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I simply think that the WTA is entering an era where parity will reign. It's not going to be another 15 years of Serena-like - or even Navratilova/Evert-like - domination.Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:40 am You guys are super conservative as far as potential of players is concerned. Everyone, but 2-3 players is max top 20 potential or on the way down. If so who do you think will win a lion's share of Slams in the next 5-7 years? Do you expect Swiatek and Osaka to win ca 10 Slams each then? Or maybe 15 almost random one Slam wonders?
Let us keep some perspective here..a couple of surprises in 20 years is ok..it is just that some people here are talking as if it is totally random..it isn't.Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:36 am What do you mean with "anyone"? Thomas Johansson and Flavia Penetta were as close to anyone as you could possibly be. Of course still top 20 before, but no one was taking them seriously as potential Slam winners.
Of course not every year surprises happen. Clearly not this year so far.
Most examples have the benefit of hindsight, too. When Myskina, Sharapova, and Kuznetsova won Slams in 2004, it seemed random at the time, but turns out, two of them were legit champions. I'm guessing Myskina was, too, but maybe she was derailed with injuries? We just don't know about a lot of the current players. We only have impressions and guesses. Which is fun for some people its own kind of sport. But it's hard to use history as a gauge for that reason.ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:39 amLet us keep some perspective here..a couple of surprises in 20 years is ok..it is just that some people here are talking as if it is totally random..it isn't.Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:36 am What do you mean with "anyone"? Thomas Johansson and Flavia Penetta were as close to anyone as you could possibly be. Of course still top 20 before, but no one was taking them seriously as potential Slam winners.
Of course not every year surprises happen. Clearly not this year so far.
It could have been. We could have been in an Osaka-Iga era, but alas. I think Leylah and Coco have the appetite and heart for it. Those two and Iga are still very young. Just not sure if Leylah is physically strong enough to have Top 2 or 3 results week in and week out. Do you think she is? Can she be overpowered?Deuce wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:43 amI simply think that the WTA is entering an era where parity will reign. It's not going to be another 15 years of Serena-like - or even Navratilova/Evert-like - domination.Suliso wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:40 am You guys are super conservative as far as potential of players is concerned. Everyone, but 2-3 players is max top 20 potential or on the way down. If so who do you think will win a lion's share of Slams in the next 5-7 years? Do you expect Swiatek and Osaka to win ca 10 Slams each then? Or maybe 15 almost random one Slam wonders?
Therefore, the winners of Majors will be more evenly spread out with the current generation.
Healthy and engaged... Osaka has been mostly healthy, as far as we know, but (apparently) has not dedicated herself full-time, enough to play at her top level week in and week out. Not giving the full effort - said with zero judgment, just a neutral observation. Leylah beat Osaka last year at the Open, for instance. That shouldn't happen if Osaka is in full flight.ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:36 pm Ok here is a hold prediction: of the next 12 majors, Osaka and Swiatek will win at least 5 between them. I don't see the others challenging them if they are healthy.
Of course we won't know positively till 2025 but if it is not happening, we will know by the end of 2023. I will keep track, assuming I am still around by then!
Her story reminds me of what the Williams Sisters did when they reach the top. The media questioned their commitment to tennis as they were doing off court activities.meganfernandez wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:46 pmHealthy and engaged... Osaka has been mostly healthy, as far as we know, but (apparently) has not dedicated herself full-time, enough to play at her top level week in and week out. Not giving the full effort - said with zero judgment, just a neutral observation. Leylah beat Osaka last year at the Open, for instance. That shouldn't happen if Osaka is in full flight.ashkor87 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:36 pm Ok here is a hold prediction: of the next 12 majors, Osaka and Swiatek will win at least 5 between them. I don't see the others challenging them if they are healthy.
Of course we won't know positively till 2025 but if it is not happening, we will know by the end of 2023. I will keep track, assuming I am still around by then!
Anyway! We'll see. If they win 5 Slams together, I think 4 of them are Iga's. Hope I'm wrong! Trajectories can always change and maybe Osaka takes her rightful place at the top of the rankings again.
