Talk About Tennis 2.0

They should have played a1 set winner- take -all semi, no human body can take this kind of workout.

Wait. It is Rybakina that is complaining. Sure, her match on FRIDAY ended almost at 3:00 am. But she did not play yesterday, and a score of 1-6, 6-1, 6-2 does not sound like too much today.
If Samsonova were to say that she was tired for the final, that would be a different issue.

Finally Pegula wins something important. Of course scheduling helped her in the final, but had some great wins before.

Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:14 am Finally Pegula wins something important. Of course scheduling helped her in the final, but had some great wins before.

Of her other two tournaments, one was Guadalajara, which is also a 1000.
But sure, winning Canada is an important title. The third oldest tournament in the world (if you count these two tournaments as descendants of the Canadian Open).

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 3:42 pm

Suliso wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:14 am Finally Pegula wins something important. Of course scheduling helped her in the final, but had some great wins before.

Of her other two tournaments, one was Guadalajara, which is also a 1000.
But sure, winning Canada is an important title. The third oldest tournament in the world (if you count these two tournaments as descendants of the Canadian Open).

Beating #1 to win the title is also a differentiator from Guadalajara. It has been weird that she had only 2 titles and was #3 in the world. Even 3 titles isn't very many, but consistency counts, too.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:11 am Wait. It is Rybakina that is complaining. Sure, her match on FRIDAY ended almost at 3:00 am. But she did not play yesterday, and a score of 1-6, 6-1, 6-2 does not sound like too much today.
If Samsonova were to say that she was tired for the final, that would be a different issue.

She actually said the 3 am finish (got to bed at 5, slept 5 hours) will affect her for a couple weeks. It can definitely carry over a day or so for these regimented athletes. She had to be ready to play Saturday, didn't get to sleep all day.

If you're an elite athlete, it does not take you a couple weeks to get over a late night.
I'm sure Kyrgios has had longer and much harder nights and showed and won the next day.

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:55 pm If you're an elite athlete, it does not take you a couple weeks to get over a late night.
I'm sure Kyrgios has had longer and much harder nights and showed and won the next day.

Vitas Gerulaitis.
Roy Emerson.

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:55 pm If you're an elite athlete, it does not take you a couple weeks to get over a late night.
I'm sure Kyrgios has had longer and much harder nights and showed and won the next day.

Especially if you are only 24

JTContinental wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:29 pm

Owendonovan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:55 pm If you're an elite athlete, it does not take you a couple weeks to get over a late night.
I'm sure Kyrgios has had longer and much harder nights and showed and won the next day.

Especially if you are only 24

I could see it, actually. And maybe she was referring to the injury she evidently picked up. But we are underestimating the value of sleep for peak conditioning, and proper recovery, and adherence to routines. Can you bounce right back to your top level, which you need to be competitive? Maybe not. I'm taking her word for it.

Doesn't mean it can never happen, but her point is the damage has a longer tail than you'd think. She plays a long match Friday, goes to bed exhausted at 5 am, gets up at 10 am (you might think you know what that feels like, but you have never played a professional match in the middle of the night), spends all day on site being prepared to play and managing that routine through the stress of the uncertainty, and is surely sore from the day before... then play a three-setter the next day. She might struggle to have a good practice session the next time out. Snowball effect.