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Peter W. Singer
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Army Sec Ryan McCarthy: we weren't ready as "[we] had no wildest imagination that you could end up breaching the Capitol Grounds."
As both a nat sec specialist and an expect in imagining, let me call 100% BS on this.
-The threat of violence at the event was repeatedly warned about that very week,
-The intel chatter of the Capitol in specific was out in the open all the way down to them talking about specific access points,
-The scenario had happened at multiple other national parliaments and several state legislatures in the US,
And, if you want to play "imagining," the scenario itself of an attack on the Capitol building features in countless books/movies. But, most importantly, is a key scene in a bible of right wing extremist literature ("Turner Diaries," the book which also motivated Timothy McVeigh)
Maybe what he and others just couldn't do is put the pieces together to imagine it happening to him or, even more so, it being done by his political "tribe."
This was no 9-11 style "failure of imagination" and do not let anyone get away with that crap.
From the specific event itself to the overall forces that enabled it, this was a failure of leadership and morals.
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Army Sec Ryan McCarthy: we weren't ready as "[we] had no wildest imagination that you could end up breaching the Capitol Grounds."
As both a nat sec specialist and an expect in imagining, let me call 100% BS on this.
-The threat of violence at the event was repeatedly warned about that very week,
-The intel chatter of the Capitol in specific was out in the open all the way down to them talking about specific access points,
-The scenario had happened at multiple other national parliaments and several state legislatures in the US,
And, if you want to play "imagining," the scenario itself of an attack on the Capitol building features in countless books/movies. But, most importantly, is a key scene in a bible of right wing extremist literature ("Turner Diaries," the book which also motivated Timothy McVeigh)
Maybe what he and others just couldn't do is put the pieces together to imagine it happening to him or, even more so, it being done by his political "tribe."
This was no 9-11 style "failure of imagination" and do not let anyone get away with that crap.
From the specific event itself to the overall forces that enabled it, this was a failure of leadership and morals.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
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Didn't we see this movie already?Kyle Griffin
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Breaking on @MSNBC Hope Hicks is planning to leave the Trump admin next week — ahead of the inauguration.
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“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
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I haven't seen a video to post that captures the breakdown from Governor Larry Hogan about sending in the Maryland National Guard. I'll post when I find a good enough one. But I suspect that will start making the rounds more tonight. It was missed mostly yesterday and started circulating more widely last night after Maddow did a larger piece on it.
The more information comes out, the worse it is. I'm not taking any stock in the "not enough cabinet members" and "not enough Republicans" to proceed right now. We'll see where we stand at the beginning of next week because acting like Wednesday was okay and not taking action is not something any Republican in anything even close to approaching a purple district will be able to withstand. People are getting angrier about what happened, not more forgiving.
The more information comes out, the worse it is. I'm not taking any stock in the "not enough cabinet members" and "not enough Republicans" to proceed right now. We'll see where we stand at the beginning of next week because acting like Wednesday was okay and not taking action is not something any Republican in anything even close to approaching a purple district will be able to withstand. People are getting angrier about what happened, not more forgiving.
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"Looks at me, everyone! MEEEEE! I'm a normal Republican, the last four years were just in your imagination! Look out for me on the campaign trail starting around 2023!"
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I watched it on MSNBC last night. The fact that the National Guard was blocked from helping, both in advance and during the event, is at the heart of this scandal and proves a very terrifying intent. This critical piece of the puzzle hasn't been explored enough by MSM. I hope it gets more coverage.JazzNU wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:28 pm I haven't seen a video to post that captures the breakdown from Governor Larry Hogan about sending in the Maryland National Guard. I'll post when I find a good enough one. But I suspect that will start making the rounds more tonight. It was missed mostly yesterday and started circulating more widely last night after Maddow did a larger piece on it.
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Never fear. Gay Twitter is, uh, handling this? All over this? On the case?
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Exactly. HTF are you going to object to electors, of another state mind you, and then claim you give a ish about a peaceful transfer of power? Go away Rick Scott, no one will miss you.
And Florida. Jesus. Can you start making better decisions? I'll take just one at this point. Because why do your statewide election winners always suck so supremely?!!
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JazzNU wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:28 pm I haven't seen a video to post that captures the breakdown from Governor Larry Hogan about sending in the Maryland National Guard. I'll post when I find a good enough one. But I suspect that will start making the rounds more tonight. It was missed mostly yesterday and started circulating more widely last night after Maddow did a larger piece on it.
Found a video, but sorry, can't post it here and not as straightforward as it should be.
Go to Maddow's videos at MSNBC at the link below. If you visit before tonight's show, click the second video in the list for the story on the Larry Hogan sending in the Maryland National Guard.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
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They are looking too deeply into this. This guy was simply auditioning for a Jamiroquai video.
And got rejected.
And got rejected.
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The bad takes on “who the Trump rioters are” ignore the fact that most poor and working class people can’t even afford to take off work when their kids are sick, let alone load up on Trump merch and body armor, travel across the country, and spend all day playing fascist putsch
It costs a lot of money to fund this fascist bulls**t. Don’t lay the blame solely on the lazy avatar of the “blue collar Trump voter.” There were lawyers and CEOs and a judge’s son leading the charge. One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capitol!
If you’re going to spout this kind of toxic, uninformed rhetoric, just say you think the working classes is bad and rich people are good and go.
The bad takes on “who the Trump rioters are” ignore the fact that most poor and working class people can’t even afford to take off work when their kids are sick, let alone load up on Trump merch and body armor, travel across the country, and spend all day playing fascist putsch
It costs a lot of money to fund this fascist bulls**t. Don’t lay the blame solely on the lazy avatar of the “blue collar Trump voter.” There were lawyers and CEOs and a judge’s son leading the charge. One of them took her private jet out to storm the Capitol!
If you’re going to spout this kind of toxic, uninformed rhetoric, just say you think the working classes is bad and rich people are good and go.
“Do not grow old, no matter how long you live. Never cease to stand like curious children before the Great Mystery into which we were born.” Albert Einstein
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