Talk About Tennis 2.0

It is possible for someone very powerful and aggressive to blast Halep off the court - see Zheng at RG, Sharapova at the USO, Serena at the Ao, even the famous defeat at the hands of Ostapenko.. so it is not out of the realm of possibility that Rybakina could do that to her.. in which case, Jabeur will be champion, because I dont think Jabeur can be blasted off the court by anyone.. too many ifs, but that is what makes this game interesting..

Cuckoo4Coco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:33 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:17 am

Cuckoo4Coco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:59 am

Yep, that is what Simona does and pretty much to perfection most of the time. No reason why she wouldn't continue to do just that against another aggressive player in Rybakina tomorrow who hits a lot of wins and makes a lot of unforced errors.

because she is older and has a history of not recovering well from tough matches..it just gets harder as you get older.

What about players like Rafa and Novak who are getting older and they have had these tough matches in the past and they almost always seem to bounce back and win? I get it that it takes longer for older players to recover from these longer/tougher matches , but these professional athletes are in top physical shape and prepare for this stuff day in and day out.

everyone is different, physically and mentally - Halep isnt as resilient as Novak and Rafa, I dont think.

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:57 am everyone is different, physically and mentally - Halep isnt as resilient as Novak and Rafa, I dont think.

Halep isn't on the same planet as Nadal and Djokovic when it comes to mental strength...
In fact, I'd say that Halep is one of the most psychologically fragile players of either gender. She almost completely blew the 2nd set vs. Anisimova yesterday as a direct result of that weakness.
She just gets nervous/unravelled too easily.

That said, Rybakina is still very inexperienced at this level in important matches. She also tightened up in the final set of her match yesterday.
It might be a rather ugly match if neither player can find a decent degree of mental strength.

Mentally tough and Physically tough are totally two different things. Sure being physically tough you lose some of that as you get older , but with mentally tough you can have that when you are a young player as well. I was just shown a video yesterday of a past player who had that it seemed a lot in Michael Chang. I never saw him play live, but from what I saw from the video at the age of 17 that he was he definitely was mentally tough. Players can definitely have that at a young age while some older players can be mentally fragile as can be.

Cuckoo4Coco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:33 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:17 am ...

because she is older and has a history of not recovering well from tough matches..it just gets harder as you get older.

What about players like Rafa and Novak who are getting older and they have had these tough matches in the past and they almost always seem to bounce back and win? I get it that it takes longer for older players to recover from these longer/tougher matches , but these professional athletes are in top physical shape and prepare for this stuff day in and day out.

Notice how they have stopped being so dominant (a relative term) at MS1000's, where they don't get the day off between matches. Recovery after certain age simply takes longer.
Simona will be fine, and Rybakina will be fine. One did not play that much, the other one is young.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:07 pm

Cuckoo4Coco wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:33 am

ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:17 am ...

because she is older and has a history of not recovering well from tough matches..it just gets harder as you get older.

What about players like Rafa and Novak who are getting older and they have had these tough matches in the past and they almost always seem to bounce back and win? I get it that it takes longer for older players to recover from these longer/tougher matches , but these professional athletes are in top physical shape and prepare for this stuff day in and day out.

Notice how they have stopped being so dominant (a relative term) at MS1000's, where they don't get the day off between matches. Recovery after certain age simply takes longer.
Simona will be fine, and Rybakina will be fine. One did not play that much, the other one is young.

These players are all in seriously good shape. Heck Serena and Venus who are in their 40's are in fantastic shape.

I am just a kid who plays tennis and trains 2 hours 6 times per week and these players are doing this for a living so they are training at a much more serious rate then I could even imagine. I hope when I am Simona's or Serena's or Venus William's age that I am in as good of shape as any of them.

Maria is trying to get this to a 3rd set.

Other than Sakkari, she has won all her matches like 6-4 or 7-5 in 3rd set.

patrick wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 1:40 pm Other than Sakkari, she has won all her matches like 6-4 or 7-5 in 3rd set.

Looks like Marie is gonna have to make a comeback in this 3rd set to take this one.

Not going to happen this time, but great for her to make this a serious contest.

Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:11 pm Not going to happen this time, but great for her to make this a serious contest.

I am glad this went a 3rd set.

Ons We Go

A good match from both, and OJ a class act after MP

Saturday is gonna be a fun match. My prediction is Elena over Ons in 3 thrilling sets.

It could also be a straight sets beatdown in either direction. Finals are rarely particularly good, especially between first time participants.