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Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:30 pm
by patrick
Disagree on Sabalenka as she does well outside Slams

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:46 pm
by Suliso
patrick wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:30 pm Disagree on Sabalenka as she does well outside Slams
Yes, but this game is all about winning Slams and going far in them.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:47 pm
by JazzNU
Sabalenka isn't wildly overranked by any stretch no matter what she does at Wimbledon and doesn't belong with that group. That's truly discounting her regular WTA Tour success.

If you're talking about the perception of her because of her inability to go deep in a slam, that's another story. But she's not overranked as that has never just been about performance at GS.

Interestingly enough, I don't remember anywhere near this kind of doubt thrown at Pliskova who couldn't do a damn thing at a Slam and still remained in everyone's like Top 3 to win every slam that came up that wasn't RG.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm
by ponchi101
But that was when she was coming up. In the last couple of years, we haven't talked much about her because she is also fading away.
Nobody has taken her in the SP. I wonder if it is for the same reason I am staying away: she can blow somebody off the court, or can be blown of the court by anybody.
I like her personality, but she is no longer in a conversation for Slam winner. Much less #1.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:17 pm
by Suliso
Note that when I say Sabalenka is over ranked I mean that appropriate would be in 6-10 range.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 4:48 pm
by JazzNU
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm But that was when she was coming up. In the last couple of years, we haven't talked much about her because she is also fading away.
Nobody has taken her in the SP. I wonder if it is for the same reason I am staying away: she can blow somebody off the court, or can be blown of the court by anybody.
I like her personality, but she is no longer in a conversation for Slam winner. Much less #1.
That's my point. Aryna isn't old, she's the same age as Naomi. At this point with Pliskova, hope was very high. Most people weren't posting at the start of a slam that her being considered one of the favorites was a joke and she's never gonna win the title the way that has happened multiple times with Sabalenka now.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:58 pm
by Suliso
Raducanu has improved her ranking already by 163 spots (#175 live) and could add another 40 if she beats Ajla Tomljanovic in R16. Doesn't sound impossible.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:22 am
by Suliso
Barty will be #1 regardless of further results. Sabalenka will be #2 if she reaches the final, #3 if she does not. Pliskova is back in the top 10 at #8 if she doesn't win any further matches. Spot in the finals would allow her to rise to #7 (past Iga) and the title would make her #4. Kerber currently #22, #18 as a finalist and #10 as a champion. Unless Kerber wins the title Muguruza goes back to the top 10. Simona Halep's loss of 2000 points will result in her slipping to #9.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 11:30 am
by Deuce
That's rather disappointing, as, with the crazy ranking system currently employed, I expected Andreescu to capture the #1 spot, given her 1st round exits at Wimbledon and Roland Garros...

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:20 pm
by the Moz
With all the rankings craziness, it's a good thing Ash Barty is the deserved no1 ATM.

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:52 pm
by ponchi101
WTA rankings = 🔥🔥🔥
ATP rankings = 🧊🧊🧊

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 1:56 pm
by ponchi101
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm (Talking about Pliskova)
I like her personality, but she is no longer in a conversation for Slam winner. Much less #1.
Suliso wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 3:17 pm Note that when I say Sabalenka is over ranked I mean that appropriate would be in 6-10 range.
Posts by Suliso and myself, a week ago, aging gracefully 🤦🤦

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:21 pm
by JTContinental
the Moz wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:20 pm With all the rankings craziness, it's a good thing Ash Barty is the deserved no1 ATM.
Osaka should be #1, IMO

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 1:01 am
by the Moz
JTContinental wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 5:21 pm
the Moz wrote: Wed Jul 07, 2021 12:20 pm With all the rankings craziness, it's a good thing Ash Barty is the deserved no1 ATM.
Osaka should be #1, IMO
Well at least both are deserved of the top 10, unlike others...

Re: ATP & WTA rankings

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 4:27 pm
by ponchi101
After this:
ponchi101 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 1:59 pm But that was when she was coming up. In the last couple of years, we haven't talked much about her because she is also fading away.
Nobody has taken her in the SP. I wonder if it is for the same reason I am staying away: she can blow somebody off the court, or can be blown of the court by anybody.
I like her personality, but she is no longer in a conversation for Slam winner. Much less #1.
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