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There are moments when I wonder how much decorum, manners, common courtesies, and general civilities will I need to give up in order to survive in coming dictatorship with any kind of joy.
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Lots of stuff today on the incident in Butler, PA
This has not been refuted...
This has not been refuted...
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State Police are reporting that all of the Bullets fired at Former President Donald Trump appear to have Missed, and that the Injury on his Right Ear occurred as a result of Broken Glass from a Teleprompter which had Shattered on Stage. Trump was not shot. He was hit by glass.
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State Police are reporting that all of the Bullets fired at Former President Donald Trump appear to have Missed, and that the Injury on his Right Ear occurred as a result of Broken Glass from a Teleprompter which had Shattered on Stage. Trump was not shot. He was hit by glass.
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“By 3 p.m. on Saturday, roughly three hours before the shooting, Crooks was at the security screening area for the rally. He first aroused suspicion when he passed through the magnetometers carrying a rangefinder, which looks similar to a small pair of binoculars and is used by hunters and target shooters to measure distances when setting up a long-range shot, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.”
https://cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/tru ... index.html
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“By 3 p.m. on Saturday, roughly three hours before the shooting, Crooks was at the security screening area for the rally. He first aroused suspicion when he passed through the magnetometers carrying a rangefinder, which looks similar to a small pair of binoculars and is used by hunters and target shooters to measure distances when setting up a long-range shot, according to a senior law enforcement official briefed on the investigation.”
https://cnn.com/2024/07/16/politics/tru ... index.html
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SCOOOP on Saturday assassination attempt :![🚩](//cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@latest/assets/svg/1f6a9.svg)
Local police warned
@SecretService
they didn't have the manpower to position a patrol car and an officer to watch the outside of a key building facing the Trump rally stage on Saturday. That's where a gunman hoisted himself and later shot at the former president during the Pennsylvania event . me w
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https://wapo.st/3zGQegG
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SCOOOP on Saturday assassination attempt :
@SecretService
they didn't have the manpower to position a patrol car and an officer to watch the outside of a key building facing the Trump rally stage on Saturday. That's where a gunman hoisted himself and later shot at the former president during the Pennsylvania event . me w
@isaacstanbecker
@mariasacchetti
https://wapo.st/3zGQegG
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It doesn't appear he went to a hospital and no medical updates have been issued. He was also seen without any bandages on his ear while golfing on Sunday.
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Trump was taken to Butler Memorial Hospital, and the pictures of him golfing were from two years ago.
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Thanks for the update SkatingFan! Is there a link to that information?
This is what I found.
Trump has given no official info about his medical care for days since an assassination attempt
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BY NICHOLAS RICCARDI AND JILL COLVIN
Updated 8:08 PM EDT, July 17, 2024
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MILWAUKEE (AP) — Four days after a gunman’s attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally, the public is still in the dark over the extent of his injuries, what treatment the Republican presidential nominee received in the hospital, and whether there may be any long-term effects on his health.
Trump’s campaign has refused to discuss his condition, release a medical report or records, or make the doctors who treated him available, leaving information to dribble out from Trump, his friends and family.
The first word on Trump’s condition came about half an hour after shots rang out and Trump dropped to the ground after reaching for his ear and then pumped his fist defiantly to the crowd with blood streaming down his face. The campaign issued a statement saying he was “fine” and “being checked out at a local medical facility.”
“More details will follow,” his spokesperson said.
It wasn’t until 8:42 p.m., however, that Trump told the public he had been struck by a bullet as opposed to shrapnel or debris. In a post on his social media network, Trump wrote that he was “shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part” of his right ear.
“I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,” he wrote.
Presidents and major-party candidates have long had to balance their right to doctor-patient confidentiality with the public’s expectations that they demonstrate they are healthy enough to serve, particularly when questions arise about their readiness. Trump, for example, has long pressed President Joe Biden to take a cognitive test as the Democrat faces doubts after his stumbling performance in last month’s debate.
After a would-be assassin shot and gravely wounded President Ronald Reagan in 1981, the Washington, D.C., hospital where he was treated gave regular, detailed public updates about his condition and treatment.
Trump has appeared at the Republican National Convention the past three days with a bandage over his right ear. But there has been no further word since Saturday from Trump’s campaign or other officials on his condition or treatment.
Instead, it has been allies and family members sharing news.
Rep. Ronny Jackson, R-Texas, who served as Trump’s White House doctor and traveled to be with him after the shooting, said in a podcast interview Monday that Trump was missing part of his ear — “a little bit at the top” — but that the wound would heal.
“He was lucky,” Jackson said on “The Benny Show,” a conservative podcast hosted by Benny Johnson. ”It was far enough away from his head that there was no concussive effects from the bullet. And it just took the top of his ear off, a little bit of the top of this ear off as it passed through.”
He said that the area would need to be treated with care to avoid further bleeding — “It’s not like a clean laceration like you would have with a knife or a blade, it’s a bullet track going by,” he said — but that Trump is “not going to need anything to be done with it. It’s going to be fine.”
The former president’s son Eric Trump said in an interview with CBS on Wednesday that his father had had “no stitches but certainly a nice flesh wound.”
The lack of information continues a pattern for Trump, who has released minimal medical information throughout his political career.
When he first ran in 2016, Trump declined to release full medical records, and instead released a note from his doctor that declared Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.”
Dr. Harold Bornstein later revealed that the glowing, four-paragraph assessment was written in 5 minutes as a car sent by Trump to collect it waited outside.
Jackson, after administering a physical to Trump in 2018, drew headlines for extolling the then-president’s “incredibly good genes” and suggesting that “if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years he might live to be 200 years old.”
When Trump was infected with the coronavirus in the midst of his 2020 re-election campaign, his doctors and aides tried to downplay the severity of his condition and withheld information about how sick he was and key details of his treatment.
Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows wrote in his book that Trump’s blood oxygen dropped to a “dangerously low level” and that there were concerns that Trump would not be able to walk on his own if he had waited longer to be transported to Walter Reed for treatment.
JILL COLVIN
Colvin is an Associated Press national political reporter covering the 2024 presidential campaign. She is based in New York.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-shooti ... b5f1573977
This is what I found.
Trump has given no official info about his medical care for days since an assassination attempt
BY NICHOLAS RICCARDI AND JILL COLVIN
Updated 8:08 PM EDT, July 17, 2024
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MILWAUKEE (AP) — Four days after a gunman’s attempt to assassinate former President Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally, the public is still in the dark over the extent of his injuries, what treatment the Republican presidential nominee received in the hospital, and whether there may be any long-term effects on his health.
Trump’s campaign has refused to discuss his condition, release a medical report or records, or make the doctors who treated him available, leaving information to dribble out from Trump, his friends and family.
The first word on Trump’s condition came about half an hour after shots rang out and Trump dropped to the ground after reaching for his ear and then pumped his fist defiantly to the crowd with blood streaming down his face. The campaign issued a statement saying he was “fine” and “being checked out at a local medical facility.”
“More details will follow,” his spokesperson said.
It wasn’t until 8:42 p.m., however, that Trump told the public he had been struck by a bullet as opposed to shrapnel or debris. In a post on his social media network, Trump wrote that he was “shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part” of his right ear.
“I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin,” he wrote.
Presidents and major-party candidates have long had to balance their right to doctor-patient confidentiality with the public’s expectations that they demonstrate they are healthy enough to serve, particularly when questions arise about their readiness. Trump, for example, has long pressed President Joe Biden to take a cognitive test as the Democrat faces doubts after his stumbling performance in last month’s debate.
After a would-be assassin shot and gravely wounded President Ronald Reagan in 1981, the Washington, D.C., hospital where he was treated gave regular, detailed public updates about his condition and treatment.
Trump has appeared at the Republican National Convention the past three days with a bandage over his right ear. But there has been no further word since Saturday from Trump’s campaign or other officials on his condition or treatment.
Instead, it has been allies and family members sharing news.
Rep. Ronny Jackson, R-Texas, who served as Trump’s White House doctor and traveled to be with him after the shooting, said in a podcast interview Monday that Trump was missing part of his ear — “a little bit at the top” — but that the wound would heal.
“He was lucky,” Jackson said on “The Benny Show,” a conservative podcast hosted by Benny Johnson. ”It was far enough away from his head that there was no concussive effects from the bullet. And it just took the top of his ear off, a little bit of the top of this ear off as it passed through.”
He said that the area would need to be treated with care to avoid further bleeding — “It’s not like a clean laceration like you would have with a knife or a blade, it’s a bullet track going by,” he said — but that Trump is “not going to need anything to be done with it. It’s going to be fine.”
The former president’s son Eric Trump said in an interview with CBS on Wednesday that his father had had “no stitches but certainly a nice flesh wound.”
The lack of information continues a pattern for Trump, who has released minimal medical information throughout his political career.
When he first ran in 2016, Trump declined to release full medical records, and instead released a note from his doctor that declared Trump would be “the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency.”
Dr. Harold Bornstein later revealed that the glowing, four-paragraph assessment was written in 5 minutes as a car sent by Trump to collect it waited outside.
Jackson, after administering a physical to Trump in 2018, drew headlines for extolling the then-president’s “incredibly good genes” and suggesting that “if he had a healthier diet over the last 20 years he might live to be 200 years old.”
When Trump was infected with the coronavirus in the midst of his 2020 re-election campaign, his doctors and aides tried to downplay the severity of his condition and withheld information about how sick he was and key details of his treatment.
Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows wrote in his book that Trump’s blood oxygen dropped to a “dangerously low level” and that there were concerns that Trump would not be able to walk on his own if he had waited longer to be transported to Walter Reed for treatment.
JILL COLVIN
Colvin is an Associated Press national political reporter covering the 2024 presidential campaign. She is based in New York.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-shooti ... b5f1573977
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A little?
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Okay but they're citing Laura Loomer?Political journalist Laura Loomer was one of these voices. “Not sure why so many people are posting posts saying President Trump played golf today, but I can 100% confirm he didn’t play golf today,” she posted on X. “Anyone saying that he did is pushing misinformation. Donald Trump flew to Milwaukee today from New Jersey, and it was raining in New Jersey. The videos of him on the golf course are old.”
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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/17 ... estigation
From The NY Times:
Former President Donald J. Trump had just been shot at a rally only about 10 miles from the hospital, her chief medical officer informed her. He might be headed to Butler Memorial.
She <the president of Butler Memorial Hospital> jumped in her car and drove to the hospital, where a lockdown that would last three hours was already in place. Mr. Trump was indeed inside, and nobody — not even the hospital president — could go in or out.
Ms. Allen said she saw what she would estimate to be 40 or 50 law enforcement officers, including Secret Service agents, F.B.I. agents, Homeland Security agents and local and state police. Black SUVs dotted the parking lot.
“I had never seen anything like that at our hospital,” Ms. Allen said.
The hospital, which has 294 beds, was preparing for a shift change when Mr. Trump arrived, so the medical staff already inside stayed late to treat him while others treated newly arriving patients in the parking lot. The hospital was placed on diversion, meaning ambulances were barred from arriving, but patients could walk or be driven to the hospital, and security could arrange for medical equipment to be passed outside.
Dr. Dave Rottinghaus, an emergency room doctor at Butler Memorial, was one of the doctors treating people in the parking lot and said it was lucky that none of those patients had particularly serious conditions. The two people who were seriously wounded at the rally were taken to a different hospital, Allegheny General in Pittsburgh.
From The NY Times:
Former President Donald J. Trump had just been shot at a rally only about 10 miles from the hospital, her chief medical officer informed her. He might be headed to Butler Memorial.
She <the president of Butler Memorial Hospital> jumped in her car and drove to the hospital, where a lockdown that would last three hours was already in place. Mr. Trump was indeed inside, and nobody — not even the hospital president — could go in or out.
Ms. Allen said she saw what she would estimate to be 40 or 50 law enforcement officers, including Secret Service agents, F.B.I. agents, Homeland Security agents and local and state police. Black SUVs dotted the parking lot.
“I had never seen anything like that at our hospital,” Ms. Allen said.
The hospital, which has 294 beds, was preparing for a shift change when Mr. Trump arrived, so the medical staff already inside stayed late to treat him while others treated newly arriving patients in the parking lot. The hospital was placed on diversion, meaning ambulances were barred from arriving, but patients could walk or be driven to the hospital, and security could arrange for medical equipment to be passed outside.
Dr. Dave Rottinghaus, an emergency room doctor at Butler Memorial, was one of the doctors treating people in the parking lot and said it was lucky that none of those patients had particularly serious conditions. The two people who were seriously wounded at the rally were taken to a different hospital, Allegheny General in Pittsburgh.
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I know, but in this case I think it's a valid point.ti-amie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:22 amOkay but they're citing Laura Loomer?Political journalist Laura Loomer was one of these voices. “Not sure why so many people are posting posts saying President Trump played golf today, but I can 100% confirm he didn’t play golf today,” she posted on X. “Anyone saying that he did is pushing misinformation. Donald Trump flew to Milwaukee today from New Jersey, and it was raining in New Jersey. The videos of him on the golf course are old.”
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