Talk About Tennis 2.0

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/thr ... 69789.html

As Samuelson said of George Bush Sr. 'If he plays tennis he can't be all bad'..

Suliso wrote: ↑Sun Aug 20, 2023 6:34 pm By the way his focus on WOKE has been a big mistake. Your average conservative rural voter understans guns, abortion and maybe feminism, but hardly anyone could explain what really woke is.

I actually agree with this point to a fairly large degree. That said, people, especially conservative folks who only absorb information from YouTube quacks, Candace Owens, and conservative media, don't need to know what something is to rail on it. They just know they've been told woke is really, really bad and a threat to their way of life. And that's enough.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kareem-ab ... ref=scroll

Loved this article by the great player (from UCLA, please note!)

My prediction: Trump will win the Republican nomination, then go to jail..the recriminations will destroy the Republican party. With the GOP gone, Democrats will see no reason to unite, they will also split- with a new liberal party led by AOC, and a combination of RINOs and DINOs forming a centrist party. The 2 party system will be gone, replaced by a 3-party system. The consequences of Trump will be far-reaching indeed.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:30 am My prediction: Trump will win the Republican nomination, then go to jail..the recriminations will destroy the Republican party. With the GOP gone, Democrats will see no reason to unite, they will also split- with a new liberal party led by AOC, and a combination of RINOs and DINOs forming a centrist party. The 2 party system will be gone, replaced by a 3-party system. The consequences of Trump will be far-reaching indeed.

We can only hope.

Too far fetched a prediction. There is ZERO chance that the GOP will be destroyed. They do represent a considerable portion of the USA population, as there are people that will never, never, under any circumstance, will vote Democrat. And there are no other "conservative" options.
So, no way the USA will have a 3 party system any time soon. It takes too much money to start anything like that.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 3:59 pm Too far fetched a prediction. There is ZERO chance that the GOP will be destroyed. They do represent a considerable portion of the USA population, as there are people that will never, never, under any circumstance, will vote Democrat. And there are no other "conservative" options.
So, no way the USA will have a 3 party system any time soon. It takes too much money to start anything like that.

But they could vote for a centrist party of folks like Cheney, Romney, Clinton, Manchin, Sinema (yes, Hilary is closer to a moderate Republican than a Democrat)

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 1:33 am But they could vote for a centrist party of folks like Cheney, Romney, Clinton, Manchin, Sinema (yes, Hilary is closer to a moderate Republican than a Democrat)

Clinton, and Biden are centre-right politicians but because the US political spectrum is skewed to the right they occasionally dip into left-wing policy issues because no one else is really appealing to those voters. What we would have known as classic Republicans are pretty much all gone now, and the current Republicans, even if they are want to moderate their views, have to skew far-right with their policies and rhetoric in order to win elections. We do see some examples of centre-right Republicans winning in strong Democratic states, but they can't win with the traditional Republican voters in national elections.

Are we going to drag Sen. Robert Menendez at some point?

dryrunguy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:01 pm Are we going to drag Sen. Robert Menendez at some point?

Start.
Sorry, I have missed the story. What did he do that would deserve dragging? The bar is now so low that...

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:54 pm Start.
Sorry, I have missed the story. What did he do that would deserve dragging? The bar is now so low that...

He's been indicted for accepting bribes, and gifts related to aid to Egypt. He should resign, and he should have resigned the first time he was indicted on these type of charges.

The pair each face three criminal counts: conspiracy to commit bribery, conspiracy to commit honest services fraud, and conspiracy to commit extortion under colour of official right.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66897845

Well, nothing to discuss then. Seems like he really has to move to another federal institution. Some federal penitentiary somewhere.

skatingfan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:32 pm

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 2:54 pm Start.
Sorry, I have missed the story. What did he do that would deserve dragging? The bar is now so low that...

He's been indicted for accepting bribes, and gifts related to aid to Egypt. He should resign, and he should have resigned the first time he was indicted on these type of charges.

The pair each face three criminal counts: conspiracy to commit bribery, conspiracy to commit honest services fraud, and conspiracy to commit extortion under colour of official right.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66897845

And that's the thing. He's been a crook ever since he was elected to the senate. Hell, that's probably how he got elected to the senate in the first place and how he has stayed in office.

Guardian is reporting he expects to be exonerated. Of course he does.

And for the record, I don't need an Achilles/Hector dragging. Just a sufficient dragging will do.

He should have the decency to resign and let someone who is not stashing gold bars take his place. As has been said he's been shady af for a long, long time.