday in Europe (I kid you now) so I can't tell about quality of play. I will go by your assessments.
Why not give Alexandrova some credit?!
Kudermetova will play a similar game, may take set, though her movement is not as good ..depth and pace, power, does trouble Swiatek in fastish conditions...though I dont expect much here.
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ponchi101 ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 2:54 am
...
Why not give Alexandrova some credit?!
Kudermetova will play a similar game, may take set, though her movement is not as good ..depth and pace, power, does trouble Swiatek in fastish conditions...though I dont expect much here.
Because Alexandrova played an even worse match. If there was one day in which Alexandrova could and should have beaten Iga was that match. It was a very poorly played match from both players. UE's galore.
by jazzyg Karatsev beat Zhang comfortably to reach the semis.
Zhang did not play well, and Karatsev still has issues returning serve, but he hits the cleanest ball of anyone on tour in my opinion. I like his chances against Tsitsipas if they play in the semifinals, although Tsitipas should win if he has a good serving day. I love his chances against Struff seeing as how he already beat him 4 and 2 in this tournament. I always notice when a qualifier faces a lucky loser he beat later in the tournament, but I cannot imagine it has ever happened as a semifinal, and it definitely has not happened this deep in a 1000 event before.
by skatingfan Karatsev is playing one of his few patches of winning consecutive matches this week, and he will probably go back to losing first round for several months next week. His tournament record is really interesting because he wins titles, and then loses a half dozen first round matches.
by ti-amie Friday, May 05, 2023 Day 12
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 1:00 Pm
(1) Coco Gauff/Jessica Pegula VS Marta Kostyuk/Elena-Gabriela Ruse
Not Before 4:00 Pm
SF
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS (17) Borna Coric
Not Before 8:00 Pm
SF
Jan-Lennard Struff Or Stefanos Tsitsipas VS (Q) Aslan Karatsev
Not Before 9:00 PM
(OSE) Victoria Azarenka/Beatriz Haddad Maia VS Leylah Fernandez/Taylor Townsend
by ti-amie I expected Zhang to lose today. He played and won three back to back matches that went three sets and involved multiple tie breaks.
by ti-amie Struff 7-6(5) first set over Stefanos. It seems his coach is doing a Papa Tsitsipas routine today.
by ti-amie Stefanos 7-5 second set. Struff took the potty break.
by jazzyg I really like Karatsev's game when he is on, but there's no way he would have beaten Struff 6-4, 6-2 in the qualifying if Struff had not known he was already guaranteed a spot in the main draw as the No. 1 seed in qualifying. I don't know that for a fact, but his level has been phenomenal every time I have seen him in this tournament. He just played an outstanding third set against Tsitsipas.
by ti-amie Did anyone else note the mass exodus from the stands after Struff/Tsitsipas ended?
What do people think about Feli in glasses?
by ponchi101 The exodus started for me when I came back home and ESPN decided that it was better to show football matches than fulfill their statement of showing the night session.
There is a limit to how late a match can start for people to stay for it. Even for a famously nocturnal city like Madrid.
So for the semis we have the #1 seed, the #17 seed, a Q and a LL. Whole bunch of upsets, indeed.
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nelslus jazzyg wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 3:39 pmKaratsev beat Zhang comfortably to reach the semis. Zhang did not play well, and Karatsev still has issues returning serve, but he hits the cleanest ball of anyone on tour in my opinion. I like his chances against Tsitsipas if they play in the semifinals, although Tsitipas should win if he has a good serving day.
AHHHH, succubus Suliso- you have clearly lured Yet Another into your Lair. HAVE you no shame?!?!
(**Granted, I may have edited jazzyg's initial post just a tad. To Honor the Powers of Suliso Yet Again.
)
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nelslus ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 8:53 pm
Did anyone else note the mass exodus from the stands after Struff/Tsitsipas ended?
LOL, I mass exited after this match.
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ti-amie nelslus wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 9:52 pm
ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu May 04, 2023 8:53 pm
Did anyone else note the mass exodus from the stands after Struff/Tsitsipas ended?
LOL, I mass exited after this match.
Iga is doing Iga things. Kudermetova and her husband are both frustrated. Tl;dr you're not missing anything. Oh, Kudermetova did win a game to open the second set.
by ti-amie A wry smile from Kudermetova to her coach/husband just about says it all.
by Owendonovan I'm really looking forward to being at work tomorrow with absolutely no chance of even glancing at a score until 11:30. I really like the energy both Borna and Carlito bring to their matches. No one will ever pass Chrissy's 125 matches on clay, but Iga's the best we've seen on clay since Henin.
by ponchi101 Carlitos is entering the region of "inevitable".
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nelslus ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri May 05, 2023 3:45 pm
Carlitos is entering the region of "inevitable".
DUDE. Let go of your Top 3 GOAT PTSD Years already. Take a deep breath. SHEEEESH.
I mean, LOL, Carlitos has won one Slam title so far!! He could end up having a great career. But, truly, we have no idea. He's already dealt with a serious injury issue. He has a lot that he still can, and should improve- most definitely including his serve. I do not see him dominating the way the top 3 did. Let's just enjoy this kid doing his best. Anything can happen.
by ponchi101 And one thing does not exclude the other. You are old enough to remember McEnroe in 1984. That year, he was "inevitable". You remember his record.
Borna played an excellent match today; the first set was very high quality, from both. Yet, you (of maybe it was just I) had that feeling that Borna would not win. As well as he was playing, he simply would not.
I am willing to give Alcaraz all the time he wants and needs. Will he reach GOAT status? Who knows. But, right now, let me know how much money you are willing to put on Struff on Sunday.
That is all I am saying.
by ti-amie Saturday, May 06, 2023 Day 13
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 3:30 Pm
F
(7) Rohan Bopanna/Matthew Ebden VS Karen Khachanov/Andrey Rublev
Not Before 6:30 Pm
(1) Iga Swiatek VS (2) Aryna Sabalenka
by ponchi101 Madrid-Rome is not even 1 hour of flight away, and certainly the three of them can afford a private jet. Stay in Madrid and practice with them, which will be better than practicing with Gils in Rome.
by Owendonovan Only Norrie and Sinner have beaten Carlito this year. Maybe Saint Holger or Djokovic can make a run at him as they haven't met this year yet.
by mick1303 Not a whole lot of players won TMS both in singles and in doubles. Since 1990 (the emergence of Masters Series) there were 22 of them. After Rublev-Khachanov win it is 24.
by Suliso That was outstanding from Sabalenka, albeit she should have won in straight. She's now in a pole position for #1 ranking, possibly as soon as after RG.
by ti-amie Sunday, May 07, 2023 Day 14
MANOLO SANTANA STADIUM Starts At 3:30 Pm
(1) Coco Gauff/Jessica Pegula VS (OSE) Victoria Azarenka/Beatriz Haddad Maia
Not Before 6:30 Pm
F
(1) Carlos Alcaraz VS (LL) Jan-Lennard Struff
by ti-amie That was a match the WTA needed. If you didn't have a chance to watch it try to find a replay. It looked as if Sabalenka was going to win in straight sets but Iga got a crucial game to level the second set at 3 all. Aryna wobbled for just a minute but it was enough for Iga to steal the second set.
In the third set Sabalenka went back to what she was doing before mid second set - keeping Iga off balance, using the shot clock to stop huge momentum swings to Iga, and in the end it was Iga who was being pulled off court and unable to handle the shots Aryna was sending her way. It was a great match, worthy of a Final, and maybe, just maybe, the WTA has the rivalry it needs.
by jazzyg Swiatek is still the favorite at Roland Garros, but I got the sense at the Australian Open when Sabalenka maintained her composure to close out Rybakina in three sets that she could win the Grand Slam this year. I don't use that term lightly. She has the game to do it, and if she serves well and keeps her nerve, she will be incredibly difficult to beat for anyone on any surface except for Swiatek if they meet in the final at Roland Garros.
Obviously the odds are long for anyone to do it, but I believe she clearly has the best chance of anyone since Serena.
by jazzyg On the Alcaraz topic, Cliff Drysdale predicted he would win 20-plus slams during an ESPN roundtable at Wimbledon last year before he had won any slams. I tend to agree with him. That's asking a ton, but never mind his incredible game. He has that innate quality of playing his best when it matters most time and time again, and that ability does not go away over time.
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This point had me on my feet cheering at home.
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mick1303 jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:44 pm
Swiatek is still the favorite at Roland Garros, but I got the sense at the Australian Open when Sabalenka maintained her composure to close out Rybakina in three sets that she could win the Grand Slam this year. I don't use that term lightly. She has the game to do it, and if she serves well and keeps her nerve, she will be incredibly difficult to beat for anyone on any surface except for Swiatek if they meet in the final at Roland Garros.
Obviously the odds are long for anyone to do it, but I believe she clearly has the best chance of anyone since Serena.
Well, being that she is the one who won the slam this year, nobody else has a chance for a Grand Slam this year. So she clearly has the best chance - hard to argue ))
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ti-amie jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:44 pm
Swiatek is still the favorite at Roland Garros, but I got the sense at the Australian Open when Sabalenka maintained her composure to close out Rybakina in three sets that she could win the Grand Slam this year. I don't use that term lightly. She has the game to do it, and if she serves well and keeps her nerve, she will be incredibly difficult to beat for anyone on any surface except for Swiatek if they meet in the final at Roland Garros.
Obviously the odds are long for anyone to do it, but I believe she clearly has the best chance of anyone since Serena.
Apparently Iga let it be known during her trophy speech that she didn't like playing at 1a.
I think coaching won that match for Aryna. She could've done her usual and lost focus at a few key points during the match but she did it only once and that was in the second set when Swiatek leveled the set at 3 all. Instead she dragged herself right back to the game plan she and her coach worked out and when a crucial point came at 3 all in the third she held and that was when Iga blinked.
It's very rare to say a WTA match was great. If you're a tennis head you will appreciate this one.
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Swiatek v Sabalenka
2021 WTA Finals RR Sabalenka 26 62 75
2022 Doha QF Swiatek 62 63
2022 Stuttgart F Swiatek 62 62
2022 Rome SF Swiatek 62 61
2022 US Open SF Swiatek 36 61 64
2022 WTA Finals SF Sabalenka 62 26 61
2023 Stuttgart F Swiatek 63 64
2023 Madrid F Sabalenka 63 36 63
by ponchi101 The score does not tell about the quality of the match. Some truly great points, and both kept their level, with the small dips which led to the result.
But let's remember that Madrid is seldom a good indicator for RG. I agree with the above: Iga is still the leading contender for RG. Rome will let us know better.
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jazzyg mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:58 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:44 pm
Swiatek is still the favorite at Roland Garros, but I got the sense at the Australian Open when Sabalenka maintained her composure to close out Rybakina in three sets that she could win the Grand Slam this year. I don't use that term lightly. She has the game to do it, and if she serves well and keeps her nerve, she will be incredibly difficult to beat for anyone on any surface except for Swiatek if they meet in the final at Roland Garros.
Obviously the odds are long for anyone to do it, but I believe she clearly has the best chance of anyone since Serena.
Well, being that she is the one who won the slam this year, nobody else has a chance for a Grand Slam this year. So she clearly has the best chance - hard to argue ))
Do you really not get the gist of what i was posting? I'm saying Sabalenka is the only player with a chance to win the Grand Slam in any year since Serena came close and has the goods to do it. That's been the case for what, five players in my lifetime--Navratilova, Graf, Hingis (because of the lack of competition when she hit the top), Serena and now Sabalenka in my estimation. Graf succeeded. The others won three of the four. I think Sabalenka's game is on their level. We will find out if she can stay in the same good headspace she is in right now.
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mick1303 jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:05 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:58 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:44 pm
Swiatek is still the favorite at Roland Garros, but I got the sense at the Australian Open when Sabalenka maintained her composure to close out Rybakina in three sets that she could win the Grand Slam this year. I don't use that term lightly. She has the game to do it, and if she serves well and keeps her nerve, she will be incredibly difficult to beat for anyone on any surface except for Swiatek if they meet in the final at Roland Garros.
Obviously the odds are long for anyone to do it, but I believe she clearly has the best chance of anyone since Serena.
Well, being that she is the one who won the slam this year, nobody else has a chance for a Grand Slam this year. So she clearly has the best chance - hard to argue ))
Do you really not get the gist of what i was posting? I'm saying Sabalenka is the only player with a chance to win the Grand Slam in any year since Serena came close and has the goods to do it. That's been the case for what, five players in my lifetime--Navratilova, Graf, Hingis (because of the lack of competition when she hit the top), Serena and now Sabalenka in my estimation. Graf succeeded. The others won three of the four. I think Sabalenka's game is on their level. We will find out if she can stay in the same good headspace she is in right now.
This is what you wanted to say maybe. But you said "this year".
In all seriousness - I don't feel that Sabalenka is at this level of domination. She is good, but not THAT good. On a given day she is vulnerable to more than one player: Swiatek, Rybakina, Kreichikova. If she wins one more slam this year - it will be a great year for her.
by ti-amie TBH I don't think any of the top WTA players have a GS in them. I'm including Sabalenka, Swiatek, Rybakina and Krejcikova in that mix. All of them need the draw to break for them because any rando can take them out on a given day due to lapses of focus/concentration/conditioning.
Sabalenka played very well today but she had no pressure on her because no one expected her to win.
Just to be clear I mean winning all four majors in a calendar year.
by ponchi101 Both finals delivered. The women's was a fine match, the men's too.
Some of Struff's volleys were downright Edberg-esque.
At 32, doubtful to see Struff making any inroads in the winners' circles. But he may be someone to avoid at RG, this year.
by ti-amie Struff made Carlitos very uncomfortable out there and for most of the second set he was reacting to what Struff was doing. In the third set you could see Carlitos calm himself down and begin to impose his will. It helped that Struff had no legs by that point. Still it was a very good match and it wasn't until Carlitos went up 4-1 in the third that it was safe to think that he'd win.
I agree about Struff. He's in Qualies in Rome and I'm sure a lot of players are hoping he's tired and crashes out early.
Two finals worthy of being finals. What is the tennis world coming to?
by ponchi101 Four players that ranked high in singles. Let's hope it becomes a regular occurrence.
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Owendonovan In the spirit of trophy moments, this made me chuckle. I'd be happy with a food processor, not the 0% crap.
Spain women's race apologizes for food processor, nonfat gifts.
MADRID -- The organizers of a women's running race in Spain apologized Monday after the winner was offered a food processor to take home, sparking accusations of sexism.
The 7-kilometer Carrera de la Mujer women's race issued a statement on Twitter saying it hadn't considered the kitchen appliance -- donated by a sponsor -- would have sexist implications.
"We apologize but we consider this a product with no sexist character and ideal for any athlete who wants to improve their nutritional habits," the statement said. "We regret if any woman felt offended."
The food processor controversy went largely unnoticed until Ángela Rodríguez Pam, Spain's secretary of state for equality, tweeted that the winner had received a food processor and others were given 0% fat products.
"If you win: housewife and if not at least you'll lose weight," Rodríguez Pam tweeted.
https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/i ... nfat-gifts
by ponchi101 A kitchen appliance company gave a kitchen appliance as a prize.
Truly odd.
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JazzNU Owendonovan wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 2:47 am
In the spirit of trophy moments, this made me chuckle. I'd be happy with a food processor, not the 0% crap.
Spain women's race apologizes for food processor, nonfat gifts.
On Mother's Day in Spain I assume, or at the very least Mother's Day weekend.
by ponchi101 The tournament has apologized for not letting the players in the women's doubles talk to the crowd after the final.
by patrick Too little to late or better late than never depending on the view.
However, Lopez knows the culture better than anyone in management in my opinion
by ponchi101 For what it's worth, the apology came from the tournament CEO.
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Owendonovan ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu May 11, 2023 3:23 pm
The tournament has apologized for not letting the players in the women's doubles talk to the crowd after the final.
Which makes him look even worse.
by ponchi101 He may be gone. There is an investigation pending and if it comes out that somebody gave the instruction, somebody's head will roll. And it will certainly not be any of the top honchos.
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jazzyg mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:22 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:05 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 7:58 pm
Well, being that she is the one who won the slam this year, nobody else has a chance for a Grand Slam this year. So she clearly has the best chance - hard to argue ))
Do you really not get the gist of what i was posting? I'm saying Sabalenka is the only player with a chance to win the Grand Slam in any year since Serena came close and has the goods to do it. That's been the case for what, five players in my lifetime--Navratilova, Graf, Hingis (because of the lack of competition when she hit the top), Serena and now Sabalenka in my estimation. Graf succeeded. The others won three of the four. I think Sabalenka's game is on their level. We will find out if she can stay in the same good headspace she is in right now.
This is what you wanted to say maybe. But you said "this year".
In all seriousness - I don't feel that Sabalenka is at this level of domination. She is good, but not THAT good. On a given day she is vulnerable to more than one player: Swiatek, Rybakina, Kreichikova. If she wins one more slam this year - it will be a great year for her.
Yes, but why would anyone post that the person who had won the first slam was the only one who could win the slam that year when by definition that's the case? It's pretty clear I was referring to winning a slam in general, but common sense gets checked out the door too often when others are responding to posts.
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mick1303 jazzyg wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 4:58 pm
mick1303 wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:22 pm
jazzyg wrote: ↑Sat May 06, 2023 9:05 pm
Do you really not get the gist of what i was posting? I'm saying Sabalenka is the only player with a chance to win the Grand Slam in any year since Serena came close and has the goods to do it. That's been the case for what, five players in my lifetime--Navratilova, Graf, Hingis (because of the lack of competition when she hit the top), Serena and now Sabalenka in my estimation. Graf succeeded. The others won three of the four. I think Sabalenka's game is on their level. We will find out if she can stay in the same good headspace she is in right now.
This is what you wanted to say maybe. But you said "this year".
In all seriousness - I don't feel that Sabalenka is at this level of domination. She is good, but not THAT good. On a given day she is vulnerable to more than one player: Swiatek, Rybakina, Kreichikova. If she wins one more slam this year - it will be a great year for her.
Yes, but why would anyone post that the person who had won the first slam was the only one who could win the slam that year when by definition that's the case? It's pretty clear I was referring to winning a slam in general, but common sense gets checked out the door too often when others are responding to posts.
You're asking me why did you wrote what you wrote?
You'd be surprised how often people write incoherent things that are wrong "by definition".
It's good that we finally realized what you MEANT to say.
