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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:54 pm
by JazzNU
I didn't see it, but apparently there was a statement within the last 6 months made about spending more time with his family, so travel may definitely be why.

That being said. I don't see why he couldn't just stay on as his main coach, advising him afar and training when there in person, so not sure it's just that.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 12:23 am
by ponchi101
JazzNU wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 8:54 pm ...

That being said. I don't see why he couldn't just stay on as his main coach, advising him afar and training when there in person, so not sure it's just that.
Exactly. One really has to wonder who knows Novax' game better than Marian. And he has always been very agreeable to having more input. Becker and Goran come to mind.
Plus he seems very laid back and grounded. Qualities that may come handy every now and then.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:19 pm
by meganfernandez

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:26 pm
by ponchi101
Lendl is not a magician. Of course he will help, but it is not the game anymore. It is Andy's body. He can't play the same game.
But Lendl will help. He is a great coach.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:36 pm
by ti-amie
So Lindsay said last night on TC that Cahill and Anisimova are no longer working together.


Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:53 pm
by patrick
Wonder what made Cahill quit especially after a decent AO run by Anisimova?

The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 8:49 pm
by meganfernandez
patrick wrote:Wonder what made Cahill quit especially after a decent AO run by Anisimova?
Or who?

BTW, there is scuttlebutt in Twitter than Anisimova and Berrettini were hooking up, and not for coaching. No idea if it’s credible.


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Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:10 am
by ti-amie
A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.


Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:12 am
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:10 am A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.

In this unfortunate time of 'political correctness' (sigh), I'd figure there would be many objections to this kind of thing.

But the fact is that this is precisely why Halep appreciates Cahill so much.
Obviously, she both respects and accepts his methods And they have worked.
It's not about being worried to hurt someone - it's about caring about the person enough to hold them to a high standard and to do what it takes to get the best out of them.

The only negative element I see is that it seems she has become too dependent on him. She too often seems lost without him.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:33 pm
by ponchi101
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 5:10 am A reminder that Cahill isn't all sweetness and light with Simona.

I see a coach that is honest with his pupil and is not sugarcoating words, simply because in tennis the end result is a dichotomy. You don't get a B+ for effort; you win or lose.
I guess I am that way with my nephews, so, I am partial.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:41 pm
by ti-amie
Many young people Anisimova's age have never been spoken to like this.

Coach: Let's work on your slice
Player: BUT I HAVE TO BE AT RYAN/BRIANA FOR THEIR PARTY TONIGHT.
Coach: You need to do it...

Said to back of player as they head for their car.

Player loses next match.
"You're not helping meeeeee!!!" (whining)
Coach: #%&*

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:42 pm
by ti-amie
The talking to Darren gave Simona at Indian Wells made me want to call Tennis Warehouse and take the court. I've never been able to find it.

This is from Miami 2017 and is a bit less harsh.


Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:45 pm
by JTContinental
Cahill is an excellent coach, but also seems to be a bit unreliable and flaky

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 10:48 pm
by Deuce
ti-amie wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 6:41 pm Many young people Anisimova's age have never been spoken to like this.

Coach: Let's work on your slice
Player: BUT I HAVE TO BE AT RYAN/BRIANA FOR THEIR PARTY TONIGHT.
Coach: You need to do it...

Said to back of player as they head for their car.

Player loses next match.
"You're not helping meeeeee!!!" (whining)
Coach: #%&*
^ That's likely (and sadly) very true for most players that age.

Despite Leylah being in that age group, I know her dad/coach is quite hard on her - in a beneficial way. He doesn't berate her like Cahill did with Halep in the first few seconds in the first video clip above. But the rest of that Cahill - Halep clip is more like what Jorge does with Leylah.
He lays it out straight for Leylah - 'If you want this result, you have to do this'... Of course, their relationship is very different because it's also father/daughter.
He pushes her hard. It would seem harsh to most outside observers - but it's what Leylah wants.

They have a very healthy and absolutely wonderful relationship - it's a very tight bond - if any of you saw Leylah head straight to her dad, and the way they hugged each other, after her win in Monterrey last Sunday, you could see the strength of their bond. That was the first time Jorge has seen her win a tournament at the WTA level, and you could see that it meant a lot to both of them that he was there.

While other coaches know more technical stuff than Jorge, there is no question that no other coach would understand Leylah as well as he does. He knows what she needs, and when. She realizes that, and appreciates it. And, to me, that is more valuable than technical knowledge - especially at this level, where they all know how to hit a tennis ball quite efficiently.
Would Leylah have done better at the U.S. Open last year with a more traditional coach?
No way.

Re: The Tennis Coaching Merry Go Round

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2022 7:00 pm
by ti-amie