Talk About Tennis 2.0

ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:51 pm From the Google:

What are green clay tennis courts made of?
A green clay (or Har-Tru) court actually plays more like a hard court than a red clay court. It's composed of crushed basalt, a natural green stone from Virginia, instead of red clay's brick, limestone and gravel.Apr 11, 2017

JazzNU wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:14 pm

ti-amie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:51 pm From the Google:

What are green clay tennis courts made of?
A green clay (or Har-Tru) court actually plays more like a hard court than a red clay court. It's composed of crushed basalt, a natural green stone from Virginia, instead of red clay's brick, limestone and gravel.Apr 11, 2017

I mean, this is from Wikipedia:

Green clay, also known by the brand names Rubico and Har-Tru, is similar to coarse red clay, but is made from crushed metabasalt rather than brick,[4] making the surface slightly harder and faster. Green clay is packed to make the subsurface. It is then covered with a topping.


You discount green clay results. I don't. I stand by what I said . Green clay court results are discounted when people want to do that, especially by TV commentators, and used when they want to reinforce a good clay court player's results. There's a lot of overlap between winners and runners up at Charleston and those performing very well at RG, so I don't personally get why this narrative powers on, but I'm not here to argue about it either.

dmforever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 pm ---

I agree with Jazz on this one. I played on clay courts in Italy and in Colombia. The Colombian clay courts I played on were vastly different from the Italian clay courts (sandier, not made from crushed brick, slipperier, a thinner coating of the crushed clay) and yet they are considered "real" clay courts. I don't know if the clay courts in South American pro tournaments are the same as the ones I played on in Colombia (which were at a fancy club that I couldn't afford, but that's another story ), but I'm guessing they are at least similar to those. The green clay can't be more different from the European red clay and the South American clay is from the European clay. It's all clay.

Kevin

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:05 pm

dmforever wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 pm ---

I agree with Jazz on this one. I played on clay courts in Italy and in Colombia. The Colombian clay courts I played on were vastly different from the Italian clay courts (sandier, not made from crushed brick, slipperier, a thinner coating of the crushed clay) and yet they are considered "real" clay courts. I don't know if the clay courts in South American pro tournaments are the same as the ones I played on in Colombia (which were at a fancy club that I couldn't afford, but that's another story ), but I'm guessing they are at least similar to those. The green clay can't be more different from the European red clay and the South American clay is from the European clay. It's all clay.

Kevin

The clay courts here in Colombia have a base layer of simple dirt/earth, to keep the prices down. I have even played in a place where the courts were really earth, compacted.
I doubt that we have courts here in Colombia that are like anything in Europe. The one court I played on in France was luxurious, in comparison.

ponchi101 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:05 pm I have even played in a place where the courts were really earth, compacted.